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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:02:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lets go over todays Iteron V bad choices. Firstly, he chose an iteron V to haul near 400 million in cargo. This was mistake number one, he picked the wrong ship for the job or if thats all he could fly, he chose to not make several trips. Second mistake is the lack of a tank. Just look at that, not a single tanking mod to be seen and worse yet, the mods he did fit all reduce the tank. This is the classical anti-tank fit. Third mistake, he was AFK. A sin all to common among haulers and miners alike. Fourth mistake, he was on autopilot. Now by itself its not a bad tool, however when you are in an anti-tanked t1 hauler with 400 mil in the bay it is just asking for trouble. This haulers choices are what caused his death, the ganker just happened to be in the right place at the right time and got lucky.
His first mistake was to play a broken POS game like EVE where aggressors have all the advantages. His only crime was not knowing everything about the game.
Its normal the the victims of suicide gankers are newer players who do not understand such things are possible. The question remains whether he will unsub or not now. Certainly not worth the cost of fueling the entitlement of the common suicide ganker. These are the types of players that suicide gankers prey on out of fear of real pvp. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6809
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:03:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: Suicide ganking is completely broken in terms of penalty and risk vs reward.
How so?
If you want people to agree who don't already, you need to support this statement. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4502
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:04:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
You have it arse backwards, my friend. It's not up to CCP to do for you what you can do for yourself with equal access to the same tools that everybody else has.
Right, but it IS CCPs job to make the game less of a broken, imbalanced joke of a pvp game that it currently is. Suicide ganking is completely broken in terms of penalty and risk vs reward. Ridiculous to think everything in EVE is as it should be. Nay, the game is constantly being fixed to rid us of horribly imbalanced mechanics like suicide ganking. There once were many derpy clowns saying the same thing about can flipping that you are now saying about suicide ganking. Tough, no, eve isn't fair, it's not supposed to be. Suicide ganking brings an edgy fear to the atmosphere in eve and ro take that away would be an absolute tragedy.
Stop being a massive vagina and deal with it.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3877
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:07:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Gankers only have themselves to blame, groups like C.O.D.E. don't help the situation they just bring the issues to the attention of those that can make the changes. CCP runs a business and groups like C.O.D.E. can undermine that business, CCP doesn't want to stop such behaviour as it part of the game, but the more something starts to get out of hand the more the company will have to bring in new controls to keep it under control.
i contend that ccp created a game where it's intended that players are able to do what would in any other game be mean things to each other. i'd say that given that premise, a player who comes in and demands that other players not be allowed to do mean things is the player that is trying to 'undermine ccp's business', if that's even a thing.
Solecist Project wrote:Is it really necessary that all this is being kept up?
not necessary, just mildly amusing. there are worse reasons to do things
regarding 'victim blaming', this is a real thing in real life and is rightfully criticised. a computer game isn't real life though, a computer game is designed to challenge you and penalise the errors you make. 'losing' a game doesn't affect your real life. we don't cry 'victim blaming!' when a keeper's criticised for failing his duty keeping the ball out of the goal. the keeper is not a victim. they've simply been bettered in an ultimately inconsequential game due to their own faults, their opponent's virtues, or a combination of both. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20628
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:08:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lets go over todays Iteron V bad choices. Firstly, he chose an iteron V to haul near 400 million in cargo. This was mistake number one, he picked the wrong ship for the job or if thats all he could fly, he chose to not make several trips. Second mistake is the lack of a tank. Just look at that, not a single tanking mod to be seen and worse yet, the mods he did fit all reduce the tank. This is the classical anti-tank fit. Third mistake, he was AFK. A sin all to common among haulers and miners alike. Fourth mistake, he was on autopilot. Now by itself its not a bad tool, however when you are in an anti-tanked t1 hauler with 400 mil in the bay it is just asking for trouble. This haulers choices are what caused his death, the ganker just happened to be in the right place at the right time and got lucky. His first mistake was to play a broken POS game like EVE where aggressors have all the advantages. His only crime was not knowing everything about the game. Its normal the the victims of suicide gankers are newer players who do not understand such things are possible. The question remains whether he will unsub or not now. Certainly not worth the cost of fueling the entitlement of the common suicide ganker. These are the types of players that suicide gankers prey on out of fear of real pvp. That "newer" player you're referring to is an 8 year old account. Try harder.
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
9701
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:09:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
You have it arse backwards, my friend. It's not up to CCP to do for you what you can do for yourself with equal access to the same tools that everybody else has.
Right, but it IS CCPs job to make the game less of a broken, imbalanced joke of a pvp game that it currently is. Suicide ganking is completely broken in terms of penalty and risk vs reward. Ridiculous to think everything in EVE is as it should be. Nay, the game is constantly being fixed to rid us of horribly imbalanced mechanics like suicide ganking. There once were many derpy clowns saying the same thing about can flipping that you are now saying about suicide ganking. Although you are using an npc alt ...
It's not like you have no point in some ways, but I believe your perspective lacks experience.
I'll jump in.
Yesterday, to the horror of some people, I was ganking mining barges and an Orca with CODE.
It proved my point about what I keep saying. They're gameplay is boring and disconnected from people and it's actually no fun at all. Sitting in station all the time until a scout finds a target and then sitting in station because of GCC.
I realised long ago that THIS is the actual imbalance. I choose to play differently, warping around on grid and sitting outside in my pod with GCC
THAT creates far more content and gives people the feeling they can do something. People try to catch both my ship and my pod and I sportcommentate in local about it.
The imbalance comes from the fact that people do not perceive a choice of doing something, because too many gankers do not actually play the game. Seriously.
The most playing was done by DJEntropy himself, who scouted for targets.
It was, by far, the most boring ganking activity I ever was part of.
This is, in sum, the reason for a perceived imbalance.
Please note that I do not have anything against people playing the game and that DJEntropy himself invited me himself to this ganking squad.
If he did it again and if I had to play in this boring way again, then I will decline, because it's no fun at all.
90% of the time no one played, people were afk and nothing was happening.
For years I am telling that this creates an imbalance that will hurt the game eventually.
Thank you for your attention. - Please people, keep it on topic and above all Sibyyl! - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369657 When ppl think it's fun to respond to HATE, all they show ... is their own. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12925
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:14:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lets go over todays Iteron V bad choices. Firstly, he chose an iteron V to haul near 400 million in cargo. This was mistake number one, he picked the wrong ship for the job or if thats all he could fly, he chose to not make several trips. Second mistake is the lack of a tank. Just look at that, not a single tanking mod to be seen and worse yet, the mods he did fit all reduce the tank. This is the classical anti-tank fit. Third mistake, he was AFK. A sin all to common among haulers and miners alike. Fourth mistake, he was on autopilot. Now by itself its not a bad tool, however when you are in an anti-tanked t1 hauler with 400 mil in the bay it is just asking for trouble. This haulers choices are what caused his death, the ganker just happened to be in the right place at the right time and got lucky. His first mistake was to play a broken POS game like EVE where aggressors have all the advantages. His only crime was not knowing everything about the game. Its normal the the victims of suicide gankers are newer players who do not understand such things are possible. The question remains whether he will unsub or not now. Certainly not worth the cost of fueling the entitlement of the common suicide ganker. These are the types of players that suicide gankers prey on out of fear of real pvp.
Now he knows not to do that. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
9702
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:19:00 -
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"real PvP"
A biased opinion showing that the person only has selfish interests and does not really understand what PvP means.
Didn't we have that twenty pages ago? - Please people, keep it on topic and above all Sibyyl! - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369657 When ppl think it's fun to respond to HATE, all they show ... is their own. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1673
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:20:00 -
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The only problem with suicide ganking is that there's too little of it. Epic Space Cat |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4342
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:26:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
You have it arse backwards, my friend. It's not up to CCP to do for you what you can do for yourself with equal access to the same tools that everybody else has.
it is CCPs job to make the game less of a broken, imbalanced joke of a pvp game that it currently is. Suicide ganking is completely broken in terms of penalty and risk vs reward. Ridiculous to think everything in EVE is as it should be. Nay, the game is constantly being fixed to rid us of horribly imbalanced mechanics like suicide ganking. There once were many derpy clowns saying the same thing about can flipping that you are now saying about suicide ganking.
It would be if it was broken as you assert that it is. Alas, you are mistaken, and ganking is simple to mitigate. It just takes effort. Try some maybe.
Suicide ganking is working as intended. You want it gone, that is, you're not interested in EVE, you're interested in another game entirely. Go play that instead of trying to change the one so many of us are obviously handling better than you. EVE is, after all, not for everyone. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:33:00 -
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One question I have is, Why do suicide gankers feel entitled sit on a gate in high sec and wait around for a fat juicy noob to come hauling his entire worth? Not pvp, but merely preying upon the unaware in a complex game, abusing game mechanics to victimize people within the comfort of high sec.
Why should suicide gankers get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward? And why should these risk-averse players who are afraid of real pvp continue to be allowed to abuse newer players whose only crime is not being familiar with concord response times?
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Nitchiu
EVE University Ivy League
21
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:36:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
You have it arse backwards, my friend. It's not up to CCP to do for you what you can do for yourself with equal access to the same tools that everybody else has.
it is CCPs job to make the game less of a broken, imbalanced joke of a pvp game that it currently is. Suicide ganking is completely broken in terms of penalty and risk vs reward. Ridiculous to think everything in EVE is as it should be. Nay, the game is constantly being fixed to rid us of horribly imbalanced mechanics like suicide ganking. There once were many derpy clowns saying the same thing about can flipping that you are now saying about suicide ganking.
You keep repeating this and I keep repeating that if the risk and cost of suicide ganking was as low as you keep pretending there would be dozens of ganker organizations all over high sec. There are not and the only organization there is has hundreds of billions in funding from various people. They don't even make their money from ganking but from having someone write about it. But you keep ignoring my comments and pretending that you are right.
Your right about one thing it is CCPs job to make the game less broken. Only it's broken in making ganking too hard. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6809
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:36:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:One question I have is, Why do suicide gankers feel entitled sit on a gate in high sec and wait around for a fat juicy noob to come hauling his entire worth? Because they are Space Pirates, and Space Piracy is an advertised possible profession in this game?
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Why should suicide gankers get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward?
Again, in what way do they? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12927
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:37:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:One question I have is, Why do suicide gankers feel entitled sit on a gate in high sec and wait around for a fat juicy noob to come hauling his entire worth? Not pvp, but merely preying upon the unaware in a complex game, abusing game mechanics to victimize people within the comfort of high sec.
Why should suicide gankers get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward? And why should these risk-averse players who are afraid of real pvp continue to be allowed to abuse newer players whose only crime is not being familiar with concord response times?
Why do you feel entitaled to be exempt from pvp in a pvp game? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
9703
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:38:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:One question I have is, Why do suicide gankers feel entitled sit on a gate in high sec and wait around for a fat juicy noob to come hauling his entire worth? Not pvp, but merely preying upon the unaware in a complex game, abusing game mechanics to victimize people within the comfort of high sec.
Why should suicide gankers get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward? And why should these risk-averse players who are afraid of real pvp continue to be allowed to abuse newer players whose only crime is not being familiar with concord response times?
Until you understand what PvP means, there really is no point discussion about this with you.
You need to get your facts straight first and drop the bias.
Thank you! - Please people, keep it on topic and above all Sibyyl! - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369657 When ppl think it's fun to respond to HATE, all they show ... is their own. |
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:43:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:One question I have is, Why do suicide gankers feel entitled sit on a gate in high sec and wait around for a fat juicy noob to come hauling his entire worth? Not pvp, but merely preying upon the unaware in a complex game, abusing game mechanics to victimize people within the comfort of high sec.
Why should suicide gankers get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward? And why should these risk-averse players who are afraid of real pvp continue to be allowed to abuse newer players whose only crime is not being familiar with concord response times?
Why do you feel entitaled to be exempt from pvp in a pvp game?
Suicide ganking isn't pvp. In pvp, both players know that they are in the game. Suicide ganking is preying upon the unaware, the noobs, the casuals. Abusing game mechanics that aren't easily understood.
Suicide gankers do what they do because they are afraid of real pvp where they might have to risk something and where people will shoot back at them.
The victim-blaming mentality has become first nature to these entitled suicide gankers who will tell themselves anything to deny the obvious. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12927
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:50:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Suicide ganking isn't pvp.
Oh so the people we blow up are infact NPCs?
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: Suicide gankers do what they do because they are afraid of real pvp where they might have to risk something and where people will shoot back at them.
So how about the fact that the very kill you quoted was from a member of GSF, the people who risked several TRILLION in ships in one battle.
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: The victim-blaming mentality has become first nature to these entitled suicide gankers who will tell themselves anything to deny the obvious.
Who else is to blame for them fitting an anti-tank on a t1 hauler and stuffing 400 mil in the bay and then autopiloting while AFK? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
9705
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:50:00 -
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PvP means Player vs. Player.
Is this just an alt of the other person who lacks understanding and is clouded by bias?
Pointless. - Please people, keep it on topic and above all Sibyyl! - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369657 When ppl think it's fun to respond to HATE, all they show ... is their own. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24312
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:51:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:it is CCPs job to make the game less of a broken, imbalanced joke of a pvp game that it currently is. How is it broken or imbalanced?
Quote:Suicide ganking is completely broken in terms of penalty and risk vs reward. In what way?
Quote:One question I have is, Why do suicide gankers feel entitled sit on a gate in high sec and wait around for a fat juicy noob to come hauling his entire worth? Not pvp, but merely preying upon the unaware in a complex game, abusing game mechanics to victimize people within the comfort of high sec. Why wouldn't they be? And how is it not PvP? Are you saying that they only kill bots, and if so, why are you so upset about it?
Quote:Why should suicide gankers get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward? They don't.
Quote:And why should these risk-averse players who are afraid of real pvp continue to be allowed to abuse newer players whose only crime is not being familiar with concord response times? Do you have any evidence to support that any of that is actually happening? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4342
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:52:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:One question I have is, Why do suicide gankers feel entitled sit on a gate in high sec and wait around for a fat juicy noob to come hauling his entire worth? Not pvp, but merely preying upon the unaware in a complex game, abusing game mechanics to victimize people within the comfort of high sec.
Why should suicide gankers get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward? And why should these risk-averse players who are afraid of real pvp continue to be allowed to abuse newer players whose only crime is not being familiar with concord response times?
One question I have is, why do haulers/miners feel entitled to protections that they put no effort towards themselves? Why should they get special treatment when it comes to risk vs reward? Without gankers, there is no risk to haulers. That's the bottom line. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12927
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:53:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:PvP means Player vs. Player.
Is this just an alt of the other person who lacks understanding and is clouded by bias?
Pointless.
Its Fab Rob. He got his other alts (6 or something) banned after abusing people in the pirate rebalance thread. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of Eden
15
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:54:00 -
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The fact that CODE is making an industry out of blowing up empty freighters (at a loss), bumping ships to allow for multiple waves of ganks, and doing it all quite comfortably with -10 sec status, shows that something is seriously broken here. Ganking for profit - great, I'm 100% in support (I used to check out the combat kills for the starter corp to see some guys gank wreathes with 1 bil + in cargo). But that's not what CODE is doing, they are ganking just to cause tears, and often doing so at a loss. They don't care to bring up their suicide status between ganks (as profit/loss oriented gankers do), rather they are happy to be career criminals who do nothing other than ganking. The fact that there is no serious punishment for this is absurd. Personally I think anyone with -5 sec status or below should draw faction police within 5 seconds, forcing them to go to low/null and raise their sec status before operating in empire. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6809
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:56:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:The fact that CODE is making an industry out of blowing up empty freighters (at a loss), bumping ships to allow for multiple waves of ganks, and doing it all quite comfortably with -10 sec status, shows that something is seriously broken here. Ganking for profit - great, I'm 100% in support (I used to check out the combat kills for the starter corp to see some guys gank wreathes with 1 bil + in cargo). But that's not what CODE is doing, they are ganking just to cause tears, and often doing so at a loss. They don't care to bring up their suicide status between ganks (as profit/loss oriented gankers do), rather they are happy to be career criminals who do nothing other than ganking. The fact that there is no serious punishment for this is absurd. Personally I think anyone with -5 sec status or below should draw faction police within 5 seconds, forcing them to go to low/null and raise their sec status before operating in empire.
Isk and Tears are the only possible intentions in any activity in an MMORPG?
Fascinating point of view. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24313
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Posted - 2014.09.01 16:02:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:The fact that CODE is making an industry out of blowing up empty freighters (at a loss), bumping ships to allow for multiple waves of ganks, and doing it all quite comfortably with -10 sec status, shows that something is seriously broken here. No, it really doesn't. it just shows that enough people enjoy ships blowing up that they're willing to sponsor an effort to that effect.
Quote:But that's not what CODE is doing, they are ganking just to cause tears, and often doing so at a loss. Actually (and shh, because this is secret!), they do it to earn ISK. =ƒÖè I suppose there might be some epeen involved as well, but the mighty ISK sure is powerful.
Quote:They don't care to bring up their suicide status between ganks (as profit/loss oriented gankers do), rather they are happy to be career criminals who do nothing other than ganking. The fact that there is no serious punishment for this is absurd. Except that there is a serious punishment for them. You just refuse to mete it out for some odd reason. By doing that, you lose all rights to complain about their lack of punishment. You willingly gave them carte blanche to keep doing it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Torneach Structor
Showup Fleet
51
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Posted - 2014.09.01 16:07:00 -
[3745] - Quote
Why is this still being debated?
Stuff goes boom all the time.
Just roll with the punches and adapt. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of Eden
15
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Posted - 2014.09.01 16:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:The fact that CODE is making an industry out of blowing up empty freighters (at a loss), bumping ships to allow for multiple waves of ganks, and doing it all quite comfortably with -10 sec status, shows that something is seriously broken here. No, it really doesn't. it just shows that enough people enjoy ships blowing up that they're willing to sponsor an effort to that effect. Quote:But that's not what CODE is doing, they are ganking just to cause tears, and often doing so at a loss. Actually (and shh, because this is secret!), they do it to earn ISK. =ƒÖè I suppose there might be some epeen involved as well, but the mighty ISK sure is powerful. Quote:They don't care to bring up their suicide status between ganks (as profit/loss oriented gankers do), rather they are happy to be career criminals who do nothing other than ganking. The fact that there is no serious punishment for this is absurd. Except that there is a serious punishment for them. You just refuse to mete it out for some odd reason. By doing that, you lose all rights to complain about their lack of punishment. You willingly gave them carte blanche to keep doing it.
Not sure what you are trying to say.....the fact is that CODE is blowing up empty ships. People who are looking to make ISK don't do that - they blow up ships with cargo in then. The reason they do so (as you can ascertain from CODE bios, from hanging out in Uedama, or from reading their blog) is to evoke an emotional reaction from their target (colloquially referred to as "tears.") There is no real opportunity to shoot them....they hang out in dockup, have their scout find a target on the gate, abuse the bumping mechanic to pin the target down, undock and instantly warp to the gate and start shooting. This, as opposed to the legitimate suicide gankers, is pure griefing, especially when used to target completely empty ships. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of Eden
15
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Posted - 2014.09.01 16:10:00 -
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Torneach Structor wrote:Why is this still being debated?
Stuff goes boom all the time.
Just roll with the punches and adapt.
It's being debated because CCP actually listens, intelligently analyzes the situation, and makes appropriate adjustments to the game. See Freighter changes. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3878
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Posted - 2014.09.01 16:11:00 -
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Torneach Structor wrote:Why is this still being debated? the word 'debate' suggests reason is involved somewhere
so in answer: it's not |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3878
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Posted - 2014.09.01 16:12:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:It's being debated because CCP actually listens, intelligently analyzes the situation, and makes appropriate adjustments to the game. See Freighter changes.
the freighter nerf was appropriate adjustment reached through intelligent analysis?
... i agree |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24313
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Posted - 2014.09.01 16:13:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Not sure what you are trying to say.....the fact is that CODE is blowing up empty ships. And there is nothing wrong or broken about that, nor does it mean they aren't making ISK from it.
Quote:The reason they do so (as you can ascertain from CODE bios, from hanging out in Uedama, or from reading their blog) is to evoke an emotional reaction from their target (colloquially referred to as "tears.") GǪand earn ISK. Tears just makes the grind a bit funnier.
Quote:abuse the bumping mechanic to pin the target down, undock and instantly warp to the gate and start shooting. This, as opposed to the legitimate suicide gankers, is pure griefing, especially when used to target completely empty ships. Nope. It's just your average mediocre blockade. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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