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Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:11:00 -
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Azure Rayl wrote:Quote:Before complaining about miners and anti-gankers being rude, they should take a look at mirror, otherwise the local filth in high sec will just get worse. This, i mean seriously hypocrisy is off the charts.
No, this is a hasty generalisation. While I can agree that loyalanon can be a bit of a pissant at times, I've never encountered more bile from anyone other than carebear miners and haulers, one of which dox'd me, and name-dropped family members in a threatening email to my private account, due to butthurt over a wardec where I single-handedly crushed most of the corp in the space of an afternoon, forcing me to remove my real-life identity from the internet altogether, making certain things about my real life a little more complicated.
I've never heard of a ganker doing this. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:14:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Azure Rayl wrote:Quote:Before complaining about miners and anti-gankers being rude, they should take a look at mirror, otherwise the local filth in high sec will just get worse. This, i mean seriously hypocrisy is off the charts. No, this is a hasty generalisation. While I can agree that loyalanon can be a bit of a pissant at times, I've never encountered more bile from anyone other than carebear miners and haulers, one of which dox'd me, and name-dropped family members in a threatening email to my private account, due to butthurt over a wardec where I single-handedly crushed most of the corp in the space of an afternoon, forcing me to remove my real-life identity from the internet altogether, making certain things about my real life a little more complicated. I've never heard of a ganker doing this.
because they're too busy laughing at threads like this. |
Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
54
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:34:00 -
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Azure Rayl wrote:Quote:Before complaining about miners and anti-gankers being rude, they should take a look at mirror, otherwise the local filth in high sec will just get worse. This, i mean seriously hypocrisy is off the charts. If you looked at my previous posts, you'd see how I notice the attitude problem on miners too, and I agree that miners are generally more rude compared to gankers.
I am trying to pull your attention to the fact that there are attitude problems on both sides, not just miners. To realize this, you actually need to spend some long time in HS and see how awful the situation is. No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2410
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:46:00 -
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Azov Rassau wrote:Azure Rayl wrote:Quote:Before complaining about miners and anti-gankers being rude, they should take a look at mirror, otherwise the local filth in high sec will just get worse. This, i mean seriously hypocrisy is off the charts. If you looked at my previous posts, you'd see how I notice the attitude problem on miners too, and I agree that miners are generally more rude compared to gankers. I am trying to pull your attention to the fact that there are attitude problems on both sides, not just miners. To realize this, you actually need to spend some long time in HS and see how awful the situation is. I agree.
There are weak mnds on both sides of the equation.
The carebear side has those who take offense when their ego bubble is popped and rage death threats, about their nullsec alliance friends and whatever else.
The ganker side is less sick minded, but has lots of inflated egos too, too much smug and an equal amount of chestbeating weak minds.
While I'm certain that CODE will improve over time, ... maybe if they learn that proper PR is actually a thing ... ... without mistaking fans and donators as successfull PR ... ... I have no reason to believe that the hating carebears will ever stop coming.
They won't. People are daft.
And here I think the best course of action is to simply get rid of them by force.
The amount of **** I had to read by these people makes me want to join CODE, just to make a point and to blow the freaking **** out of them. The hating carebears I mean. Forever. And it's good for the game as a whole too! The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5539
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:47:00 -
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Azure Rayl wrote:Stop talking about the war!
Azov Rassau wrote:You started it
Azure Rayl wrote:We did not start it!
Azov Rassau wrote:Yes you did, you invaded Poland
And scuffling breaks out "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5539
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:51:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: The amount of **** I had to read by these people makes me want to join CODE, just to make a point (I'm for hire for PR btw) and to blow the freaking **** out of them. The hating carebears. Forever. And it's good for the game as a whole too!
That's exactly how it happened for me and my crew, too
Except I didnt actually get around to joining, as such "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12059
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:54:00 -
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There is nothing as vile as carebear hatred. They make us look like angels when they open their mouths and they have a bad habit of taking in game actions out of game and harassing people. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2410
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:54:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote: The amount of **** I had to read by these people makes me want to join CODE, just to make a point (I'm for hire for PR btw) and to blow the freaking **** out of them. The hating carebears. Forever. And it's good for the game as a whole too!
That's exactly how it happened for me and my crew, too Except I didnt actually get around to joining, as such Aha. I had no idea you started suicide ganking.
Are you trying to seduce me? ;) The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2411
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:58:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:There is nothing as vile as carebear hatred. They make us look like angels when they open their mouths and they have a bad habit of taking in game actions out of game and harassing people. Carebears and, I almost forgot ... Brock Nelson. It's not ONLY carebears doing this... The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5541
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:58:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote: The amount of **** I had to read by these people makes me want to join CODE, just to make a point (I'm for hire for PR btw) and to blow the freaking **** out of them. The hating carebears. Forever. And it's good for the game as a whole too!
That's exactly how it happened for me and my crew, too Except I didnt actually get around to joining, as such Aha. I had no idea you started suicide ganking. Are you trying to seduce me? ;)
Im more of a sponsor to others who want to experience the thrill of actually doing something
My own PvP is rarely intentionally suicidal, but I think you know me well enough that it turns into that sometimes without choice in the matter lol "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
962
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:01:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:(post which will eventually get liquidated, along with every post quoting it - so not quoting it, take note ISD Heydrich when you chop another 20 pages off this thread.....)
Can't handle you? Really? You certainly sound wounded. I'd say you were already handled.
And I hardly know Loyal, but I'm not stupid enough to pretend that just 'anybody' can pile damage onto the carebear population of EVE like he has. While I am a 'semi-retired' ganker due to real life responsibilities, I enjoy watching others push the envelope further than I ever did. In a far less forgiving ganking environment, no less.....
While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience: When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.
That's how I measure success. Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears. Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.
To that end, he's accomplished more in two weeks than you've done in two years. Both solo and as an FC. Yet, laughably, you were the one claiming to be an "Eve terrorist".
Hey, maybe you win in the smacktalk category, or even the 'slagging-on-Concord-KMs' category?
You might as well blow that trumpet, seems like its all you got. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2411
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:02:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote: The amount of **** I had to read by these people makes me want to join CODE, just to make a point (I'm for hire for PR btw) and to blow the freaking **** out of them. The hating carebears. Forever. And it's good for the game as a whole too!
That's exactly how it happened for me and my crew, too Except I didnt actually get around to joining, as such Aha. I had no idea you started suicide ganking. Are you trying to seduce me? ;) Im more of a sponsor to others who want to experience the thrill of actually doing something My own PvP is rarely intentionally suicidal, but I think you know me well enough that it turns into that sometimes without choice in the matter lol Awww and I thought you're trying to hit on me... :/ The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5545
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:18:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Awww and I thought you're trying to hit on me... :/
Sorry hun, I dont swing that way
Well, not while sober, at any rate "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2413
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:22:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Awww and I thought you're trying to hit on me... :/
Sorry hun, I dont swing that way Well, not while sober, at any rate Try vherokior tea.
It opens the mind, besides other things. ;) The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Spectral Tiger
12
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:27:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote: While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience: When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.
That's how I measure success. Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears. Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place.
Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers.
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Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3485
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:30:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote: While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience: When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.
That's how I measure success. Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears. Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers.
If I had an isk for every time a carebear pretended to care about CCP's customer base, I'd own Goonswarm. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
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Soylent Jade
New Order Logistics CODE.
108
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:31:00 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote: By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD. It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!" It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.
Your idiotic Bin Laden comparison aside, CONCORD doesn't protect us. We can freely be shot at by anyone at anytime. L2EVE Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2413
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:31:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote: While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience: When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.
That's how I measure success. Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears. Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers. While I'm personally no fan of Wilkus, he's still right. Not all customers are wanted or good customers. If this is beyond your grasp, so be it. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2413
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:34:00 -
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Soylent Jade wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote: By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD. It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!" It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.
Your idiotic Bin Laden comparison aside, CONCORD doesn't protect us. We can freely be shot at by anyone at anytime. L2EVE Quoted for Truth.
And besides this... the bin ladens did this for decades. lol The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7303
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:37:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote: Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place.
You lot do not have moral equivalency with us.
There is no equating "makes death threats and vile sexual insults in local" and "likes to blow up the first group's spaceships." Nor is getting your spaceship blown up in a game about blowing up spaceships any kind of excuse for the vile behavior so typical of carebears. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5551
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:39:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers.
Uh, we are their customers
We pay subs like anyone, and we buy PLEX to go on the market for others to buy
It doesnt give anyone the right to call us the things we have been called, or the vitriol in regards to the deaths of players, family members, getting cancer, other diseases or "if I met you in RL..." threats "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Spectral Tiger
12
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:40:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote: While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience: When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.
That's how I measure success. Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears. Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers. While I'm personally no fan of Wilkus, he's still right. Not all customers are wanted or good customers. If this is beyond your grasp, so be it.
So the customers decided which players to drive out of the game, wonder what CCP thinks about that. If it was my company I'd be kind of concerned if that was happening.
Bad customers, that's up to CCP to decide not the players. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7303
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:40:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers.
Uh, we are their customers We pay subs like anyone, and we buy PLEX to go on the market for others to buy It doesnt give anyone the right to call us the things we have been called, or the vitriol in regards to the deaths of players, family members, getting cancer, other diseases or "if I met you in RL..." threats
Or sending people evemails with pictures of their own front door entitled "See Ya Soon".
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
711
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:44:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote: While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience: When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.
That's how I measure success. Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears. Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers. While I'm personally no fan of Wilkus, he's still right. Not all customers are wanted or good customers. If this is beyond your grasp, so be it. So the customers decided which players to drive out of the game, wonder what CCP thinks about that. If it was my company I'd be kind of concerned if that was happening. Bad customers, that's up to CCP to decide not the players. How could someone drive you out of the game just by blowing up your make-believe spaceship while playing within the rules? Unless, of course, you didn't really like the game or its rules in the first place. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19063
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:44:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:So the customers decided which players to drive out of the game, wonder what CCP thinks about that. If it was my company I'd be kind of concerned if that was happening.
Bad customers, that's up to CCP to decide not the players. I would hazard a guess that CCP decided what type of customer they want long ago, and designed the game with that in mind. If they wanted to attract the sort of customers that the mechanics drive away then they'd change the game to reflect that.
The fact that they haven't says a lot.
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Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3490
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:46:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote: While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience: When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.
That's how I measure success. Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears. Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers. While I'm personally no fan of Wilkus, he's still right. Not all customers are wanted or good customers. If this is beyond your grasp, so be it. So the customers decided which players to drive out of the game, wonder what CCP thinks about that. If it was my company I'd be kind of concerned if that was happening. Bad customers, that's up to CCP to decide not the players.
And CCP decided that given subs are still on the rise, and the sandbox nature of the game, that 'player-driven' is the way it will remain. It's not customers deciding, it's players. There is a difference. And if you think the vets of this game haven't gone through what new players are going through right now, you'd be mistaken. The difference is that the vets could cut it, and the quitters can't and were going to quit anyway. CCP accepts these losses because of the nature of the game. EVE isn't for everyone, but apparently it's for enough people to keep it going since 2003, longer than WoW.
Also, please keep pretending you care about CCP's customers. You're only fooling yourself. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
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Dave Stark
6405
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:48:00 -
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people are still using the "you're driving people away" bull ****, even though subs have been rising for a decade? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7304
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:49:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:people are still using the "you're driving people away" bullshit, even though subs have been rising for a decade?
Never let a good lie go to waste. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3490
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:53:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dave Stark wrote:people are still using the "you're driving people away" bullshit, even though subs have been rising for a decade? Never let a good lie go to waste.
What about a bad one? Cuz this is, consistently, a really bad one You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
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Spectral Tiger
12
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:53:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:
Well it's attitudes like yours, why there's so much bitching in the first place. Still, I'm sure CCP appreciates your efforts to get rid of their customers.
Uh, we are their customers We pay subs like anyone, and we buy PLEX to go on the market for others to buy It doesnt give anyone the right to call us the things we have been called, or the vitriol in regards to the deaths of players, family members, getting cancer, other diseases or "if I met you in RL..." threats
Agreed that shouldn't be happening, but again it's up to CCP to sort it out if it's happening in-game, not the players. I'm not sure how CCP would handle that but I suspect you should report it to them in any case if it's something that's originated in-game. |
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