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0rch1d
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.05 19:49:00 -
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I'm thinking of picking one up to fool around with.
What's everyone using it for? |
Rin Valador
Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces
82
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Posted - 2014.06.05 20:13:00 -
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0rch1d wrote:
What's everyone using it for?
Fancy ship spinning and buyers regret.
But when it comes to my corp a fight killer. for some reason no one wants to take on 10 of these jumping through a hole. You would think t3 elitists would jump at the chance to kill them. "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
0rch1d
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.05 20:28:00 -
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Rin Valador wrote:0rch1d wrote:
What's everyone using it for?
Fancy ship spinning and buyers regret. But when it comes to my corp a fight killer. for some reason no one wants to take on 10 of these jumping through a hole. You would think t3 elitists would jump at the chance to kill them.
Interesting. I'm not sure whether this justifies the price tag, but it seems to sweeten the deal.
I'm getting the impression that a minor (?) decrease in tanking ability has been compensated for by significant gains in speed and ranged damage-dealing. Which really just parrots the marketing push behind it, but it's not making it less attractive. It sounds like it might be a lot of fun to fly. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
255
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Posted - 2014.06.05 20:58:00 -
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It's just a Drake with better application. You don't have to worry about getting outmaneuvered as much because your HAMs will hit out to point range and hit harder against smaller targets, but it's still really slow with unimpressive DPS. Being a Drake +1/2 isn't nearly enough to make up for how unimpressive Drakes are, especially for the price.
Added bonus: you get two extra launchers, but only enough extra fitting for one of them. |
0rch1d
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
4
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Posted - 2014.06.05 21:26:00 -
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Powergrid issues? |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Cruis3r's Cr3w Inc. Constructive. Criticism.
110
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Posted - 2014.06.05 23:15:00 -
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i havent flown the navy drake but what ive seen on her is u lose the resistence boni but have a T2 LSE already integrated in the hull. I dont know what u plan but with good skills u get ham ranges which the normal one can barely beat with heavy missiles and rly good application bonus. Missile damage isnt limited to scourge either as with the normal one. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
907
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Posted - 2014.06.06 00:44:00 -
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IIRC It's basically the old Drake without the tank. Do people actually fly these in PVP? |
Paranoid Loyd
594
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Posted - 2014.06.06 00:48:00 -
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IIshira wrote:IIRC It's basically the old Drake without the tank. Do people actually fly these in PVP?
5% Rainbow damage instead of 10% kinetic. 10% Missile Velocity bonus instead of 4% Resistance "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
907
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Posted - 2014.06.06 01:11:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:IIshira wrote:IIRC It's basically the old Drake without the tank. Do people actually fly these in PVP? 5% Rainbow damage instead of 10% kinetic. 10% Missile Velocity bonus instead of 4% Resistance So less kinetic damage but more damage with other types.
The velocity bonus is only to give the Navy Drake the same range as the old pre HM nerf Drake so it's not really an added bonus.
The old Drake used to be able to solo level 4 missions without perfect skills and you didn't have to worry too much about aggro. You might be able to do the same with the Navy Drake but with the paper thin tank you would have to be careful.
For PVP I just don't see the point. Maybe some specific fleet doctrine but not for small gang PVP |
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
331
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Posted - 2014.06.06 01:40:00 -
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Drake is 6 launchers + 50% kin damage. N.drake is 8 launchers + 0% damage.
N.drake gets explosion velocity and missile velocity bonuses. N.drake does 33.33% more damage with EM,EXP,THERM and ~11% less damage when using KIN than the vanilla drake. That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money.... |
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
258
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Posted - 2014.06.06 01:47:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:IIshira wrote:IIRC It's basically the old Drake without the tank. Do people actually fly these in PVP? 5% Rainbow damage instead of 10% kinetic. 10% Missile Velocity bonus instead of 4% Resistance Some are using them
It's not damage, it's explosion velocity.
The Navy Drake does less raw damage than a normal Drake, but isn't pinned to Kinetic and will probably do more damage in practice since it has another 50% range and better application.
However "puts out a bit more damage in practice" is not exactly a glowing endorsement for something that expensive. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1149
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:17:00 -
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10/10, bravo. Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |
Paranoid Loyd
595
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:22:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:It's not damage, it's explosion velocity.
I stand corrected. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2090
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Posted - 2014.06.06 05:33:00 -
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I know it's trollish, but I saw the topic and just had to add: with lots of tongue. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
816
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Posted - 2014.06.06 15:42:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:I know it's trollish, but I saw the topic and just had to add: with lots of tongue.
My first thought exactly! I like to tilt its chin to the side just a bit. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2007
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Posted - 2014.06.06 15:50:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:I know it's trollish, but I saw the topic and just had to add: with lots of tongue. remorseful troll is remorseful.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1941
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Posted - 2014.06.06 16:48:00 -
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I prefer Navy boats over normals, but meh... it's a Drake. (The original Drake) "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1739
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Posted - 2014.06.06 16:56:00 -
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I can design a Heavy Missile navy Drake that hits for full effect as long as a MWDing cruiser is traveling slower then 6100m/s. 2155 Alphas out to 99km every six seconds. Medium micro jump fit with 70k EHP. I've put it together. I'm a bit nervous about undocking it |
Rayzilla Zaraki
Tandokuno
226
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:19:00 -
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I got to second base with it. Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues. |
Leila Kobra
Commando 9
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Posted - 2014.06.07 18:09:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:IIshira wrote:IIRC It's basically the old Drake without the tank. Do people actually fly these in PVP? 5% Rainbow damage instead of 10% kinetic. 10% Missile Velocity bonus instead of 4% Resistance Some are using them It's not damage, it's explosion velocity.
Its neither, its explosion radius.
On the other hand, pay an extra 50mil and get the much much better Nighthawk. |
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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
311
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Posted - 2014.06.07 20:42:00 -
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Fancy L3 security mission runner for newer players.
If you make good isk and can get one while finishing up L2 missions for your first NPC corporation go for it.
Older players opening up new groups have better options. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
914
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Posted - 2014.06.08 02:04:00 -
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Leila Kobra wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:IIshira wrote:IIRC It's basically the old Drake without the tank. Do people actually fly these in PVP? 5% Rainbow damage instead of 10% kinetic. 10% Missile Velocity bonus instead of 4% Resistance Some are using them It's not damage, it's explosion velocity. Its neither, its explosion radius. On the other hand, pay an extra 50mil and get the much much better Nighthawk. Too bad the Nighthawk doesn't get a missile velocity bonus. It was okay before the HM nerf but there's better options out there that require a lot less training.
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0rch1d
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
6
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Posted - 2014.06.08 22:20:00 -
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Late reply, I know, but I've been reading intently. I appreciate the input.
I might just collect all three Drake hulls and call it a day: the Drake I've got mothballed somewhere, the Navy, and the Nighthawk. Collect *all* the Draeks! |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
21
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Posted - 2014.06.08 22:26:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:I can design a Heavy Missile navy Drake that hits for full effect as long as a MWDing cruiser is traveling slower then 6100m/s. 2155 Alphas out to 99km every six seconds. Medium micro jump fit with 70k EHP. I've put it together. I'm a bit nervous about undocking it
so basically that a Max skilled, Overheated, Linked, High grade implanted Complex/Officer Fit cynabal that can escape it |
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