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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.09.18 21:11:00 -
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Updated Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Odin Skydiver
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2014.09.18 21:18:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Updated
I really like the name! But normal 800 cap boosters are just fine and they fit if you fit 5 expanded cargoholds in low slots. |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
1649
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Posted - 2014.10.02 14:51:00 -
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There needs to be talk of the most efficient way to run C4's now that RR has been "fixed" in the way that the testes of a dog are fixed.
The method BUGRY and allies SWIFT use in C4's was PYFAnatically worked out by yours truly over a bottle of whisky. Scortch single malt, from the Isles. The bituminous peaty undertones really are quite nice.
I considered various things, including RR Domis, which realistically are a pain the the arse and armour fit don't pump out enough deeeeeeeps.
Given we are a social bunch of nerds and there are more than one of us, I worked on a gang size of 5 to 6, so lets just say 6.
The way to do it is 4 x Cruise Phoon, 2 x ironclad Guardians. Boosts (armour) optional, depends if you've got a toon and account to spare. Nice, but we do without.
You field 4300 DPS including sentries, or about 3200 just from cruise. You are packing 8 TP's (though you could drop 2 for webs given the limit on effective EWAR modules as being six per target), so with Precisions you can in fact apply your main weapon system to frigates. You also have a flight of light drones each and Guardian drones.
You land, wait a few seconds or the Guardians to burn ahead of you, MJD on top of the Sleepers, and blap them. You repeat for each wave, with practise your Guardians fly in a vector to anticipate your MJD jumps. Your phoons project DPS to 114km with cruises and 84km with Sentry.
This is super-efficient for groups of the right size. More than, eg, Eos/Oni and Abso/Guard gangs or any other.
[Typhoon, C4 Cruise Phoon]
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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
510
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Posted - 2014.10.02 15:35:00 -
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Do you know how much dps the sites tank now? Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Aiyshimin
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
125
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Posted - 2014.10.02 15:45:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Do you know how much dps the sites tank now?
Enough to require refitting a solo Kronos to blasters for the 3RR BS wave of Command Post, but not more.
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rai oden
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:23:00 -
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What is everyones practice with marauders like the vagur doing solo c5 sites. i have tired my vargur with a fit used by many to do garrisons solo.. but after the patch i had a moment where in bastion mode i dropped down to low armor in a c5 gas site.... idk if being 4k had something to do with it.
Anyone have any unique marauder fits for c5, and or play styles to go through the sites. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:56:00 -
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I don't have much experience with marauders but I don't think the Vargur is a very good PVE boat. I'd recommend using the paladin if you're able. I can't help you much beyond that tho. Blue-Fire Best Fire |
rai oden
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
5
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Posted - 2014.10.03 23:26:00 -
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I can see the palidin being effective due its weapons range up to 100k. How ever aginst sleepers, I find the neuting of c5 un settling upon the palidin, but I can admit not activly playing consistant refit game like the single dreads escalation. Ill move to a dread when I gain an understanding inthe video did certian things like warp 60 k up etc. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.05 17:27:00 -
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There's no reason to not play the constant refit game. It allows you to do so much and doesn't cost you anything except the space to carry mobile depots in cargo. Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Orange Aideron
Blue-Fire
45
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Posted - 2014.10.06 06:01:00 -
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C5 sites Paladin, this is adapted from a corp mail. So flame away.
Part 1
I've played around on SiSi for a while after watching this video: after a few maurader losses (5 or so) I found the best where the golem and paladin, you dont need to MJD/warp around to apply DPS. I had better paladin skills and went from there. After SiSi tried it on TQ. I lost my first TQ paladin to triggering 2 garrison waves, 2nd loss was due forgetting a CCC rig on the refit. 3rd loss was talking to a friend on TS while not watching my scout, russians got me ... RIP R&D mark III
I average about 200mil in loot from a C5 garrison or stronghold. I run between 35-45min per site. I have maruaders V (needed) with a lot of support skills to V.
Good WH's for Paladin No effect Mag's(more dps, less lock range) Red Giants (smartbomb range bonus, overheat bonus) Wolf-Rayets (armor hp bonus, less sig radius)
Bad sites for Paladin cataclysmic (less local rep) Black Hole (extra speed, less turrent optimal - is possible with sensor booster) Pulsar (less armor resists, more cap) are very bad to run sites in (with a paladin)
Fitting: RESERVED - come back soon * Strongholds and Garrisons - if you can run these you can run all the sites trigger correctly.
Use Conflag 1000dps upto 30km, use scorch for everything beyond that. Multifreq is for crusiers orbiting at 15km due to extra tracking (t2 ammo has a tracking penalty). Standard crystals are for 1) sometimes crystals break out of sequence, you'll need to reload a different crystal set before it will let you reload the broken crystals and 2) saves you cap if you're having a lot of issues, however if you're using standard, you're not ready skill wise to run sites with a lazor boat yet.
Expect to refit the 3 utility highs, at least 2 mids, and the t2 heat sink out in the low from time to time. Note as you get more comfortable with the sites you can refit more lows for more gank/tank to make them run faster. I noticed the biggest speed factor is timing the frigs with triggers/etc, definately speed up the sites.
this in my head: RESERVED I only have this to tank the latter DPS wave of Strongholds not required for any of the other sites and you don't need this head if you have links.
this in my hold: http://puu.sh/bN9FD/74 I use 2 mobile depots because mistakes happen and I have smartbombed them death a few times. Tractor unit (named Devoter) can be faction or cheap, up-to-you. remember time is money. I guess the flipside is: money is money - my magpie cost 300mil
Explinamacationism: MJD = GTFO, but also if pvp happens it's not a bad thing to have on hand. scram/point = if pvp happens web = if pvp happens, trust me you going to need all the tracking help you can get with large turrets battery (large peroxide) = anti pvp neuts, with NOS on a geddon you'll cap him out fast (tested) - BTW without cap you die! probe launcher & probes = scanny things that need scanning, you know, when you get rolled out. 100mn = nice to have, just in case you need more mass, or need to get closer or pvp?? = options. ECM = GTFO, can use on pointing rats also options in pvp DAMAGE CONTROL! = swap out the T2 heat sink for a damage control if you're taking on too much damage, if pvp, fit this right away! Drugs = I use for solo strongholds (high dps final wave), but not needed if you have links or even friends. Tracking Computer = swap cap recharges for more tracking on cruisers waves, occasionally i use optimal range on conflag to hit out to 44km. Tracking Enhancer = I swap out the heat sink for a tracking enhancer if having poor hits, or if I'm in boss-mode I drop a ENAM for one. Capacitor Power Relay = life savers! swap with the t2 heatsink, you should already be 4x cap rechagers in the mid. Fit if you're going below 20% (i hovered at 18% sometimes, but that's very sketchy, you should be above this). Note peak recharge rate is about 25% you don't want to be too far below this. salvager II = you need the t2 one or its not worth it, just take blue loots from the Nanite = no explanation needed. hull rep = ... nanite + hull rep: BOSS F***ING MODE, that's all you need to know!
Finally, use eve survival for triggers
edit: Spit into parts |
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Orange Aideron
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.06 06:02:00 -
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RESERVED
Part 2
FAQ: Q: Can my dank ISK making paladin run sites alongside capital fleets? A: I understand that peoples experiences of PVE in higher class boss-mode-space varies from none to can-we-try-going-into-structure-this-time, but let me explain how it works. Capitals spawn super NPC rats that do about 5000dps per wave. A wave spawns for each capital we warp in, up to 6 waves (carriers spawn 2 waves independent of the dreads) Its massive DPS! Your dank ISK making T2 Battleship can only tank about 3000dps. Sorry but any cap that warps in while youGÇÖre doing a site is going to get you popped. Q: B-b-but sub-capitals ... they live, right? A: Loki's have a cruiser 120m sig with tech 2 resists. They should be moving and have capital armor reps on them constantly, when primaried they go from no armor to full armor with the carrier reps on them. Your battleship needs to be in Bastion Mode which reduces you to 0 m/s, while your sig is 400m in size with about as much buffer as a tanky cruiser, but a lot less repping than carrier remote reps. Also support ships providing webs for the dreads to murder the hardest of NPCGÇÖs. Dreads do 10000000000 dps and therefore muchly, much more dank than the dankiest of t2 battleships. Q: My probably-out-of-date EFT said that officer hull tanking mods should work even with my s**t-lord-f**k-wit skills .... why did i still die? A: Actually running sites is the only experience you'll have for fits working. It's not a on-paper thing. Sorry, but did you have a bookmark for that wreck? If in doubt try it on SISI. Q: Why synth drugs why are you such a *****? A: fair point, but I know I'm never going to get a negative bender like that time with your **** (NB: edited irrelevant butvery funny corp Q&A) |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
511
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Posted - 2014.10.06 07:15:00 -
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Updated OP
Glad you wrote it out here so I didn't have to copy the corp mail Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Orange Aideron
Blue-Fire
45
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Posted - 2014.10.06 08:38:00 -
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As a side note, running solo marauder has made me a lot more comfortable in capitals, refitting on the go is awesome, even if your that f1 dread warrior, swaping out mods mid fight is brilliant and should be practiced by all. |
Meliiza Proudmore
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:38:00 -
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Noob question: Is Myrmidon still viable to solo C1-2,3? |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 03:38:00 -
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Not sure about c3 but I'm sure shiny + boosts could probably pull it off Blue-Fire Best Fire |
rai oden
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
5
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Posted - 2014.10.09 12:27:00 -
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So the all mighty paladin is a go, I will attempt this. Ill asume the same sequence of events work for the kronos as well. |
Milenor
Spirit Unlimited La Division Bleue
0
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:18:00 -
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Hi, What kind of matar ship should i used to farm C3 in solo on my Matar char ? The Mael still a good idea ? (i've seen a fit for C3 solo on this forum : http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/65341-Wormhole-C3-Solo-Maelstrom-10-Mins-per-site.html ) |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:30:00 -
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Idk Maelstrom would probably work ASB fit, but then you gotta deal with cap booster. Otherwise you'd most likely have to be highly skilled or shiny fit. I used a machariel+tengu combo for blitzing c3 sites. Matari aren't that great for pve stuff unfortunately... Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Orange Aideron
Blue-Fire
48
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Posted - 2014.10.13 23:43:00 -
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rai oden wrote:So the all mighty paladin is a go, I will attempt this. Ill asume the same sequence of events work for the kronos as well.
The change I'd make if using Krono's would be to warp at range from the spatial rift (garrison) so you can use that to warp to 40km on the last wave to be on top of the BS's. To be honest C5 Krono's was really slow for me in testing. It struggles to hit anything at range, also doesn't respond well under a lot of neuts, but I didn't die on SiSi in testing so there's that.
Let us know how you get on. |
Orange Aideron
Blue-Fire
48
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Posted - 2014.10.13 23:45:00 -
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It will still work, but probably find it faster to swap to highs out mid site (mobile debot) for faction smartbombs to kill frigates. RR is stronger now. Try it and see how it goes? |
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Milenor
Spirit Unlimited La Division Bleue
0
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Posted - 2014.10.14 12:55:30 -
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I've tried the fit, it's difficult to tank the last pocket of Frontier in C3 pulsar, the sleeper battleship makes me mad, too much capa sucks and too far from me , any ideas to solve this problem ? Thanks.
(btw i have only one account) |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
530
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Posted - 2014.10.14 17:45:03 -
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Its out of barrage range?
Refit for range + tank with mobile depot. IE tracking enhancers and power diags
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Milenor
Spirit Unlimited La Division Bleue
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Posted - 2014.10.14 21:12:52 -
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The BS is out of IEM RF L (35km fall off) , don't know how to get more range without losing dps and tank, i've the mobile depot too. What kind of tracking enhancers ? I've already to Tracking enhancers TII
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/65341-Wormhole-C3-Solo-Maelstrom-10-Mins-per-site.html |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
530
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Posted - 2014.10.14 21:50:44 -
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use barrage. It will put you out to 60km range
Blue-Fire Best Fire
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Milenor
Spirit Unlimited La Division Bleue
0
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Posted - 2014.10.15 01:34:00 -
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Battleship (Sleepless Preserver), i took too much damage from him, can i change something on the Mael to tank him more ?
(P.S. : Wich is the best TIII ship to skill to do solo c3/c4 ? Is it any real viable fit available ?)
Thanks again. |
Milenor
Spirit Unlimited La Division Bleue
0
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Posted - 2014.10.15 01:34:25 -
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Battleship (Sleepless Preserver), i took too much damage from him, can i change something on the Mael to tank him more ?
Btw, too much capa drain and not enough cargo space to stock enough XL charge for the dark blood cap.
(P.S. : Wich is the best TIII ship to skill to do solo c3/c4 ? Is it any real viable fit available ?)
Thanks again. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
530
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Posted - 2014.10.15 01:50:38 -
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You could remove the web and put another invuln and fit power diags in the lows for more tank.
Tengu is best solo ship for c3/c4
Blue-Fire Best Fire
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.15 12:09:33 -
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Hi
Is this still viable since RR-Sleeper-Patch? And this fit is not complete? Is this supposed to be so, which I can't imagine?
thanks for some help. |
Orange Aideron
Blue-Fire
52
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Posted - 2014.10.15 18:48:57 -
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Milenor wrote:Battleship (Sleepless Preserver), i took too much damage from him, can i change something on the Mael to tank him more ?
Switch to T2 Barrage L to hit him, also a damage control in the low helps a lot for tank.
Milenor wrote: Btw, too much capa drain and not enough cargo space to stock enough XL charge for the dark blood cap.
Cap skills help a lot. but try putting a flux coil in the low?
Perhaps you should try having a close to cap stable ship and go from there? Can you fly a Machariel?
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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
530
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Posted - 2014.10.15 19:31:27 -
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HoruSeth wrote:Hi Is this still viable since RR-Sleeper-Patch? And this fit is not complete? Is this supposed to be so, which I can't imagine? thanks for some help.
That fit does indeed look ******. Will pull it down.
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