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Captain Jack Rackam
Neptune Trident
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:10:00 -
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Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it. I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships. However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.
So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps! |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
217
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:11:00 -
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Captain Jack Rackam wrote:Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it. I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships. However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.
So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!
sounds like it is working as intended. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
689
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:16:00 -
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Eat a **** farmer. nom nom
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Douglas Nolm
Minmatar Secret Service Ushra'Khan
78
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:17:00 -
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Yep, sounds just right to me. Hope this thread will fill with more farmer tears! |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
500
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:20:00 -
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I only subbed after reading a simular thread. Proud Member of 'The HotPocket' Crew. What It's Like in Militia Chat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYm3ig7tak |
Red Khalmer
Tribal Opposition
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:27:00 -
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Disagree totally with OP, I think its working great. I really like what they did to the plexes. If you are going to take medium you should bring your friends or a bigger ship than a frigate.
The Farmer tears has been plenty and its great to see. Now we just need to nerf the main ISK source for the Farmers which is the Missions. Faction warfare is going in the right direction and im overjoyed about it! |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
278
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:34:00 -
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Captain Jack Rackam wrote:Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it. I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships. However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.
So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps! Mission Status: Accomplished. |
Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:56:00 -
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The funny part is that you're just wrong, too.
Many frigates can take care of the medium rat ) |
Carlatto
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.12 19:10:00 -
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Captain Jack Rackam wrote:Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it. I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships. However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.
So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!
Get your skills up son! |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.12 19:12:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM |
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.06.12 22:07:00 -
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Stop plexing in a stabbed ship son. On a side note CCP forgot to mention that they buffed the rats in addition to increasing the spawn rate. Empress Jamyl that rat DPS nearly melted me in a fight. |
GavinGoodrich
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.06.12 23:09:00 -
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OMG so happy to see the tears and the changes yay Haaaaaalp my head's on fire |
Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.13 00:18:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote:Captain Jack Rackam wrote:Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it. I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships. However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.
So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps! Mission Status: Accomplished.
Word.
OP, you should protest by biomassing. That will get their attention!
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
238
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Posted - 2014.06.13 05:14:00 -
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Try training actual skills on your alt, and stop fitting stabs. Problem fixed. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:05:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
397
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:12:00 -
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ISD Ezwal this whole thread is a big troll.
The FW plex changes were put out months in advance. The changes were made available on the Test Server. So either the OP is trolling or he just can't be bothered to read some of the excellent dev blogs or other forum posts about this. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.06.13 17:17:00 -
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Trolling a troll is prohibited? Bummer :( nom nom
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Shelom Severasse
Elite Kombat Academy
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Posted - 2014.06.15 03:46:00 -
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Captain Jack Rackam wrote:Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it. I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships. However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.
So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps! i can kill the medium npc with a frig. idk what you are talking about |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2676
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:42:00 -
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stick with the right plex size for your ship. Mediums where never intended to be soloed by a single frig. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Anne Dieu-leveut
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.17 22:20:00 -
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Still feel that if you take your frig in a novice plex with the intention to do a 1vs1 solo pvp session, these pesky frigates are to hard to kill (read : I lose to much shield to feel confortable to take a fight right after killing the NCP) and on top of that they seem to respawn far to quickly (bringing down my shields again). In frigate PvP it counts.
I had more PvP fun before the patch and I couldn't care about the cloakers really |
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Zenoidan
Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:34:00 -
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The change is stupid and it has turned FW into Pve.
You will kill so many rats before you get a fight or the timer runs out it feels like I am a mission runner. Seriously.
You will need a back up ammo hauler. Not lying.
No more fun t1 support frigs flying around. They cant handle the novice rats optimally. Just because you can kill 1 of these rats does not mean you have the staying power to kill the next 12. You will be at half armor and no shields by the timer the timer ticks or you get someone to fight.
No one wants this bullshit. The system is AWFUL. Its not working as intended because if it was it would not be deterring solo pvp. Right now no one wants to sit in an offensive plex only to be added on by a rat during the fight. Thats bullshit. This is a PVP mechanic, not PVE and right now you get more PVE than PVP.
How the **** is that working as intended.
Fact is if you are not in FW you do not know how awful this change is and you are in no way relevant to the conversation. |
Zenoidan
Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:40:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:stick with the right plex size for your ship. Mediums where never intended to be soloed by a single frig.
This is the dumbest comment I have ever heard. Most T1 frigs CAN NOT solo the novice plex effectively anymore. Dont believe me? Try it. Tell me how you far and what ship you tried.
There are only 3-4 optimal t1 frigs for novice plexes now.
But your right. Thats working as intended... |
Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:43:00 -
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I'm in FW and the changes are fine , but we could decrease npc dps a little bit and increase their tank a little bit so rats would be irrelevant in pvp ( no dps against/for you) just a timer blocker.
and ( i know i reapeat my self ^^) juste deny acces to the plex if WCS are fitted , increase LP won when you kill a ship to make it more profitable to kill people than stay in a plex.
RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |
Bado Sten
Republican Guard
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Posted - 2014.06.18 08:11:00 -
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It's working great, but one change might possibly improve it for PVP.
If there are militia capsuleer ships in the plex from the same faction, then the navy ships will not engage any opposing capsuleers. They will prefer to sit back and let the militia duke it out, rather than to risk their own lives.
If no defending capsuleers are there, then they will have to earn their pay and defend as they do now.
That should improve the situation for attacking soloers, and even make sense to the storyline. If an attacker put an alt from defending faction in the plex to stop the npc aggression, then that will also stop the timer. |
Endeveren Erata
State Protectorate Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.06.18 10:25:00 -
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Red Khalmer wrote:Disagree totally with OP, I think its working great. I really like what they did to the plexes. If you are going to take medium you should bring your friends or a bigger ship than a frigate. The Farmer tears has been plenty and its great to see. Now we just need to nerf the main ISK source for the Farmers which is the Missions. Faction warfare is going in the right direction and im overjoyed about it!
Except all it's done is make catalysts the new farmer of choice while locking out tons of other potentially fun pvp fits. They should have just made it so stabbed people couldn't activate the gate or something. |
Artuard Envien
The North Capsuleers The North is Coming
3
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Posted - 2014.06.18 10:48:00 -
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Zenoidan wrote:The change is stupid and it has turned FW into Pve.
You will kill so many rats before you get a fight or the timer runs out it feels like I am a mission runner. Seriously.
You will need a back up ammo hauler. Not lying.
No more fun t1 support frigs flying around. They cant handle the novice rats optimally. Just because you can kill 1 of these rats does not mean you have the staying power to kill the next 12. You will be at half armor and no shields by the timer the timer ticks or you get someone to fight.
No one wants this bullshit. The system is AWFUL. Its not working as intended because if it was it would not be deterring solo pvp. Right now no one wants to sit in an offensive plex only to be added on by a rat during the fight. Thats bullshit. This is a PVP mechanic, not PVE and right now you get more PVE than PVP.
How the **** is that working as intended.
Fact is if you are not in FW you do not know how awful this change is and you are in no way relevant to the conversation.
This is to some extent true, if slightly exaggerated. Medium plexes can be done with a silly slicer on a 500m orbit with conflagration. Problem is somewhere else :
I have almost half of the pvp I had before Kronos INSIDE plexes. It's easier to defend than attack plexes now. Thanks God for the pies/neutrals that visit often and care little about rats inside plexes or there would no no fights at all. With that being said I like the fact that I have to undock my cruisers for medium and large plexes. I suppose lowering the dps on rats would help balance things out.
Also, honestly what's the issue with WCS? In my hangar i have several dual scram taranis and atrons and a astero to deal with this type of players. CCP gave our pray some tools to have fun, it's our turn to outsmart them. Stop crying to ban WCS in plexes as that is killing the sandbox mkay? |
RonPaul Rox
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.19 03:33:00 -
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so im sitting in a novice in kinakka and 2 reds warp in. a rat immediately respawns. they chase me 300k of the beacon, the rat chases me and shoots me the entire 300k. one of them warps out and the other goes back to the beacon. i kill the rat and start burning back to the beacon. BEFORE I GET THERE ANOTHER RAT RESPAWNS. lol great job CCP |
Luscar Seneca
Elysian. Heiian Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2014.06.24 04:13:00 -
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I fought a worm in my hawk. Popped him with 20% structure left and no dmg ctrl. Picked my loot, started to type gf in local.. rat appeared at the beginning of that fight.. forgot about him and killed me! Lol.. so funny. As im podding back home I notice my lossmail was 50m isk more than it shoulda been. Quickly hopped in a crow and picked up that navy web or whatever it was.
Moral of the story. Do not **** around! Kill the rat asap, bring the deeps.
Honestly the changes are good. The guys that disagree need to change their attitude and likely stop using kitey condors. |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
150
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Posted - 2014.06.24 06:21:00 -
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Get a navy comet. Brawler fit.
enough DPS to run novice,small, med and you can defend yourself against other frigs.
Merlin might work as well. Or if you want to go fancy a Worm or Daredevil.
Regarding the changes..
Yes it kinda backfired since the Warzones are changing even slower now as O-plexing is the most annoying f**ks**t to do. The farmers stay with D-plexing because it allows them to keep farming while at tier 3-4 they still make more than enough LP to make the defensive farming worth it.
CCP actually buffed farming instead of nerfing it. http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
369
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Posted - 2014.06.24 08:58:00 -
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not true ; check the thread about the vPs, and the state of the systems contestation prover the opposite.
So the changes are good just need the last touch and it will be perfect. RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |
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