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Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 10:24:00 -
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Dear All,
from what I have searched this topic has cropped up quite a lot over the years, the earliest posts I have found date back to 2008. From what I can see however there seems to be quite a lot of arguments against the suggested idea of being able to respec your character, such as the following.
Cookie Cutter fits, Corporations requiring respec Killing Character trading Tokens effecting the economy/market Removing the "character" in our characters No more risk/reward with training properly and forethought/planning The ability to instantly change training while in corp allowing easier infiltration etc.
So taking this into account, and discussing it outside of game with friends a few people and myself came up with this adaptation.
The ability to liquidate a character, and use the SP to boost another character.
The limitation on this would be as follows:
To liquidate the character you would need to spend a PLEX card. You cannot boost a character with more SP - here is the crucial condition - than you would have been able to gain through training had you been constantly training. You can only ADD SP to a characters skills, not remove already trained skills and redistribute. the Original character that is liquidated would obviously be unrecoverable. You can only do this 3 times a year per character to avoid people buying multiple low SP characters and boosting multiple times rather then 1-3 high SP characters to get where you want to be.
Let me explain further with an example of this. (fake numbers etc)
My character was created in 2009
In total I could have trained - if I was constantly subbed 40m SP
However I have only trained 24m SP
That means there is a deficit in potential for my character of about 16m SP.
I purchase a character with 20m SP.
Using a PLEX liquidate this new character and inject their SP into my main character.
This gives me 16m SP (the other 4m SP is wasted as I could not have legitimately got this in the length of time of my character)
I can now use 16m SP injecting it into skills of my choice, to bring my character up to their original full potential.
I cannot remove skill points from skills trained, nor can I redistribute them. I can only add the new SP gained by destroying and absorbing the brain matter if you will of the liquidated pilot.
I was perhaps thinking that there could be further restrictions on this such as a percentage is returned rather then a guaranteed number of SP - and perhaps ingame items such as clone vat bays / medical facilities / clone grades and the like could also contribute to variations on returned SP.
Please let me know what you think and any suggestions you can make would be appreciated.
I expect this to be met with mixed review, The upside of this would be players who have not continuously subbed can realised their characters full potential, two characters combined would generate more sale potential on the market and it might even draw people in to play more if they could combine characters to boost their abilities and get more involved quicker.
The restrictions stop abuse or Pay 2 Win as you are limited with what you could have got by subbing every month.
It increases Plex Sales and their use. And means you are no longer at a disadvantage if you mis a month or two and want to come back etc.
I look forward to your replies. |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2360
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Posted - 2014.06.11 10:35:00 -
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absofuckinglutely not, for all the negative reasons provided in every other "something for SP" style threads. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
553
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Posted - 2014.06.11 10:43:00 -
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Where's the huge list of multi-national no's again :D
For my part absolutely no for all the usual reasons. |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 10:58:00 -
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From what I researched this method would not infringe on nearly all the previous negative effects of respecing.
In truth what I suggested is not a strait up respec, more allowing potential to be realised thru biomassing other characters.
Can you elaborate why you feel this will result in a negative effect?
I spent a fair bit of time working on the idea and I feel you either did not understand or did not read in full the suggestion.
I have already factored in controls to ensure there is no benefits to this outside the present structure of the game other then playing catch up in exchange for a very hefty price.
If you feel this is too cheap perhaps having a Plex cost for a specified number of SP on the character?
1-5m SP 1 Plex 6-10m SP 2 Plex 11-15m SP 3 Plex 16-20m Sp 4 Plex
Perhaps something like that as a development? |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
68
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:13:00 -
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No matter how much I love getting more SP .. aeh NO!
Just one xploit that pops to mind right away .. make a new alt, don't spent dual training or sub for 12 months, buy a 12 month SP char for under 12 plex and fill up yours in a talor made fashion. Respec done. Instant custom char.
For more reasons browse.
Edit:
Bal'Ayle wrote:1-5m SP 1 Plex 6-10m SP 2 Plex 11-15m SP 3 Plex 16-20m Sp 4 Plex
Adding more cost subtracts from the advantage but becomes more pay to win. |
Mag's
the united
17380
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:18:00 -
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Yolo wrote:No Nej +ä+º jo geen +++¦ he+º bir ez aª¿aª+ ne -+-¦ Dili neniu ei hindi aucun non -î-ç+¦ ßâÉßâáßâÉßâáßâÿßâí a¬òa½ïa¬ê Pa gen Ba +£+É añ¿añ¦aÑÇañé tsis mba tidak Uimh Nei püäpüäpüê Ana +º+Ö+Ö+ƒ a¦ça¦¦a¦ìa¦¦ ßPé߃ÆßPÿßP¦ßPô µùá täí 8òädïê ne a¦Üa+ìa+êa¦ía¦¦ n-ô Nru añ¿añ+añ¦aÑÇ
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:34:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:No matter how much I love getting more SP .. aeh NO! Just one xploit that pops to mind right away .. make a new alt, don't spent dual training or sub for 12 months, buy a 12 month SP char for under 12 plex and fill up yours in a talor made fashion. Respec done. Instant custom char. For more reasons browse. Edit: Bal'Ayle wrote:1-5m SP 1 Plex 6-10m SP 2 Plex 11-15m SP 3 Plex 16-20m Sp 4 Plex
Adding more cost subtracts from the advantage but becomes more pay to win.
I hadn't thought of this I will be completely honest with you and on that bases I would retract my idea, However perhaps work out the equivalent max SP that can be earned in 12 months, and base the Plex cost for equivelant SP off of that, +2/3 Plex.
So to do it my way would in fact cos you MORE than a sub for 12 months.
I would more than happily accept that ontop of varience on returned SP as a condition of my idea.
With regards to pay to win, my friends and I considered this and in reality if you had been subbing the entire age of your character it would be impossible to utilise this feature, urgo as being able to afford to constantly sub and have time enough to commit to the game is not perceived as pay to win (simply some people can afford to pay to support their habbit) where some people cannot afford this or cannot afford the time costs to earn the needed ISK this would therefore not be pay to win.
the potential to earn the SP normally was always available. at the time I started for instance if I couldnt afford a month there was no option to buy PLEX. So it was either pay or lose out on SP. I didnt feel that those who could afford the game at the time had any unfair advantage over me.
I feel that simply catching up with a character potential is not that game breaking nor really any sort of P2W as you can earn plex ingame to do this. |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:40:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Yolo wrote:No, Nej, +ä+º, jo, geen, +++¦, he+º bir, ez, aª¿aª+, ne, -+-¦, Dili, neniu, ei, hindi, aucun, non, -î-ç+¦, ßâÉßâáßâÉßâáßâÿßâí, a¬òa½ïa¬ê, Pa gen, Ba, +£+É, añ¿añ¦aÑÇañé, tsis, mba, tidak, Uimh, Nei, püäpüäpüê, Ana, +º+Ö+Ö+ƒ, a¦ça¦¦a¦ìa¦¦, ßPé߃ÆßPÿßP¦ßPô, µùá, täí, 8òädïê, ne, a¦Üa+ìa+êa¦ía¦¦, n-ô, Nru, añ¿añ+añ¦aÑÇ
I find this completely needless, could you not have simply put no? its excessive and completely uninformative as to why you express this opinion, could you please either condense this, or explain why? I would like to be convinced if you can of the negative points to an idea I feel has a lot of merits, and spend time writing up for you to read. |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
776
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:40:00 -
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NO nee jo na+» laa votch xeyir ez -¥-¦ na a+»lle ne nann n+¬ ma hoke phu no tla p+¦ shi n+¦ ne ne nej nee no ne ei nei ei non nee no non nanni ara nein ohi nah+íniri non -+aole lo nahin nem nei mba tidak no ii+¬ ala thay oya ahneo no bo minime n-ô no te ne nee neen -+-¦ tsia tidak le kaore Y-¦v-¦ nennin nei non -++ª-¦ no kheyr nie n+úo na nu -¥-¦-é no ag ne aiwa na nae nie ne ne a+» no siyo nej hindi aita lla illa+» yuk kadhu a¦äa+ía¦êa¦âa+èa¦ê hayir oevoel -¥-û (ni) +å+ç+è+å neni nage awa d+¬ed+¬et nein rara cha
Absolutely no way. Just say no to SP trading.
People will just make characters specifically in order to recycle them to get the FOTM.
All ideas regarding recycling or buying SP would be damaging for the game. JUST SAY NO!
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Quote:I find this completely needless, could you not have simply put no? its excessive and completely uninformative as to why you express this opinion, could you please either condense this, or explain why? I would like to be convinced if you can of the negative points to an idea I feel has a lot of merits, and spend time writing up for you to read.
Or.... you could stop being ultra lazy and take a look at all the past threads about recycling or buying SP and see all the arguments against it. People are getting pretty bored of having to write the same things over and over again because people like you can't be bothered to do a little research. |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:43:00 -
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could you please stop spamming No in multiple languages please. its the quivelant of a large blank post and makes it hard to read the discussion.
I am not suggesting that you can BUY SP.
If you read other points made I have already addressed that comment relating to character creation to recycle. This would cost more then just buying the character from other players. and would promote character trading if nothing else.
I cannot see how removing characters in view of bringing underutilised characters would damage the game. Please explain your points. I am willing to listen and discuss. |
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Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
776
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:45:00 -
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Then do some research and you'll find the answers. This has been argued to death already. |
Mag's
the united
17382
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:21:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:NO nee jo na+» laa votch xeyir ez -¥-¦ na a+»lle ne nann n+¬ ma hoke phu no tla p+¦ shi n+¦ ne ne nej nee no ne ei nei ei non nee no non nanni ara nein ohi nah+íniri non -+aole lo nahin nem nei mba tidak no ii+¬ ala thay oya ahneo no bo minime n-ô no te ne nee neen -+-¦ tsia tidak le kaore Y-¦v-¦ nennin nei non -++ª-¦ no kheyr nie n+úo na nu -¥-¦-é no ag ne aiwa na nae nie ne ne a+» no siyo nej hindi aita lla illa+» yuk kadhu a¦äa+ía¦êa¦âa+èa¦ê hayir oevoel -¥-û (ni) +å+ç+è+å neni nage awa d+¬ed+¬et nein rara cha Absolutely no way. Just say no to SP trading. People will just make characters specifically in order to recycle them to get the FOTM. All ideas regarding recycling or buying SP would be damaging for the game. JUST SAY NO! EDIT: Quote:I find this completely needless, could you not have simply put no? its excessive and completely uninformative as to why you express this opinion, could you please either condense this, or explain why? I would like to be convinced if you can of the negative points to an idea I feel has a lot of merits, and spend time writing up for you to read. Or.... you could stop being ultra lazy and take a look at all the past threads about recycling or buying SP and see all the arguments against it. People are getting pretty bored of having to write the same things over and over again because people like you can't be bothered to do a little research. Not empty quoting.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
424
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:22:00 -
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Bal'Ayle wrote:could you please stop spamming No in multiple languages please. its the quivelant of a large blank post and makes it hard to read the discussion.
I am not suggesting that you can BUY SP.
If you read other points made I have already addressed that comment relating to character creation to recycle. This would cost more then just buying the character from other players. and would promote character trading if nothing else.
I cannot see how removing characters in view of bringing underutilised characters would damage the game. Please explain your points. I am willing to listen and discuss. I will explain my point.
**** off.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:24:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:Then do some research and you'll find the answers. This has been argued to death already.
from the first couple sentences of my OP
"from what I have searched the topic of Respecing characters has cropped up quite a lot over the years, the earliest posts I have found date back to 2008."
I have thoroughly read the threads relating to this and as further explained multiple times I have taken the time to come up with counter arguments, adjustments and suggestions to mitigate the potential abuse that my suggestion could enable.
If you are so well read on the subject can you please re-evaluate my suggestions and counter arguments and alternatively suggest counter arguments backed up with reasoning as I have strove to provide you?
Rather then just slag off a topic by spamming multiple times, the same word?
For instance. While having searched some on google and thru the forum search facility I have yet to find a topic that suggests,
AT a greater cost then the submissions for the same amount of time/SP the ability to sacrifice Plex and a character to boost a characters SP up to the maximum their character would have legitimately been able to accrue over time via a normal subscription. and not one SP more then what any other character has the potential to gain.
All of the above at an increased cost than had the character just trained in sub times.
This is neither over powered, exclusive of players, outside of already established potential of the characters using established present mechanics.
I am merely suggesting a way in which at a hefty cost a player can recover lost time training. No boosting. No SP for ISk (in any more a direct way then using a plex and waiting) All in an effort to give added incentive to retuning players, boost character training and indirectly reduce inactive accounts with disused alts. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
424
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:25:00 -
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ISD lock this thread already, it's giving people the wrong impression that this is acceptable.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:25:00 -
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worth while contribution there, any purpose behind this?
Followed by a request to lock the topic under what grounds exactly? I am arguing for an idea and validating my suggestion as much as possible with this audience by responding as best I can to suggestions it would give an unfair advantage.
If you don't like the idea, simply explain why and leave it at that - why be so negative ^_^ |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
424
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:34:00 -
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Bal'Ayle wrote:worth while contribution there, any purpose behind this?
Followed by a request to lock the topic under what grounds exactly? I am arguing for an idea and validating my suggestion as much as possible with this audience by responding as best I can to suggestions it would give an unfair advantage.
If you don't like the idea, simply explain why and leave it at that - why be so negative ^_^
Skill buybackremovalcleansing search for that on https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6342&find=unread
You contributed nothing new in the entire thread and now you are being particularly irritating acting like you did nothing wrong.
Just go away.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
778
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:03:00 -
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Bal'Ayle wrote:worth while contribution there, any purpose behind this?
Followed by a request to lock the topic under what grounds exactly? I am arguing for an idea and validating my suggestion as much as possible with this audience by responding as best I can to suggestions it would give an unfair advantage.
If you don't like the idea, simply explain why and leave it at that - why be so negative ^_^
As I said, people are getting bored of having to explain to people why buying SP in any iteration is a bad idea for the game. It doesn't matter how you do it, it is open to abuse. You're already had it explained to you how to abuse your system.
If you didn't train because you weren't subbed, you didn't train. Trying to buy SP, irrespective of how you justify it, is bad for others.
It's nice that you're keeping your cool but seriously, it's a bad idea and won't be supported by the majority of the players and from what I've read from CCP it won't be supported by them either. You need the former to even begin to get the latter and you have neither. What does that say to you? Should you (a)continue to argue your point or should you (b)concede that irrespective of how you like the idea it isn't a good idea from the game or the majority of the player's perspectives and therefore isn't a good idea?
Just to give you a hint, the correct answer to this is (b) |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1895
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:22:00 -
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Bal'Ayle wrote:could you please stop spamming No in multiple languages please. its the quivalent of a large blank post and makes it hard to read the discussion. Would you prefer my brand of roleplay racism?
[rp] this is what happens when you teach Sebiestor's to read. seriously people , learn how to supess a culture properly or stay out of the ******* slave trade [/rp]
Quote:. I am willing to listen and discuss.
then you should have been willing to read one of the many other threads about this topic.
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2361
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:31:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Yolo wrote:No Nej +ä+º jo geen +++¦ he+º bir ez aª¿aª+ ne -+-¦ Dili neniu ei hindi aucun non -î-ç+¦ ßâÉßâáßâÉßâáßâÿßâí a¬òa½ïa¬ê Pa gen Ba +£+É añ¿añ¦aÑÇañé tsis mba tidak Uimh Nei püäpüäpüê Ana +º+Ö+Ö+ƒ a¦ça¦¦a¦ìa¦¦ ßPé߃ÆßPÿßP¦ßPô µùá täí 8òädïê ne a¦Üa+ìa+êa¦ía¦¦ n-ô Nru añ¿añ+añ¦aÑÇ
mind if I keep this handy?
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
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De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2159
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:33:00 -
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OP, I will be as polite as I possibly can.
This, as has been stated oh so very many times before, is a terrible idea. It's trying to breathe water while not being a fish terrible. Trying to fly off a cliff without wings bad. Trying to inhale hard vacuum. That sort of thing. It's not your fault, really, you're just the latest in a LONG LONG line of people who have proposed something like this, and those of us who know, and understand why it's such a bad idea, are really very sick and tired of having to reiterate these points about once every two weeks when another special snowflake comes up with this new and interesting never been heard of before idea.
Here's a litmus test for this idea:
1. Does my idea involve acquiring skill points at a rate of faster than allowed by actively training the skills 2. Does my idea involve putting those skill points into some kind of generic holding pen to be assigned as I wish later?
If the answer to either #1 or #2 is Yes, then you have committed the logical fallacy of Not having read the previous threads on this subject.
tl;dr (warning, not polite) **** off. This is a **** idea, and you should feel bad for having it. Please unsub like you mean it and biomass your characters. You would feel more at home playing WOW. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
533
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Posted - 2014.06.11 14:01:00 -
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No.
No the last time.
No the time before that.
No the umpteen times before that.
The skill system in EvE works, it is reasonably fair and as far as I know can't be exploited or gamed. This would just add a massively exploitable element to the skill system. On top of that it really does not address the majority of the standing objections that exist to changing the skill system in this or a similar manner.
Not supported.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
6
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Posted - 2014.06.11 14:26:00 -
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Please no, if anything like this happens it will force me to find my very first eve account that I quit after the trial period cause it will be the one with the most sp max and I wouldn't be able to play with anything less.
also define max sp rate? is this the rate at which you could of gotten sp with a neutral map, a focused remap or a focused remap and +5 implants.
Also NO go away |
Thorr VonAsgard
Never Surrender.
9
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Posted - 2014.06.11 14:40:00 -
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And all the gates will be open for "pay to train".
Buying a 120M SP char, flushing it to add his LP to a 100M SP char and you have a 220M SP ALL V SubCap char by simply using money....
Obiously NOPE ! |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
944
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Posted - 2014.06.11 15:56:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Yolo wrote:No Nej +ä+º jo geen +++¦ he+º bir ez aª¿aª+ ne -+-¦ Dili neniu ei hindi aucun non -î-ç+¦ ßâÉßâáßâÉßâáßâÿßâí a¬òa½ïa¬ê Pa gen Ba +£+É añ¿añ¦aÑÇañé tsis mba tidak Uimh Nei püäpüäpüê Ana +º+Ö+Ö+ƒ a¦ça¦¦a¦ìa¦¦ ßPé߃ÆßPÿßP¦ßPô µùá täí 8òädïê ne a¦Üa+ìa+êa¦ía¦¦ n-ô Nru añ¿añ+añ¦aÑÇ
This is a quality post, +1.
Anyway - what he said. "Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Elusive Panda
Gendry's Leech Eternal Pretorian Alliance
25
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Posted - 2014.06.11 16:18:00 -
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No. EVE progression is already perfect at is it, don't add gimmick to it. |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:00:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Bal'Ayle wrote:could you please stop spamming No in multiple languages please. its the quivalent of a large blank post and makes it hard to read the discussion. Would you prefer my brand of roleplay racism? [rp] this is what happens when you teach Sebiestor's to read. seriously people , learn how to supess a culture properly or stay out of the ******* slave trade [/rp] Quote:. I am willing to listen and discuss.
then you should have been willing to read one of the many other threads about this topic.
Thank you for this, I actually quite liked your roleplay racism :D I miss that part of eve~
And while I agree there are a LOT of posts about it, I still disagree that it is not a strait up purchase of SP - And I genuinely feel there is merit in the Idea < I read a LOT of the posts and couldn't see and direct collation except its is in eve, revolves around SP and involves a cost.
So far everyone has said no on principle that it boils down to increasing SP outside the training cue, If this is the sole argument against it (on a principle only basis) I can understand that as a reason to deny the mechanics as anything other then a clever way to fascilitate it.
I find it a bit hard to believe No one out there see's any merit in being able to make up for lost time training due to the inability to afford a sub or spend time ingame. Is that really too much to ask for as a feature?
Or does peoples dislike of this particular idea (unless someone claiming thousands of other posts to the same effect can actually prove to me this exact method / idea has come up with a quote to the post.) stem from the rightly placed resistance of P2W in EVE>? |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:03:00 -
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Thorr VonAsgard wrote:And all the gates will be open for "pay to train".
Buying a 120M SP char, flushing it to add his LP to a 100M SP char and you have a 220M SP ALL V SubCap char by simply using money....
Obiously NOPE !
Your either Illiterate or didn't understand the mechanics of my suggestion.
If that 100M SP character were to do that he would one, have to be old enough to already have trained that many skill points, urgo him having the SP is no advantage over what he would of already been capable off had he constantly subbed,
And two, that much SP would cost so much in Plex it wouldn't be economical to raise a character by that much.
I was thinking this better suited the character who missed 3-8m Sp training oveer a 6 year sub thru missing odd months and would biomass an alt he bought/trained/owned to give the character the missed training back.
PS: Also well aware that I cannot type clearly, cleanly or with correct grammar or spelling but he clearly didn't/ couldn't read my OP/subsequent replies hence the illiteracy jibe. |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:06:00 -
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Lady Rift wrote:Please no, if anything like this happens it will force me to find my very first eve account that I quit after the trial period cause it will be the one with the most sp max and I wouldn't be able to play with anything less.
also define max sp rate? is this the rate at which you could of gotten sp with a neutral map, a focused remap or a focused remap and +5 implants.
Also NO go away
That is a fair comment, and correct I left open the SP rate, I was hoping for more of a discussion on the topic to be honest.
I would myself suggest a neutral map so as to reduce to potential of SP gained. |
Bal'Ayle
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:10:00 -
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Samillian wrote:No.
No the last time.
No the time before that.
No the umpteen times before that.
The skill system in EvE works, it is reasonably fair and as far as I know can't be exploited or gamed. This would just add a massively exploitable element to the skill system. On top of that it really does not address the majority of the standing objections that exist to changing the skill system in this or a similar manner.
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Please refer me to the umpteen times, I did a fair bit of research to mainly the negative sides to try and counteract some, and as my idea did not relate directly to other suggestions made this post. If this was in error please link me and accept my apologies but I will not ditch the topic on indirect insistence this existed before. My opening lines were regarding research on this topic. Please educate me, I do not claim to be perfect perhaps I missed something?
You claim my idea could be massively exploitable please elaborate? I would like an opportunity to develop the idea further but again I am not perfect what loop hole did I miss ^_^
So far you guys have been relatively great and pointing out problems with this but I feel I have addressed them fairly.
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