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Liuni Kalthis
Scope Works
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:22:00 -
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Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
161
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:27:00 -
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Or... here me out... or...
A T2-fit frigate. (4 days of training)
(T2-fit not an AF/Interceptor)
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Liuni Kalthis
Scope Works
44
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:28:00 -
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Exactly the only thing this really changed (WIth exceptions to the farmer's woes) its to force you to buy bigger ships or abandon the novices. Navy faction frigates in those were bad enough, but at least you had a chance. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
211
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:28:00 -
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or a T1 frigate. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2259
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:38:00 -
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inb4 worm. |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
729
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Posted - 2014.06.05 20:22:00 -
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Liuni Kalthis wrote:Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP
or boost High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
173
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Posted - 2014.06.05 20:32:00 -
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its called a destroyer |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
475
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Posted - 2014.06.05 21:28:00 -
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These post-Kronos threads are providing truly frightening insight of the farmers' brains... and it's shocking!
Just 3 days ago, I honestly had no clue I was sharing lowsec with people that think a pirate frig is the only viable way to kill a npc frig.
*shivers* |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
388
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Posted - 2014.06.05 21:38:00 -
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Skills yo. Train them you must. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
403
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Posted - 2014.06.05 22:25:00 -
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farmer tears so gud they made their own thread |
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
1601
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Posted - 2014.06.06 00:11:00 -
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Well I guess it really is time to buy that Worm so you can get the dps of blasters with the alpha damage of lml or arty with the drones. You also get great range projection while being immune to TD and neuts. Oh, and that tank especially if you go MASB with HG Crystals + Blue Pill + Siege Links.
I guess it's time to sell my DD and Dram for solo pvp in FW. RIP T1 frigs. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
188
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Posted - 2014.06.06 00:19:00 -
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WTB t1 frig firesale since they are not good pvp ships at all. Yup not good at pvp at all nope FW is dominated by t2 and faction/pirate frigs and you won't see a t1 frig ever nope. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2179
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:07:00 -
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Can you plz tell me how to win game?
I don't understand
I lock target, i press f1 yet i don't win game
how you win game? BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Circle-Of-Two
1199
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:34:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Can you plz tell me how to win game?
I don't understand
I lock target, i press f1 yet i don't win game
how you win game?
I am having the same problem.
I'm gonna start moving my guns to the F2 position and pressing F2 to see if that helps.
Docked since 2009. |
Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
158
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Posted - 2014.06.06 04:46:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Can you plz tell me how to win game?
I don't understand
I lock target, i press f1 yet i don't win game
how you win game? I am having the same problem. I'm gonna start moving my guns to the F2 position and pressing F2 to see if that helps.
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Valatie
Blue Sun Privateers
19
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Posted - 2014.06.06 06:10:00 -
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I've roamed the length and breadth of the Amarr-Minmatar front. Pirate faction frigates are no more plentiful than before, they're just not all daredevils and dramiels now. More diversity of strong pirate ships without increasing their total number relative to the t1 and navy ships already used? Sign me up.
On a personal note, I've tried the Succubus and Worm, while getting a killmail on a Cruor. Each is strong, but I probably won't be flying pirate frigs any more than I used to when I hunt. While I haven't messed with the Mordu's frig, I get the impression it's basically a bling condor and the prospect doesn't worry me in the slightest. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
784
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:05:00 -
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daredevil and dramiel are alsmost same than before, only worm and succubus got some nice boosts that make those more valid as pvp ships, it takes a while after people know how to counter those properly and that is why those may be popular for some time. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
218
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:53:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Well I guess it really is time to buy that Worm so you can get the dps of blasters with the alpha damage of lml or arty with the drones. You also get great range projection while being immune to TD and neuts. Oh, and that tank especially if you go MASB with HG Crystals + Blue Pill + Siege Links.
I guess it's time to sell my DD and Dram for solo pvp in FW. RIP T1 frigs.
You know what I do with worms? Exactly the same as I do with harpies and hawks: I totally ignore them. They are sooooo slooooooow! All that worms, harpies and hawks are able to fight are other worms, harpies and hawks OR a blob :) Everything else just runs away.
I can live with that. |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
479
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:27:00 -
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I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.
Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.
Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.< |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
1485
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:44:00 -
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Truly, I am amazed that there's not more threads about "waah rats respawn" and it's apparently "omg, people are trying out their new toys and my farm allt is dying ublublublub". Focus, farmers! You need to cry more about your ISK/hr than the fact you can't PVP. We all know you're lying about PVping. J's before K's. ::brofist:: http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1130
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:57:00 -
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Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.
Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.
Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.< You probably can't remember the last time you got a solo kill either. Different playstyles use different tools - you should know that.
And yes, the relative lack of complaining is very disappointing. I think it is a clear indication that CCP didn't nerf farming enough. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
269
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:41:00 -
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Not to derail the complaints or trolls (here I go anyways); Has there been any analysis of the relative isk/hr before and after the change to farming? I saw a work up for the VP delta so far, but would love to see some data on "ideal conditions" farming now vs last week. |
Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
146
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:54:00 -
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Liuni Kalthis wrote:Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP You are bashing I-hubs in frigates while solo?
Or instead of winning fw did you mean completing a plex?
Train more than 16 hours worth of skills and you'll be fine. It is not hard. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
512
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Posted - 2014.06.07 12:22:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Not to derail the complaints or trolls (here I go anyways); Has there been any analysis of the relative isk/hr before and after the change to farming? I saw a work up for the VP delta so far, but would love to see some data on "ideal conditions" farming now vs last week. I do not have any statistical data.
But I would bet that ISK/LP increase from the 20-30% VP decrease we are seeing will more than compensate the few seconds of extra time needed to deal with npc spawns in a ship with some dps.
In other words, farmers that will put a bit more effort will get slightly less LP/hr but more ISK/hr, imo. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2189
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Posted - 2014.06.08 11:27:00 -
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Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.
Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.
Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.<
Wooow..
Ok please tell me.. I have to know..
How can i be as cool as you? BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
482
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:07:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.
Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.
Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.< Wooow.. Ok please tell me.. I have to know.. How can i be as cool as you?
We could spoon if you like :) |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1744
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:44:00 -
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Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.
Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.
Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.< Wooow.. Ok please tell me.. I have to know.. How can i be as cool as you? We could spoon if you like :)
I'm Too Sexy for T1 Frigates.... |
Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
156
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Posted - 2014.06.09 13:09:00 -
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Zappity wrote: And yes, the relative lack of complaining is very disappointing. I think it is a clear indication that CCP didn't nerf farming enough.
Sooooo true.
They apparently didn't like my suggestion of making ships fit with stabs simply explode if they entered a plex. |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
140
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Posted - 2014.06.10 07:44:00 -
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Liuni Kalthis wrote:Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP
l2p
Fed Navy Comet. Slicer Hookbill Tristan
On a side note. Yes I know everybody and their moms flying worms nowadays after the buff.
Plus you can pick fights in FW and even kinda "filter" with the different sites.
edit : you dont need fancy azz **** for FW.
Most of the people flying that kinda stuff got pimped out clones and off grid boosts so even if you spend the money on that kinda ship you still wont cut it.
Just be smart and pick your fights instead of trying to play the "I WIN CARD".
Or simply fly in fleets and blob them. Have a nice expensive KM. http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
165
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:31:00 -
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Can confirm I get more ISK/hr now than I did before.
Sellin' stuff at 5k:1 ratios. nbd. |
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