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Spectral Tiger
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Posted - 2014.06.20 15:59:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote:
40 hours a week? That's nothing, I used to play from 12 - 16 hrs a day and I don't even use any add-ons, including illegal ones.
That.......explains way more about you than you think it does.
It certainly explains why I've had a lot of characters in 11 MMOs, as why I see them as fairly disposable. Used to level them too fast in other games. Also the reason I've changed games so often as I tend to get burnt out on them.
Since being back in EVE I'm not doing that, although I have been spending too much time on the forums, whereas in other MMO's I rarely visit the forums.
If you were to put all my gaming time together it would amount to around 14 years. Probably more towards the extreme end of gaming. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5575
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:02:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote: If you were to put all my gaming time together it would amount to around 14 years. Probably more towards the extreme end of gaming.
14 years is hardly extreme when it comes to this nerd sport we call video games
But it still hasnt answered any of the questions "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Spectral Tiger
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:08:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Spectral Tiger wrote: If you were to put all my gaming time together it would amount to around 14 years. Probably more towards the extreme end of gaming.
14 years is hardly extreme when it comes to this nerd sport we call video games
So 14 years of gaming, that's actual playing time, you don't think is extreme. Well I'm impressed there are people out there that have spent more time playing than I have. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5576
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:09:00 -
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Spectral Tiger wrote: So 14 years of gaming, that's actual playing time, you don't think is extreme. Well I'm impressed there are people out there that have spent more time playing than I have.
Not really
And you are now just ignoring the questions and derailing the thread.
Reported "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12063
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:37:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:I do agree that Carebears are a scourge to any game. At the same time they are in a no win situation. they are being forced by gankers into 0.7 - 1.0. to mine their ****.
Now do not get me wrong here. I respect a well organised gank, and believe me I have seen some impressive ganks. I think though that the greed over tank situation needs to be fixed. Greed should see a ibis blowing up a hulk, where as tank should offer some form of protection. off the top of my head, Warp scram immunity for no mining upgrades modules.
ATM there is no reason to tank anything because the Gank packs have grown larger. You get blown up reguardless. Especially in a 0.5 - 0.6 system
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:38:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:I do agree that Carebears are a scourge to any game. At the same time they are in a no win situation. they are being forced by gankers into 0.7 - 1.0. to mine their ****.
They've tried for years to turn the game into Trammel, to legislate the ganking playstyle out of existence.
If they're in a no win situation right now, good. They deserve it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1070
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:41:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Goldiiee wrote: You do know if it wasn't for the Carebears and their neverending requests for CCP provided content, you would be playing a game with 5000 people all of them docked up waiting for the blob to form.
You would have no juicy gank targets, no random PVP, very expensive T1 frigates, and forget about a T2 Cruiser or BS, no one would want to mine the ore in this utopian (For you) EVE.
So quit your bitching, wash a Valium down with a shot of Jack, park your cheap Nado ship on a .5 gate and gank one of the nice people that give you a game worth playing.
We have plenty of industrialists, miners and everything else. We can live without carebears. Carebears do not add anything to the game aside from endless whining to turn EVE into a clone of all the other MMOs. Personally I can't see any philosophical difference between a player that sits and watches red dots get blown up by a white dot and someone that sits on a gate scanning an endless stream of ship waiting to turn it into a red dot for them to blow up. Both are mind numbing exercises in an attempt to get more ISK to play more EVE, to get more ISK to pay more EVE, to get more ISK to play more EVE...
Yeah one is without a doubt the superior species of player, just can't tell from my Ivory tower, eyesight has gone to pot from shooting to many red dots.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6804
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:50:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Noragli wrote:
Exactly, ganking is part of the problem. When players are ganked relentlessly, in any game, a lot of them quit that game. EVE is no exception. Given enough time, players learn how to abuse systems. The systems are old and are being abused to the point that suicide ganking is done even to targets of no value, just for killmails and the hope that someone has an expensive pod full if implants.
The system needs an update to curb this behaviour.
It is highly desirable for certain types of players to quit the game. Ripard is one example. Carebears, generally, must be forced from the EVE Community - because the demands they make on CCP Devs take us incrementally further from the unique, awesome EVE I started playing years ago. They are an existential threat. Their whines and complaints have brought an endless string of dumbed down mechanics and nerfs to any playstyle that results in ships exploding in highsec - or bonus round contestants singing in TS. Even the forums have significantly declined, in essence becoming a CCP advertisement 'theme-park' - with the insane moderation policies that have appeared right about the time CCP Zymurgist was replaced by Falcon. Fanboy threads are given an immediate DEV seal of approval, while criticism is either locked, deleted or banished to the wasteland. Repeated Concord buffs have made ganking far more difficult than it ever has been in the past. However, this only motivated gankers to become far more organized, and return the favor by punishing those who clamored for more safety. I don't think its a coincidence that the New Order emerged shortly after CCP effectively exterminated HG V in 2012. CODE: just one more way to put the fun into fundamentalism. You do know if it wasn't for the Carebears and their neverending requests for CCP provided content, you would be playing a game with 5000 people all of them docked up waiting for the blob to form. You would have no juicy gank targets, no random PVP, very expensive T1 frigates, and forget about a T2 Cruiser or BS, no one would want to mine the ore in this utopian (For you) EVE. So quit your bitching, wash a Valium down with a shot of Jack, park your cheap Nado ship on a .5 gate and gank one of the nice people that give you a game worth playing.
Those aren't 'carebears' you are talking about. No one I know looks down on the industrialist, the 'at the keyboard' miner/mining foreman or whatever. I'm well known here for being PVE (exploration, incursions, missions) focused and no one I know of here would call me a 'carebear'.
'Carebearing' isn't an activity, it's a mindset,, an insidious, cancerous mindset.
One that says that "I am the center of the universe, I am all that matters, no one should be able to interfere with my acquisition of wealth even if my acquisition of wealth is detrimental to others, I should face no risk even when choosing to play a risky game, no one should be able to interact with me without my consent even in a game built on non-consensual interaction".
What tends to irk me about EVE's carebears is that. rather than choosing to play the 100s of carebear friendly games out there (which most of the MMO world is), they play EVE, hate it, and advocate for changing it.
It's like being in a room with 1 chess board and 100 checker boards and some people (rather than just playing checkers at one of the dozens of empty checkers tables) are clustered around the ONE Chess board screaming "play it like checkers!!!". |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2436
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:52:00 -
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lol I can't believe you people are falling for her. xD The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12063
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:52:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote: Personally I can't see any philosophical difference between a player that sits and watches red dots get blown up by a white dot and someone that sits on a gate scanning an endless stream of ship waiting to turn it into a red dot for them to blow up. Both are mind numbing exercises in an attempt to get more ISK to play more EVE, to get more ISK to pay more EVE, to get more ISK to play more EVE...
Yeah one is without a doubt the superior species of player, just can't tell from my Ivory tower, eyesight has gone to pot from shooting to many red dots.
See, people often mistake carebears as a term for all miners/indi ect players.
A carebear is infact, simply someone who is adverce to anything bad that happens to them. They are a minority who hate pvp in all forms or any mechanic that negetivly inpacts them and anychallange they face is something they think should be removed from the game. They refuce to adapt, they hate the idea of risk and any setback is gamebreaking to them.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12063
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:54:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:lol I can't believe you people are falling for her. xD
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2436
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:57:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Solecist Project wrote:lol I can't believe you people are falling for her. xD Alas, we have learned that even troll posts must be countered. Hm...
Yes, I remember... and you're right. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
533
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:04:00 -
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I was really invested in this thread, then lost interest when the mods took a machete to it. Now I don't feel like catching back up. ::sigh::
Grrr gankers
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19102
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:07:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: First sentence: Now I understand why you don't react to me. I had no idea you go "that" way.
That may well have come across wrong, by get behind I mean damn he posted something I agree with
Quote:Second sentence: What?? I'm an admirer of the female form, some of the sights you see when the weather is hot make me want to gouge my eyes out. Crimes against short skirts, hot pants and crop tops are inhumane
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2436
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:08:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Goldiiee wrote: Personally I can't see any philosophical difference between a player that sits and watches red dots get blown up by a white dot and someone that sits on a gate scanning an endless stream of ship waiting to turn it into a red dot for them to blow up. Both are mind numbing exercises in an attempt to get more ISK to play more EVE, to get more ISK to pay more EVE, to get more ISK to play more EVE...
Yeah one is without a doubt the superior species of player, just can't tell from my Ivory tower, eyesight has gone to pot from shooting to many red dots.
See, people often mistake carebears as a term for all miners/indi ect players. A carebear is infact, simply someone who is adverce to anything bad that happens to them. They are a minority who hate pvp in all forms or any mechanic that negetivly inpacts them and anychallange they face is something they think should be removed from the game. They refuce to adapt, they hate the idea of risk and any setback is gamebreaking to them. These are the people we hate. Let me help you out with a more insightfull description.
Carebears suffer from an inflated ego due to collecting fake achievements killing NPCs. They believe they are heroes (depends on the game) and have a completely fake self esteem.
They unknowingly sufer from the fact that most games out there make them feel like winners, which haunts them in a game where they are easily marked as the losers they are.
The reason they avoid people and combat lies in the fact that people can and probably will beat them, popping their inflated egos, as it forces them to realize that they aren't even half as good as they are made to believe they are.
That's why many of these rage so incredibly hard when they lose a ship to a player.
It forces them to see that all their fake self esteem is worth nothing. From their perspective, they are awesome, unfailable and nobody has the right to touch them.
I completely avoid these types of people IRL. Yes, they are spottable.
Wasn't as detailed as planned, maybe a bit weirdly written, but gets the point across. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2436
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:10:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Solecist Project wrote: First sentence: Now I understand why you don't react to me. I had no idea you go "that" way.
That may well have come across wrong, by get behind I mean damn he posted something I agree with Quote:Second sentence: What?? I'm an admirer of the female form, some of the sights you see when the weather is hot make me want to gouge my eyes out. Crimes against short skirts, hot pants and crop tops are inhumane Hm.
I agree.
Now admire me already. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19102
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:12:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Solecist Project wrote: First sentence: Now I understand why you don't react to me. I had no idea you go "that" way.
That may well have come across wrong, by get behind I mean damn he posted something I agree with Quote:Second sentence: What?? I'm an admirer of the female form, some of the sights you see when the weather is hot make me want to gouge my eyes out. Crimes against short skirts, hot pants and crop tops are inhumane Hm. I agree. Now admire me already. I can't all I see is your old characters portrait, with boobs, impressive boobs though.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
535
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:12:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Now admire me already.
I approve of your latest portrait updateGÇôgood taste in hairstyle! |
Radric Davids
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
86
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:18:00 -
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Please stop the entitled whining. Eve is not a themepark mmo where you can run around with 100% safety. Freighter pilots are not entitled to autopilot with impunity through 0.5 systems |
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
319
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:25:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Let me help you out with a more insightfull description.
Carebears suffer from an inflated ego due to collecting fake achievements killing NPCs. They believe they are heroes (depends on the game) and have a completely fake self esteem.
Some would argue that this could be said of gankers, where the "fake achievements" are killmails. Profit favors the prepared |
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6805
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:28:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Let me help you out with a more insightfull description.
Carebears suffer from an inflated ego due to collecting fake achievements killing NPCs. They believe they are heroes (depends on the game) and have a completely fake self esteem.
Some would argue that this could be said of gankers, where the "fake achievements" are killmails.
The 2 things (npc kills and player character killmails) would only be equivalent if CCP gave the NPCs enhanced AI to rage in local and send mail to the players who killed them threatening real life violence.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2438
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:28:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Let me help you out with a more insightfull description.
Carebears suffer from an inflated ego due to collecting fake achievements killing NPCs. They believe they are heroes (depends on the game) and have a completely fake self esteem.
Some would argue that this could be said of gankers, where the "fake achievements" are killmails. I don't disagree and there are a lot of gankbears out there too.
Why do you look so damn cute? This thread is full of nice looking ladies... *sighs* The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6805
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:29:00 -
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Radric Davids wrote:Please stop the entitled whining. Eve is not a themepark mmo where you can run around with 100% safety. Freighter pilots are not entitled to autopilot with impunity through 0.5 systems
But they think they want that.
When carebears tell you what they want from the game, give them this link and tell them "if what you said was true, you wouldn't be playing EVE .
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5436
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:33:00 -
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Noragli wrote:When you let one group of players mercilessly grief another set, you lose players.
It's obvious to anyone who looks at it with a clear mind. If players are not enjoying the game, they quit.
You have this certain group of players who spend all their days in empire space just suicide ganking other players because it's the only thing that gives them pleasure in the game any more. Many of the victims never saw it coming or even imagined it could happen, then suddenly their ship is dead and pod is killed by a group of up to 25 players in cheap destroyers. This "style" of playing the game no doubt costs EVE many subscriptions.
Can't you get ganked for no reason but "fun" even in WoW? You know, that hard core PvP game based on ganking and all...
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Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
540
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:34:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Some would argue that this could be said of gankers, where the "fake achievements" are killmails.
These are probably the same people who fit officer mods to subcaps, fit unbonused guns, mix buffer and active tank, etc.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7329
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:37:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Let me help you out with a more insightfull description.
Carebears suffer from an inflated ego due to collecting fake achievements killing NPCs. They believe they are heroes (depends on the game) and have a completely fake self esteem.
Some would argue that this could be said of gankers, where the "fake achievements" are killmails.
Some would argue that this is true of videogames in general.
But the kind of obsessive, aberrant behavior that causes people to vomit up incessant insults and death threats in local as soon as they see an alliance logo is mostly only found in carebears.
I've said it before, and it seems I shall have to say it again.
There is no moral equivalency here. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6806
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:39:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Evei Shard wrote:Some would argue that this could be said of gankers, where the "fake achievements" are killmails. These are probably the same people who fit officer mods to subcaps, fit unbonused guns, mix buffer and active tank, etc.
Wait, you're not supposed to do those things?
Damn, back to the drawing board. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5438
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: A carebear is infact, simply someone who is adverce to anything bad that happens to them. They are a minority who hate pvp in all forms or any mechanic that negetivly inpacts them and anychallange they face is something they think should be removed from the game. They refuce to adapt, they hate the idea of risk and any setback is gamebreaking to them.
These are the people we hate.
Your definition is excellent... but are you sure they are a "minority"? Because AFAIK they are like fat on the buttocks. Everyone hate it, most have a fair amount of it. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7329
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:43:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:baltec1 wrote: A carebear is infact, simply someone who is adverce to anything bad that happens to them. They are a minority who hate pvp in all forms or any mechanic that negetivly inpacts them and anychallange they face is something they think should be removed from the game. They refuce to adapt, they hate the idea of risk and any setback is gamebreaking to them.
These are the people we hate.
Your definition is excellent... but are you sure they are a "minority"? Because AFAIK they are like fat on the buttocks. Everyone hate it, most have a fair amount of it.
Don't confuse crying the most on the forums with having the most people. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Evei Shard
Shard Industries
320
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:45:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Why do you look so damn cute? This thread is full of nice looking ladies... *sighs*
It's the eye shadow.
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