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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
648
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:47:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Xuixien wrote:I really doubt many people "quit" over getting suicide ganked, TBH. Such comments are just a thinly veiled attempt to be "spiteful". Oh. Xuixien. Don't you realize how facts can dampen a perfectly good tantrum??? I love how the CODE "declaration to end all declaratives" sort of slips in this is a game to shoot spaceships, so let's get back to shooting spaceships...as though all this MINING, and MANUFACTURING and MARKETING (he obviously has nothing invested in) are just minor appendages - useless window dressing. THEREFORE, everyone doing these aren't REALLY playing EVE, right? Right. There you go. The piggy repaints the barn for us. Isn't that "CODE" for passive-aggressively claiming the game shouldn't be changed, except for the useless ... what was that term ... CAREBEAR part... uh huh. He's bold. He's brash. He's full of it. Those activities are useful to fit spaceships, that then need to blow up or else those busy people would be out of business. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3014
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:51:00 -
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Suicide ganking has not become a problem. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
844
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:51:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Not jsut spiteful, they are bascially trying to "appeal to CCPs wallet" to get CCP to change something they dislike (well, dislike enough to post about but not enough to act on using already existing in-game tools and tactics).
The reason that kind of fallacious appeal always fails is because it doesn't take into account the opposite: creating a situation where the thing they don't like (in this case, ganking) would also cause the 'sub loss' they claim to fear. They don't actually care about CCPs wallet because if all the gankers quit they'd be happy, even though that would hurt CCP.
As a pvp player who likes to push pirate ships around high sec a lot, I'm a bored ganker target lol. The difference between me and the people whining in this thread is that I understand Im playing an 'adversarial' game and people are supposed to try to 'get' you, and half the game for me is continuing to save the screwall Damsel while the other half is denying the 'gankers' the 'Jenn aSide's Machariel' killmail they desire. I came here to say this, but quoting it is fine too I guess. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:59:00 -
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Noragli wrote: It's stupid that concord would allow this to happen.
No, it's stupid that players allow this to happen.
High sec needs less NPC intervention, not more. All it has done is train most highsec players to turtle up in a station instead of undocking en masse to **** down the necks of whatever it is outside that's scaring them. There's times to stay docked; when you outnumber the bad man 30 to 1 is not it. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
419
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:59:00 -
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Ugh. How is this thread still going?
Someone please kill it. Kill it with fire so I can Psssssssshhhhh all over it. Turrents |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
5
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:00:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:loyalanon wrote:Fifth - CCP gave changes to Freighters so that people can fit tanks etc, If you still choose to autopilot with no cargo and expanded cargoholds, that just goes to show how much you pay attention to anything. The Reenforced bulkhead mods are less then a mil each. x3 would definitly help you keep your beloved ships.
Check our killboard, 90% of freighters still refuse to fit tanks. I know I would want to protect my investment why don't you? Looking at the kills didn't really fill me with faith in a tank alone saving anything. At least 2 freighters with low cargo values with 3 bulkheads died. Elsewhere I'm sure some triple cargo expanded freighter probably AP'd it's way uneventfully to it's destination. The key seemed to be flying somewhere other than Aufay. As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec). |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10469
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:02:00 -
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I approve of CODE's ganking. I don't approve of their smug and irritating roleplay. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1671
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:03:00 -
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infra52x wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:I've done a lot of ganking along the Jita pipe with a nado and recently moved to ganking mission runners with a fleet of thrashers. Ganking is difficult Ganking mission runners required no skill right after the MTU was added to the game.... All you had to do was aggro the MTU while the mission runner had his drone out.... This was patched in Rubicon 1.1 for you whiners, or didn't you know?
Quote:Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target.
Carmen is talking about ganking now, not pre-Rubicon 1.1.
.. when everything else is gone .. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
27230
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:04:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:You do that every time, view the past via rose colored glasses (liek how you used to say that ganking wasn't a thing in the past, when it obviously was). A simple glance at EVE online would show you that what you are saying isn't true.
No, I never said that. Nice of you to try and twist things around to justify your skewed view of reality ..... again. What I said was it wasn't as prevalent back then as it is now.
Obviously you need to clean your glasses and take a look at the stats yourself.
Currently online: 26,112 Health: ok Max (24h): 39,514 (2014-06-16 19:27:47) Version: 8.45.797363 - EVE-TRANQUILITY@ccp Current record: 65,303 (2013-05-05 19:09:04) IP: 87.237.38.200
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Funny thing is the graph doesn't show the peek records for amount of users logged in, one of which is listed above. However what it does show is that on 1-6-2011 there was 36,430 players logged in with the next big amount on 6-6-2013 with 36,252 players logged in.
So yeah, please continue posting your own version of the facts. Eventually someone will believe you.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:05:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote: As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec).
**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1207
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:05:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:loyalanon wrote:Fifth - CCP gave changes to Freighters so that people can fit tanks etc, If you still choose to autopilot with no cargo and expanded cargoholds, that just goes to show how much you pay attention to anything. The Reenforced bulkhead mods are less then a mil each. x3 would definitly help you keep your beloved ships.
Check our killboard, 90% of freighters still refuse to fit tanks. I know I would want to protect my investment why don't you? Looking at the kills didn't really fill me with faith in a tank alone saving anything. At least 2 freighters with low cargo values with 3 bulkheads died. Elsewhere I'm sure some triple cargo expanded freighter probably AP'd it's way uneventfully to it's destination. The key seemed to be flying somewhere other than Aufay. As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec). Or just wait for the blockade to go inactive or use a smaller hauler or as stated, be somewhere other than Aufay. There really is no need to pay anyone. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
836
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:06:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:I really doubt many people "quit" over getting suicide ganked, TBH. Such comments are just a thinly veiled attempt to be "spiteful".
If it becomes a regular thing people with freighter alts running for services like Red Frog may unsub the alts and find another source of income but thats about it.
I personally see suicide ganking in highsec as a glorified form of PvE not PvP - particularly since the ship you are fighting is actually on autopilot, but that is neither here nor there, its all part of the game. |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
111
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:08:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec).
**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing.
hahahaha
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:09:00 -
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John E Normus wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec).
**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing. hahahaha
CODE. is a pretty funny joke, I agree.
If you people would get on with the ganking and stop with the stupid ass RP posturing, we'd all be better off. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Paranoid Loyd
683
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:18:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:John E Normus wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec).
**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing. hahahaha CODE. is a pretty funny joke, I agree. If you people would get on with the ganking and stop with the stupid ass RP posturing, we'd all be better off.
Whether you agree with it or not, this "RP posturing" is what gives them their strength and unity. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
836
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:20:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:John E Normus wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec).
**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing. hahahaha CODE. is a pretty funny joke, I agree. If you people would get on with the ganking and stop with the stupid ass RP posturing, we'd all be better off.
The RP is necessary to get around the CCP restriction on griefing. New Order is a griefing organisation and without the RP and the silly demands for miniscule amounts of money they would not be allowed to function.
However with the RP and money demands it all becomes legit and hence a valid part of the game. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6756
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:28:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:
No, I never said that. Nice of you to try and twist things around to justify your skewed view of reality ..... again. What I said was it wasn't as prevalent back then as it is now.
Now you're just lying. . Damn that internet and it's ability to preserve things!
You dishonest is well known already, but don't let that stop you.
Quote:Obviously you need to clean your glasses and take a look at the stats yourself. Currently online: 26,112 Health: ok Max (24h): 39,514 (2014-06-16 19:27:47) Version: 8.45.797363 - EVE-TRANQUILITY@ccp Current record: 65,303 (2013-05-05 19:09:04) IP: 87.237.38.200 http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquilityFunny thing is the graph doesn't show the peek records for amount of users logged in, one of which is listed above. However what it does show is that on 1-6-2011 there was 36,430 players logged in with the next big amount on 6-6-2013 with 36,252 players logged in. So yeah, please continue posting your own version of the facts. Eventually someone will believe you. DMC
Go ahead and show everyone where 60k players was a constant thing for more than 2 hours every few months.
More than once you posted this version of the 'glorious past' that does not and has nto ever existed. See the link to your own post if you 'forgot'. While searching for that post (wasn't hard , took 30 seconds) I notice a couple dozen more. Would you like me to post your own words again to demonstate you loose association with reality and the truth, or is that one post enough? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7149
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:30:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: Would you like me to post your own words again to demonstate you loose association with reality and the truth, or is that one post enough?
I for one, would be very interested to see just how much of a liar he is. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:30:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:
The RP is necessary to get around the CCP restriction on griefing. New Order is a griefing organisation and without the RP and the silly demands for miniscule amounts of money they would not be allowed to function.
However with the RP and money demands it all becomes legit and hence a valid part of the game.
This is nonsense and we both know it. CCP's 'case by case basis' makes all such assertions invalid. They're not 'getting around' anything with their RP. A player can RP to their heart's content and still be guilty of griefing and harassment. What CODE. does is either griefing or it is not, regardless of RP. All the RP allows is for the risk averse griefer in highsec to spend his time bumping and being a jackass, and leave the dirty work to others in the organization. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1004
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:31:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Noragli wrote: It used to be just the freighters carrying too high value cargo that were targetted, but now, even empty ships are targetted.
I personally don't care if changes are made to fix this or not. It doesn't affect me directly, I do not use frieghters or other high value ships. This is just an observation I made, a line was crossed when they started targetting empty ships just for the sake of it. Is it time for change?
Now its freighters who have not purchased permits and are in violation of The New Halaima Code of Conduct. There is a profit motive: the sale of permits. Sounds like some darn fine emergent game play to me. Emergent? Really? This hasn't been done before?
You know a game that relies on players to create content is in trouble when rehashed gameplay gets called the overused "emergent". This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
10170
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:33:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:John E Normus wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec).
**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing. hahahaha CODE. is a pretty funny joke, I agree. If you people would get on with the ganking and stop with the stupid ass RP posturing, we'd all be better off. Whether you agree with it or not, this "RP posturing" is what gives them their strength and unity. Yup. Heaven forbid any creativity in EVE extending beyond the clicking of buttons.
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Spectral Tiger
5
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:33:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Why is it suddenly 'beyond the pale' for empty freighters to be ganked?
First, if I was going to lose a freighter - I'd hope it was empty.
Second, do carebears really think there exists some kind of ''unspoken" rule that empty freighters should not be ganked? And if they are ganked - it requires CCP take action?
Empty freighters being ganked.
There's obviously no isk gain for the gank, which means the reasons seem on the face of it just for griefing. Are the relationships between PvE style players and PvP style players really that bad these days? |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:34:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote: Emergent? Really? This hasn't been done before?
You know a game that relies on players to create content is in trouble when rehashed gameplay gets called the overused "emergent".
Don't **** on their parade too much. They like calling extortion by a different name; makes them feel inventive. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
514
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:35:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Why is it suddenly 'beyond the pale' for empty freighters to be ganked?
First, if I was going to lose a freighter - I'd hope it was empty.
Second, do carebears really think there exists some kind of ''unspoken" rule that empty freighters should not be ganked? And if they are ganked - it requires CCP take action? Empty freighters being ganked. There's obviously no isk gain for the gank, which means the reasons seem on the face of it just for griefing. Are the relationships between PvE style players and PvP style players really that bad these days?
You get a killmail with 10-digits on it What more do you need? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1866
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:36:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing. AFK is the ultimate form of ignoring others in the game.
Doesn't change the outcome, but those killed because they were too lazy to actually play the game while undocked, can at least take satisfaction that they ignored the gankers. That learned them.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:38:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote: That learned them.
Hopefully it did. Because paying someone to ostensibly leave you alone never taught anyone anything worth learning. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Spectral Tiger
5
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:38:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Why is it suddenly 'beyond the pale' for empty freighters to be ganked?
First, if I was going to lose a freighter - I'd hope it was empty.
Second, do carebears really think there exists some kind of ''unspoken" rule that empty freighters should not be ganked? And if they are ganked - it requires CCP take action? Empty freighters being ganked. There's obviously no isk gain for the gank, which means the reasons seem on the face of it just for griefing. Are the relationships between PvE style players and PvP style players really that bad these days? You get a killmail with 10-digits on it What more do you need?
Personally I couldn't careless about kill mails, they're one of the worst things that ever happened to PvP. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7149
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:42:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Why is it suddenly 'beyond the pale' for empty freighters to be ganked?
First, if I was going to lose a freighter - I'd hope it was empty.
Second, do carebears really think there exists some kind of ''unspoken" rule that empty freighters should not be ganked? And if they are ganked - it requires CCP take action? Empty freighters being ganked. There's obviously no isk gain for the gank, which means the reasons seem on the face of it just for griefing. Are the relationships between PvE style players and PvP style players really that bad these days?
Since when is "because I can" not good enough in a sandbox game?
Freighters are allowed to die, you realize. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Spectral Tiger
5
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:48:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Why is it suddenly 'beyond the pale' for empty freighters to be ganked?
First, if I was going to lose a freighter - I'd hope it was empty.
Second, do carebears really think there exists some kind of ''unspoken" rule that empty freighters should not be ganked? And if they are ganked - it requires CCP take action? Empty freighters being ganked. There's obviously no isk gain for the gank, which means the reasons seem on the face of it just for griefing. Are the relationships between PvE style players and PvP style players really that bad these days? Since when is "because I can" not good enough in a sandbox game? Freighters are allowed to die, you realize.
'because I can' that's bit of a weak argument, and that isn't the real reason as there's always another reason behind that one. I guess it could be farming useless kill mails, but I suspect it's more than just that. |
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
20
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:48:00 -
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Pretty simple and many will disagree:
negative 5 to 10, can not use a 0.5 or higher gate. Can not access High even in a pod
BEEP DONE!
If your caught recycling alts, all accounts related to your "real name" are banned.
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