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Tsuni Aina
Mordu's Legion Mordu's Legion Command
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Posted - 2014.06.10 10:42:00 -
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Capsuleers,
We appreciate your assistance in hunting down unmanned Guristas outposts and retrieving their encrypted data. Thanks to you, we have made great strides in our quest to pin down locations of their research and trading hubs. We trust you are enjoying the rewards that the Legion has been providing for your services.
By our estimations, we have now amassed all the data we need to launch a full-scale assault on the hubs of this vile faction. Once that operation begins, we want to emphasize that your services will no longer be required, and that if you should encounter one of these hubs yourself, you should absolutely not interfere with Legion operations.
If you do, you will find us less than welcoming.
Thank you for your attention,
Tsuni Aina Strike Commander Bravo Cell Mordu's Legion Command |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
602
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Posted - 2014.06.10 10:50:00 -
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Ooooh, Legion forces going to be slaughtered by their own ships given to the eggers they enticed in the first place. There's a certain irony in this, but I hardly find it particularly surprising.
I wonder who makes these decisions of dangling nice juicy bits of meat in front of a pack of carnivores, then snatching them away and thinking it's a good idea? Their mouths are watering and someone's getting eaten. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
4727
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Posted - 2014.06.10 10:54:00 -
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Ms. Aina,
I appreciate the time you took to make this post. There are two particular aspects of it, however, that I must question.
Firstly - why are you attempting to tell capsuleers what they can or cannot do? I'm sure we all remember the infamous CONCORD announcement about "ghost sites," in which Squarejaw McGrumpyface repeatedly told us that the empires demanded our compliance and insisted that we not go anywhere near Ghost Sites. Not only did this announcement have precisely the opposite effect to that which CONCORD intended, it informed previously ignorant capsuleers of the existence of ghost sites. Given that Mordu's Legion is far more worldly and pragmatic, I have to say that frankly I expected a little better from you.
Secondly - why are you making veiled threats against capsuleers? At the very best, some of us - like me - will humour your request with some degree of eye-rolling simply because we're currently busy doing other things. Most of us will scoff. Some of us will see it as a challenge. Unless you plan on fielding thousands of capsuleers against us, there's not much you can really do - sure, you can put bounties on our heads or give us terrible standing, but the vast majority of us don't care about standing with Mordu's Legion. Out here in nullsec, I regularly fight Guristas battlegroups by myself (sorry, Ohminen - no hard feelings, but I need my payday just like you do!) without breaking a sweat, and I've fought entire Mordus fleets intruding into Federal territory before - I appreciate that with the new technology you've brought out your non-capsuleer forces might have a slight edge over current pirate fleets, but that's not going to make a great amount of difference to us.
Please rest assured that I'm not trying to mock you. I'm genuinely unclear as to why you're trying this course of action when you must know it's not going to deter us. Mane 614
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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
427
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Posted - 2014.06.10 12:02:00 -
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More intel, more empty threats.
I'm almost starting to like you people. Good luck on the attack on the Guristas to reclaim your stolen assets. We'll be right behind, watching as you and the Pirates kill each other.
Just keep in mind, the one holding the field in the end gets to loot the wrecks. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc |
Wendrika
Corvidae Trading and Holding
50
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Posted - 2014.06.10 12:46:00 -
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Can't we all just get along and hate the Guristas together?
Those damn bunny-eared meanies deserve to be squashed. And I like the Mordu's Legion! I supose if I spot you guys I'll put some distance. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
2216
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Posted - 2014.06.10 12:57:00 -
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Ah, good to see that no one ever learns, ever.
Threatening to blow up capsuleers doesn't work, Mordu's Legion. |
Foley Aberas Jones
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
64
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Posted - 2014.06.10 13:15:00 -
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No one ever asks us Dusters for help....i consider you guys lucky you got to help for awhile |
Jonny D Adtur
always faithfull
3
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Posted - 2014.06.10 13:47:00 -
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Foley Aberas Jones wrote:No one ever asks us Dusters for help....i consider you guys lucky you got to help for awhile
They don't ask Dusters, they pay them and tell them what to do. Thats the way of the mercenary. |
Anslo
Scope Works
5422
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Posted - 2014.06.10 13:52:00 -
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Yeah cause CONCORD telling us not to touch Ghost sites or enter Wormholes worked so well right?
Everyone! Point at her! Point at her and laugh!
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3827
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:10:00 -
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Wouldn't just paying us for our assistance be more practical? It'd certainly assuage the largest part of Empyrean curiosity. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6307
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:14:00 -
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Commander Aina;
Others have already said much on this topic. All I will say is that capsuleers naturally respond to proper incentive. You would do better to encourage us to assist you in this endeavor.
What's more, it may be ideal for the Legion to more closely ally itself to a CONCORD signatory. At present, while I greatly respect the Legion's work in the Intaki and Luminaire systems on behalf of Ishukone Okusaika, I still think of the Legion has a mercenary force. Unfortunately, mercenaries do not merit much loyalty when operating independently of a contractor.
Yours in service, Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
4733
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:25:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Wouldn't just paying us for our assistance be more practical? It'd certainly assuage the largest part of Empyrean curiosity. Indeed. The number one best way to stop capsuleers shooting at you is to make it more profitable to assist you. Mane 614
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Graelyn
Decapsulation Services Circle-Of-Two
632
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Posted - 2014.06.10 15:39:00 -
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You have touched Flame to the Pyre to batter your enemy.
Then, you would simply Command the Conflagration to extinguish itself.
Foolish.
Now you will see what a Flame Does. It's sole design.
It Consumes. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" Amarr Loyalist of the Year --áYC113 |
Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
782
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Posted - 2014.06.10 15:54:00 -
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You'll find it's very difficult to uninvolve capsuleers, and I am not certain how much hope is at the bottom of our Pandora's Box. |
Velarra
297
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:05:00 -
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Tsuni Aina wrote:Once that operation begins, we want to emphasize that your services will no longer be required, and that if you should encounter one of these hubs yourself, you should absolutely not interfere with Legion operations.
If you do, you will find us less than welcoming.
Tsuni Aina,
You can not reason with the Pilots of New Eden as you might base-liners or expect any of your requests to be taken seriously without incentives to ignore more base Pilot instincts. Concord does not ask or request - it within reason, understands Pilots. It provides limited annoyances some might consider "consequences" to breaking its suggestions. It feeds and provides overwhelming incentives to Pilots to act naturally in directions it desires.
Pilots have Clearance Documents, and only occasionally pay attention to the desires The Assembly. Reconsider your operation and its associated goals preferably now rather than when you find yourself in a new clone. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
608
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:34:00 -
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What exactly are Mordu's Legion forces doing at these sites? You prevent capsuleers from warping off and attempt to destroy their vessels, yet you don't seem to be destroying the hubs.
All due respect to Mordu's Legion and what you've done, but this request is too vague with not enough authority or reason behind it.
Are you trying to stop their research, or just take it for yourselves?
-Eran |
Jaret Victorian
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:38:00 -
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Good, give them hell.
I'd help you as I roam Gurista's territory quite often, but, well... If you need your intel so bad you forbid capsuleers to interfere - that's your choice. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
558
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:42:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:You have touched Flame to the Pyre to batter your enemy.
Then, you would simply Command the Conflagration to extinguish itself.
Foolish.
Now you will see what a Flame Does. It's sole design.
It Consumes.
What the...
Hmm...
The Cardinal would appear to have been taking elocution lessons from dear Empress Synthia. |
Calairis
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:43:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Wouldn't just paying us for our assistance be more practical?
Basically, this is a manoeuvre toward legitimacy, in my estimation. By asserting physical control over additional territories, by asserting the position to impart compensatory or punitive exchange within that sphere, they shift their identity from mercenary company to astropolitical authority. The system within that sphere is employed less to provide quid pro quo and more to supply the tacit acknowledgement of their right to do so.
They didn't want capsuleers' help to secure access to the hubs, they wanted capsuleers to accept that they had the right to access the hubs at all. Purely political. |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6307
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:51:00 -
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Mr. Mintor;
When discussing these sites, you'd reported that the hubs appear to have high-grade shielding of some sort. Could it be that they're hacking or otherwise penetrating the hub's security systems, to cause system failure?
Commander Aina;
Some associates and I were discussing these facilities. Simply said, is there any way we can assist you in this endeavor? Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
607
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:59:00 -
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Commander Aina,
Good luck in your operations. Unlike the childish antics of those above who think being told not to do something is incentive to go ahead and do it, some of us at least will respect your wishes and not interfere. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
682
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:06:00 -
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Commander Aina,
Of all the forces, I would think Mordu's Legion would be wiser in handling the Capsuleers. You encounter and deal with them on a daily basis in Intaki and Caldari prime.
By that hands-on experience I would think Mordu's Legion is aware on what drives most capsuleers: greed, and in this case, that everything has a price.Telling them in a public announcement not to interfere after they helped you gather all the itneldata and hand it over is quite rude in the capsuleer community. Many gave you that researchdata without attempting to hack or check what the data is about (I'm sure there were some who did, but far from all) Now you tell m *Thanks for the goodies, now get off!* Rest assured the capsuleers will come and claim their prize, at your own cost. I'm afraid the error of disrespecting capsuleers will be a very costly one. One that would have been no issue if you had been more open and rewarded them to assist you. Helping Serpentis civilians -á-áMercenaries for peace: Mordu's Legion |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3835
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:13:00 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:I'm afraid the error of disrespecting capsuleers will be a very costly one. One that would have been no issue if you had been more open and rewarded them to assist you.
Or simply kept quiet, for that matter.
An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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iyammarrok
Disconnected. Ineluctable.
185
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:17:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Ah, good to see that no one ever learns, ever.
Threatening to blow up capsuleers doesn't work, Mordu's Legion.
I seem to remember the exact same threats coming from a certain Kuvakei fellow. Pot, Kettle. Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
682
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:20:00 -
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iyammarrok wrote:Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Ah, good to see that no one ever learns, ever.
Threatening to blow up capsuleers doesn't work, Mordu's Legion. I seem to remember the exact same threats coming from a certain Kuvakei fellow. Pot, Kettle.
Indeed, but at least he had the manpower to back it up, and honestly, he's still going at it, so can't speak of victory (or defeat) yet, it's an impasse. Helping Serpentis civilians -á-áMercenaries for peace: Mordu's Legion |
Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3777
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:48:00 -
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Unlike some, I value my relatively high standings with the Legion. I'll accede to your wishes. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
602
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:53:00 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:iyammarrok wrote:Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Ah, good to see that no one ever learns, ever.
Threatening to blow up capsuleers doesn't work, Mordu's Legion. I seem to remember the exact same threats coming from a certain Kuvakei fellow. Pot, Kettle. Indeed, but at least he had the manpower to back it up, and honestly, he's still going at it, so can't speak of victory (or defeat) yet, it's an impasse.
Yes. Us getting stupidly filthy rich with next to no risk of anything but a minor ISK loss every once in a while is an impasse. The twits don't even pop the pod if memory serves. Thousands upon thousands of his ships, starbases and other invasion infrastructure are destroyed regularly with zero capsuleer deaths to his name.
Eggers won and keep winning, approximately 31.5 million ISK at a time. That's not even counting the credit CONCORD extends for pretty much every specialty piece of tech, ship and implants an egger could ever want. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
1601
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Posted - 2014.06.11 00:12:00 -
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If there's one thing I've learned, it's that potential three-way engagements can often be the most fun. |
Vikarion
State Trade Consortium
787
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Posted - 2014.06.11 03:15:00 -
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"Dear capsuleers: Thanks for the help. Now, screw off. Don't come over here, where we are, or we'll be forced to attack you with ships chock-full of loot and salvage. You wouldn't want that, driving that much more capable and nasty ship you have. Oh, and definitely don't go poking around our giant box of goodies afterwards, which we spent a few weeks paying you a royal mint to track down. You seriously don't want anything to do with the latest technology in the cluster or the potential to resell it for vast amounts of money."
Geez. The Blood Raider Covenant has a better PR machine than that. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1122
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:24:00 -
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Outposts as they were, they will remain. What some peoples didn't understand, is that Cmdr. Aina stated, that their ships will attack you, if you enter these facilities. Just for some of so-called "good pilots", won't start crying, why suddenly "good" Mordu ships attacked them.
You have been warned. There is no reason to make drama out of it. |
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