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hetty B
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:22:00 -
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Hello fellow Eve pilots, i understand most of you here are familiar with the Bonus room scam and the controversy of Erotica1? Well my good friend who i have known for some time decided to try Eve and under my wing i took him in and let him into my corp,now i do realize that i should have made him aware of such a scam but i had no idea he would be so silly as to fall for the bonus room scam. But hey ho he did and has now lost all his isk mostly paid for with real cash and all his SP, they have even had him lower his sec status so concord will keep killing him..
Now he wants to quit the game which is understandable and i have advised him to file a ticket requesting that he get his belongings back and his SP. Now i know there has been many cases like this and players either learn from it or quit but all i want to know is why have CCP still allowed **** like this to happen to new players and not seem to be looking after our new players?
And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ? |
Paranoid Loyd
626
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:23:00 -
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Did I find a time machine? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
658
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:37:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Did I find a time machine? I'm assuming that Ero was not involved in this. I might be wrong though. OP, stop bringing up the new player card. Your friend was running around with large amounts of isk before he knew its value and decided to risk more than he should have. He lost his gamble, and now you're on the forums complaining about ingame assets. I have no sympathy for that. If the perpetrators of this scam clearly had the primary intent of "bullying" your friend, after he had nothing left to take, then perhaps we can talk. Not before then though. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2442
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:48:00 -
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Admits friend is an idiot. Calls it cyberbullying anyway. Eve = Competitive environment. Idiots do not fare well. Working as intended. "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
lanyaie
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exit Strategy..
993
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:06:00 -
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Does he have any assets left? If so
Can I have his stuff? Also, why are you posting this for him? Hai |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2138
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:11:00 -
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hetty B wrote:Hello fellow Eve pilots, i understand most of you here are familiar with the Bonus room scam and the controversy of Erotica1? Well my good friend who i have known for some time decided to try Eve and under my wing i took him in and let him into my corp,now i do realize that i should have made him aware of such a scam but i had no idea he would be so silly as to fall for the bonus room scam. But hey ho he did and has now lost all his isk mostly paid for with real cash and all his SP, they have even had him lower his sec status so concord will keep killing him..
Now he wants to quit the game which is understandable and i have advised him to file a ticket requesting that he get his belongings back and his SP. Now i know there has been many cases like this and players either learn from it or quit but all i want to know is why have CCP still allowed **** like this to happen to new players and not seem to be looking after our new players?
And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ?
How did they get him to lose skill points and hack the game so Concord will kill him based on his sec status?
I'm starting to think your "friend" isn't the only idiot here. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
658
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:14:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:How did they get him to lose skill points and hack the game so Concord will kill him based on his sec status?
I'm starting to think your "friend" isn't the only idiot here. I'm thinking our OP doesn't know what "Faction Police" are. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2138
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:15:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:How did they get him to lose skill points and hack the game so Concord will kill him based on his sec status?
I'm starting to think your "friend" isn't the only idiot here. I'm thinking our OP doesn't know what "Faction Police" are. I reiterate my second statement. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
660
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:16:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:How did they get him to lose skill points and hack the game so Concord will kill him based on his sec status?
I'm starting to think your "friend" isn't the only idiot here. I'm thinking our OP doesn't know what "Faction Police" are. I reiterate my second statement. Could we get it a third time? New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1071
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:19:00 -
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hetty B wrote: ...Bonus room scam and the controversy of Erotica1? ... And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ?
The recording of the masterful experiment in social interaction run by Ero 1 can be found here.
However, for your scurrilous use of the term 'cyber bully' applied to people simply metagaming within the framework of 'HTFU', 'Be The Villain' and 'Everything Is Fair Game' as marketed by CCP to this day, we must add a +1 to the Kill-It-Forward queue, while we await CCP's clarification of the 'HTFU' trademark, to perhaps 'HTFU..unless someones feelings get hurt' alternate version...
However, if you renounce your use of the term 'cyber bully' in the next 2 hours, the Kill-It-Forward warrant will be rescinded.
Otherwise, an innocent carebears blood will be harvested in your name, to fuel my Ashimmu....
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Would you like to know more? |
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Dave Stark
6281
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:20:00 -
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Eve mail Ripard Teg, he'll get this matter straightened out for you. |
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:22:00 -
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OP you failed your friend by neglecting in your responsibilities as CEO to educate a new player you had taken under your wing.
You could have prevented this.
If anything you should be maing a public apology to your friend. Concord Approved Trader |
Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
761
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:51:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: Idiots do not fare well. Working as intended.
Sir, this tagline should be on every piece of hardware from mice to toaster ovens.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2142
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Posted - 2014.06.10 18:25:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: Idiots do not fare well. Working as intended. Sir, this tagline should be on every piece of hardware from mice to toaster ovens.
I suddenly have an image of tiny rodents with little disclaimers stapled to them in my head. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1226
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Posted - 2014.06.10 18:26:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Eve mail Ripard Teg, he'll get this matter straightened out for you.
Ripard Teg surrendered to the New Order, didn't you hear? Don't count on his intervention to punish the bad "griefers" anymore. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources
297
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Posted - 2014.06.10 19:53:00 -
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Sounds like you haven't given him any reason to stay. That's poor corp management. GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18695
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Posted - 2014.06.10 20:28:00 -
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The OPs "friends" problem is twofold, he was both greedy, and an idiot.
As above Idiots do not fare well here. Eve is an introduction to teamwork, paranoia, dealing with consequences, coping with loss, economics, long term planning, bartering, astronomy, and the theory of space submarine travel.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
357
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Posted - 2014.06.10 20:50:00 -
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"I wonder if I asked people to get repeatedly podded in an alpha clone until they've no SP left, just to prove their loyalty in my scam room... nah that would never work."
It's such a crazy notion that it makes me wonder if anyone even thought of it and didn't do it before someone thought of it and did. Genius and madness coming together.
Eve "No Limits" Online. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed] |
Marseillefrog
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.06.10 20:51:00 -
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hetty B wrote:Hello fellow Eve pilots, i understand most of you here are familiar with the Bonus room scam and the controversy of Erotica1? Well my good friend who i have known for some time decided to try Eve and under my wing i took him in and let him into my corp,now i do realize that i should have made him aware of such a scam but i had no idea he would be so silly as to fall for the bonus room scam. But hey ho he did and has now lost all his isk mostly paid for with real cash and all his SP, they have even had him lower his sec status so concord will keep killing him..
Now he wants to quit the game which is understandable and i have advised him to file a ticket requesting that he get his belongings back and his SP. Now i know there has been many cases like this and players either learn from it or quit but all i want to know is why have CCP still allowed **** like this to happen to new players and not seem to be looking after our new players?
And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ?
Go back to WoW |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
704
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Posted - 2014.06.10 20:57:00 -
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hetty B wrote:rampant stupidity
I would say call Ripard Teg, but he has...retired.
So, I shall just say Obvious Troll Is Obvious.
Proofs.
Rabblerabblerabble.
TLDR yer a bit late to jump on this bandwagon kid, Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Scorsigaar
Myname Replacement Brokerage LLC
116
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Posted - 2014.06.10 22:06:00 -
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In other online games stupid people are merely annoying. In EvE they're a valuable resource. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6943
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Posted - 2014.06.10 22:08:00 -
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"mostly paid for with real cash"
So... CCP already got his money, then? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3
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Posted - 2014.06.10 23:05:00 -
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Scorsigaar wrote:In other online games stupid people are merely annoying. In EvE they're a valuable resource. QFT |
Retar Aveymone
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
443
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Posted - 2014.06.10 23:19:00 -
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maybe your friend shouldn't have tried to pay to win |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3075
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Posted - 2014.06.10 23:24:00 -
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Please do not trivialise cyberbullying (which is a very real, very serious issue) with being out-competed by deceptive play in a competitive game.
If someone bluffs me at poker and the bluff wins them a big hand, I do not call them a child abuser, a drug dealer or a cyberbully. Instead, I look at how they bested me, what I can learn from it, where I went wrong, and how I can stop it happening again. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
697
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Posted - 2014.06.10 23:33:00 -
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^That. I wish I could like it more. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Fighter Jets GuitarSolo
Krypteia Operations
254
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Posted - 2014.06.10 23:58:00 -
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Can I have your friends stuff?
Oh wait. Evemail me or convo me in-game to inquire about my honest and ethical ISK doubling services! If you're in Jita, stop in and say Hi! ;) :D |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
309
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Posted - 2014.06.11 00:17:00 -
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hetty B wrote:Hello fellow Eve pilots, i understand most of you here are familiar with the Bonus room scam and the controversy of Erotica1?
Yes, we are all familiar with this. Erotica 1 is banned, and has nothing to do with your friend whatsoever. Moving on.
hetty B wrote: Now he wants to quit the game which is understandable and i have advised him to file a ticket requesting that he get his belongings back and his SP. Now i know there has been many cases like this and players either learn from it or quit but all i want to know is why have CCP still allowed **** like this to happen to new players and not seem to be looking after our new players?
So either your friend learns from this experience (sounds like he got scammed out of his money, and convinced to himself over and over and then taking actions to lower his sec status, right?) and stops being greedy and foolish, or he quits the game. This sounds like it's working 100% as intended. From what I am reading here, even though I don't have the full story, I am willing to guess that your friend fell for some classic scams and got taught a lesson.
This is the point where he can just laugh about it, learn from it, and move on to do better - or he can cry all over the forms and beg CCP to make Eve a happy land of unicorns and rainbows where players are unable to take advantage of other players. I know which one I would choose.
As was pointed out earlier, perhaps you should cease being such a awful officer of your corporation (you state that you allowed him into your corp) and make sure you either take in members that are not terrible or take the time to educate them on how to not be terrible? HTFU, take some responsibility for your corp and the actions of your members, and stop crying to others about "Cyber bullies". It sounds like neither you nor your friend have any business being in a player run corp, as you have proven you are both unable to handle it.
hetty B wrote: And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ?
No. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
1316
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Posted - 2014.06.11 00:33:00 -
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This is not the audio you are looking for but your friend may want it. I'm Denzel Washington, and I play chess. |
Jack Lennox
Killing With a Smile
140
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Posted - 2014.06.11 00:43:00 -
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hetty B wrote:
Now he wants to quit the game which is understandable and i have advised him to file a ticket requesting that he get his belongings back and his SP.
This has happened before and if it happens again I'm going to be pissed. If you're dumb enough to pod yourself again and again and again you deserve to lose SP.
hetty B wrote: And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ?
Basically what Sabriz said. Cyberbullying is a real thing that is very harmful, but this is not it. You're trivializing an otherwise very important issue by labeling this incident as such.
If you're offended/bothered/upset about what someone wants you to do in Teamspeak, then click the red "x" in the top right corner of your screen. Boom. Problem solved.
Harden.
The.
****.
Up.
Would write more but I have a Microcenter 7 update that I need to take care of, cheers
EDIT: Obligatory "Erotica 1 did nothing wrong" post Been ganked? Robbed? Space feelings hurt?-á Now there's something you can do! Fill out a Customer Service Comment Card!-á EIther that or contact everyone's favorite Space Detective for an instant ban! |
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