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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3524
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:15:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:Tippia you are so mad it's not even funny anymore. Quit trying to troll people so hard because you're starting to derail the thread. Take a breath, read what the other person actually wrote on the forums, and then post an answer that actually has some thought and discussion in it. The world will be okay, just take a deep breath. yes tippia is boiling with absolute rage
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2014.07.04 09:06:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Yun Kuai wrote:Tippia you are so mad it's not even funny anymore. Quit trying to troll people so hard because you're starting to derail the thread. Take a breath, read what the other person actually wrote on the forums, and then post an answer that actually has some thought and discussion in it. The world will be okay, just take a deep breath. yes tippia is boiling with absolute rage please keep your emotions in better check
Tippia has always been fantastic at performing an exegesis on another persons posts
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12223
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Posted - 2014.07.04 09:06:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:Tippia wrote:[quote=malcovas Henderson] Quote:Quite simply that is the Gankers prey. They don't want to shoot combat ships. They want to shoot soft easy targets. GǪaaaand? Why do the gankers have to organise and go after a small selection of targets and the targets not organise at all? Just because the gankers pick among the targets that are available to them does not mean that the selection is ridiculously small and that this in and of itself highlights a massive imbalance. And no, playing that tanking your hull is not organising. Tanking your hull is fitting your ship. Absolutely no organisation is needed. Nice Pathetic try on the false equivocation though. Or waitGǪ no, it is nice, because when people start pulling out the fallacies like that, and like with the entire initial straw man, you already know where it's headed. Tippia you are so mad it's not even funny anymore. Quit trying to troll people so hard because you're starting to derail the thread. Take a breath, read what the other person actually wrote on the forums, and then post an answer that actually has some thought and discussion in it. The world will be okay, just take a deep breath. Now, to help you understand. Gankers don't have a small, minute target selection available to them through game-breaking mechanics. They limit their selection based on their own personal decisions: ISK. Why do you feel that catalyst are best option for ganking and that it should take 20-30 catalyst to gank an orca? It's ISK effieicent. Why do you feel that meta fit talos are effective in ganking large targets like freighters? It's ISK effieicent. If you are truly ganking people just to gank them, then finally let your balls drop and start flying 2.3k DPS vindicators and go gank those purple fit marauders running level 4's. Really gankers complain they can't easily kill someone who's put a lot of ISK into their ship using ships that are cheap and replaceable
Sure, lets spend several billion pointlessly to do the job of 20 t2 destroyers... Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:47:00 -
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Annette Nolen wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:That is an excellent question that I have wondered myself. For all I know Red Frog could be the ones doing the ganking or paying "protection" fees. I'm going to get in trouble for this, but... we are totally the puppet masters behind CODE ganking in Aufay. We killed Kennedy too. That's right. Use Red Frog... or else.
Well, you did the US a good deed. Teddy was bad for the country.
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Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:50:00 -
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actually, how easy it is to gank frieghters does not matter.
If a player has been in game long enough to fly freighters, he should know the means to survive.
The problem is ganking noobs, that's likely to kill the game. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19484
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Posted - 2014.07.04 11:07:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sure, lets spend several billion pointlessly to do the job of 20 t2 destroyers... That's the template for government spending
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
191
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Posted - 2014.07.04 11:09:00 -
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Aalysia Valkeiper wrote:actually, how easy it is to gank frieghters does not matter.
If a player has been in game long enough to fly freighters, he should know the means to survive.
The problem is ganking noobs, that's likely to kill the game.
I don't know. I was canflipped under a week old. Outraged and bemused I took back "MY" stuff. Needless to say I lost my ship. I am still playing.
I think some people know what they are getting into when starting EvE. Those that leave after first Gank are probably in the wrong game anyway.
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Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
63
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Posted - 2014.07.04 13:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Organic Lager wrote:
As someone who has also just recently tried suicide ganking what exactly did you find difficult about it?
I mean most of the missioners we ganked didn't even shoot back.
I can guarantee you that you put in a lot more effort than your targets did.
If the missioner did less then watch netflix for 40 minutes, while browsing reddit on his phone with his feet up and beer in one hand, while waiting for the wtm call. Then yes you are correct he did put in less effort then me.
Or do you mean in the actual 12 seconds of combat? Where i was free to fly into optimal, lock up my target, overheat and when the call was made push f1? You know what! You're right! I earned that 30m payday for that gruelling 40 minutes of netflix and 12 seconds of intense combat which actually made me put my beer down.
Did I mention this was with a week old character in a 5m ship?
No I don't think suicide ganking needs a buff, no I would not call the act of suicide ganking difficult, nor would i refer to a half dozen ships warping to a target to push f1 overly "organized"
Yes i would say it's in a good place based on sp required, isk investment and payout per hour in high sec.
It's probably a dwindling career path because it's boring and the pay is garbage, which seems about right for the required investment. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19486
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Posted - 2014.07.04 13:47:00 -
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Organic Lager wrote:baltec1 wrote:Organic Lager wrote:
As someone who has also just recently tried suicide ganking what exactly did you find difficult about it?
I mean most of the missioners we ganked didn't even shoot back.
I can guarantee you that you put in a lot more effort than your targets did. If the missioner did less then watch netflix for 40 minutes, while browsing reddit on his phone with his feet up and beer in one hand, while waiting for the wtm call. Then yes you are correct he did put in less effort then me. Or do you mean in the actual 12 seconds of combat? Where i was free to fly into optimal, lock up my target, overheat and when the call was made push f1? You know what! You're right! I earned that 30m payday for that gruelling 40 minutes of netflix and 12 seconds of intense combat which actually made me put my beer down. Did I mention this was with a week old character in a 5m ship? No I don't think suicide ganking needs a buff, no I would not call the act of suicide ganking difficult, nor would i refer to a half dozen ships warping to a target to push f1 overly "organized" Yes i would say it's in a good place based on sp required, isk investment and payout per hour in high sec. It's probably a dwindling career path because it's boring and the pay is garbage, which seems about right for the required investment.
The work in a suicide gank is the stuff that happens before the fleeting moments of combat, someone had to set up instas for any -10's in your fleet, scan down the mission runner, scan the fit to make sure enough DPS was on hand, make sure they had enough pilots to supply the DPS required etc.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
63
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Posted - 2014.07.04 14:31:00 -
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Duplicate please delete |
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Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
63
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Posted - 2014.07.04 14:32:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Organic Lager wrote:baltec1 wrote:Organic Lager wrote:
As someone who has also just recently tried suicide ganking what exactly did you find difficult about it?
I mean most of the missioners we ganked didn't even shoot back.
I can guarantee you that you put in a lot more effort than your targets did. If the missioner did less then watch netflix for 40 minutes, while browsing reddit on his phone with his feet up and beer in one hand, while waiting for the wtm call. Then yes you are correct he did put in less effort then me. Or do you mean in the actual 12 seconds of combat? Where i was free to fly into optimal, lock up my target, overheat and when the call was made push f1? You know what! You're right! I earned that 30m payday for that gruelling 40 minutes of netflix and 12 seconds of intense combat which actually made me put my beer down. Did I mention this was with a week old character in a 5m ship? No I don't think suicide ganking needs a buff, no I would not call the act of suicide ganking difficult, nor would i refer to a half dozen ships warping to a target to push f1 overly "organized" Yes i would say it's in a good place based on sp required, isk investment and payout per hour in high sec. It's probably a dwindling career path because it's boring and the pay is garbage, which seems about right for the required investment. The work in a suicide gank is the stuff that happens before the fleeting moments of combat, someone had to set up instas for any -10's in your fleet, scan down the mission runner, scan the fit to make sure enough DPS was on hand, make sure they had enough pilots to supply the DPS required etc.
Sure there are a couple things to set up but is 1 guy scanning a ship and doing some pretty easy math really "difficult"? 90% of the fleet doesn't even need to lift a finger.
baltec isn't wrong there was a ton more he could have done (they all could have done). Eg fit a dcu instead of 4 navy bcus, watch local chat to know we were about, over heat his hardeners, use dscan to see us coming and prep, christ's sake he could have at least shot back.
Mission runners already have to worry about incoming dps, managing cap, managing drones, mission triggers, mission items, webs/scrams/ewar in general, ship placement, transversal, range/falloff, etc. Does the fact that someone had to scan his fit and do some math, then scan him down really mean the ganker worked harder? Or that it was difficult? Or that some how they earned to right to catch him unprepared?
Ganking seems to be in a good place as far as balance goes, it punishes the stupid but isn't overly rewarding and given the risk invested in it that seems like a fair trade off. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22815
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Posted - 2014.07.04 14:37:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:Tippia you are so mad it's not even funny anymore. Quit trying to troll people so hard because you're starting to derail the thread. I have to start before I can quit, and I think you might have me confused with someone else if you believe that madness or anger (can't tell which you're referring to) is a factor.
Quote:Gankers don't have a small, minute target selection available to them through game-breaking mechanics. Yes they do, because guess what it is that determines what they can kill in the given timeframe and without an obscenely imbalanced amount of manpower thrown at the problem? What do you think it is that determines the cost and pay-out of a gank? And no-one has said that the mechanics in question are game-breaking, only that if there is any kind of imbalance involved, it is heavily in favour of the target.
So I guess you've earned the same answer: nice pathetic try on the straw man and ad hominem. Or waitGǪ no, it is nice, because when people start pulling out the fallacies like that, you already know where it's headed.
Quote:Really gankers complain they can't easily kill someone who's put a lot of ISK into their ship using ships that are cheap and replaceable Are they? And if they are, that sounds about right. Putting a lot of ISK into a ship is not a valid reason for it being difficult to kill with cheap ships. That line of thinking is, in fact, one of the most painfully obvious roads to complete imbalance. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1008
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Posted - 2014.07.04 15:34:00 -
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When you spend all your time defending things the way they are instead of thinking of ways to improve them, it is surely the end of times.
Keep blustering into the void. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19487
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Posted - 2014.07.04 15:56:00 -
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Organic Lager wrote: Mission runners already have to worry about incoming dps, managing cap, managing drones, mission triggers, mission items, webs/scrams/ewar in general, ship placement, transversal, range/falloff, etc.
All of which is very predictable, and extremely well documented. In a well fitted ship missions are trivial and require so little effort that people have written software that do them automatically*
If we're talking people that run missions in undersized ships for the challenge then yes they have more to worry about, your standard run of the mill missioner doesn't do that, they simply follow the "script"
Quote:Does the fact that someone had to scan his fit and do some math, then scan him down really mean the ganker worked harder? Yes, because missioners, myself included, are fed everything they need to know on a silver platter, gankers have to use their initiative, get their own intel and organise themselves.
Quote:Or that it was difficult? Try being an FC, try organising a gank fleet etc
Quote:Or that some how they earned to right to catch him unprepared? Planning, something the gankee often fails to do. If you're caught unprepared, it means you didn't plan well enough or use the tools at your disposal correctly. Last time someone tried to bait me into shooting at them in a mission space, I purposefully popped a trigger and dropped a Elite Frigate and Cruiser spawn on them, then warped out to let them deal with it.
Quote:Ganking seems to be in a good place as far as balance goes, it punishes the stupid but isn't overly rewarding and given the risk invested in it that seems like a fair trade off. Stupidity is infinite, as evidenced by the amount of people that fly into well known choke points blind. It doesn't get punished nearly enough, there's still a lot of it about.
*People who do this need to be terminated, in game, with extreme prejudice; then banned.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1377
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:01:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:When you spend all your time defending things the way they are instead of thinking of ways to improve them, it is surely the end of times.
People actually defend the ridiculously fast Concord response times? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:51:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Nexus Day wrote:When you spend all your time defending things the way they are instead of thinking of ways to improve them, it is surely the end of times. People actually defend the ridiculously fast Concord response times? Concord ships are so fast that they go to plaid when responding to a call out. It's the accidental by-product of spilling an order of Coffee and Donuts into the warp core of a confiscated Capsuleer ship, fitted with multiple active propulsion modules in violation of traffic reg:32 sect:B para:3, that was undergoing testing*
My unofficial source within Concord says that the unofficial word on the street about Concord response times is "Deal with it" .
unofficial Concord source wrote:Victims: If you can't be bothered to make the effort to be a difficult or undesirable target or to at least try and survive until Concord turns up then you should go back to flying newbships. Donut protection duty > wiping your bum for you duty. Gankers: Our killboard is greener than yours
*Testing may, or may not, have involved, a BBQ, beer, some exotic dancers in a hot tub, and a betting pool with the fastest lap of the constellation taking it all. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7051
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Posted - 2014.07.04 19:56:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:When you spend all your time defending things the way they are instead of thinking of ways to improve them, it is surely the end of times.
Keep blustering into the void.
That's extremly naive. Sometimes people realize that a situation is about as good as you could possibly expect, and changing it (without understanding that every change has potential negative consequneces) tends to make things worse, not better. This forum and the Features and Ideas one are chocked full of people that cannot grasp this concept at all. |
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
140
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:05:00 -
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Sorry to tell you but I do not believe CCP that they really investigate into alt recycling.
I just witnessed a freighter gank where around 15 catalysts flew in with nice standing. Considering the current gank rate, the fact that it is always the same Machariel pilot doing the freighter bumping, I have a hard time believing that they recruit a new set of 10-20 pilots for a gank.
If CCP would enforce their own rules gankers would fly in being cherry red like the baboon derrieres they are. This would allow preventive actions against this pest. Having to wait until they become criminals just makes it more difficult.
On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12238
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:10:00 -
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Altessa Post wrote:Sorry to tell you but I do not believe CCP that they really investigate into alt recycling.
I just witnessed a freighter gank where around 15 catalysts flew in with nice standing. Considering the current gank rate, the fact that it is always the same Machariel pilot doing the freighter bumping, I have a hard time believing that they recruit a new set of 10-20 pilots for a gank.
If CCP would enforce their own rules gankers would fly in being cherry red like the baboon derrieres they are. This would allow preventive actions against this pest. Having to wait until they become criminals just makes it more difficult.
If you think they are recycling then report them. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
971
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:17:00 -
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Altessa Post wrote:Sorry to tell you but I do not believe CCP that they really investigate into alt recycling.
I just witnessed a freighter gank where around 15 catalysts flew in with nice standing. Considering the current gank rate, the fact that it is always the same Machariel pilot doing the freighter bumping, I have a hard time believing that they recruit a new set of 10-20 pilots for a gank.
If CCP would enforce their own rules gankers would fly in being cherry red like the baboon derrieres they are. This would allow preventive actions against this pest. Having to wait until they become criminals just makes it more difficult. i'm sure just this epic whine thread got at least 100 legit new recruits. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22830
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:18:00 -
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Altessa Post wrote:Sorry to tell you but I do not believe CCP that they really investigate into alt recycling. Have you reported any?
Quote:I just witnessed a freighter gank where around 15 catalysts flew in with nice standing. Considering the current gank rate, the fact that it is always the same Machariel pilot doing the freighter bumping, I have a hard time believing that they recruit a new set of 10-20 pilots for a gank. GǪand the age of these 15 characters were? What do their kill history look like?
Because the ganking rate you point to is very very low; the ability to regain sec status is both universal and fairly quick; and that the cost and time required to build a useful gank alt is fairly high for what you get. So security status alone tells us little to nothing.
Quote:If CCP would enforce their own rules gankers would fly in being cherry red like the baboon derrieres they are. Not really, no. That would only happen if they couldn't be arsed to rebuild their sec staus between ganks, and they have plenty of time and opportunity to do that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
191
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
If you think they are recycling then report them.
I should imagine it is more a case of Disposable account. It takes what 3 weeks to create a gank char? That leaves a month if subbed that account. to go ganking. When sub runs out. stop using account and sub the next one.
Maybe it is too much tinfoil, but definitely a possibility. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19493
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:22:00 -
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Altessa Post wrote:Sorry to tell you but I do not believe CCP that they really investigate into alt recycling.
I just witnessed a freighter gank where around 15 catalysts flew in with nice standing. If you think that someone is recycling negative sec status alts, report them. Bear in mind that by not podding some gankers manage to keep their sec status pretty reasonable, others buy tags; some just stay at -10, because yarr!
Quote:Considering the current gank rate, the fact that it is always the same Machariel pilot doing the freighter bumping, I have a hard time believing that they recruit a new set of 10-20 pilots for a gank. What is the current gank rate? What would you consider to be an acceptable loss rate as a percentage? What is the percentage of freighter traffic, or miners for that matter, lost to suicide ganking?
Quote:If CCP would enforce their own rules gankers would fly in being cherry red like the baboon derrieres they are. This would allow preventive actions against this pest. Having to wait until they become criminals just makes it more difficult. Some gankers are already a shiny shade of red, you can even shoot at them. The others are the ones that have access to decent rats, buy tags or bored folks trying something new.
Sec status is there for a reason, it's for burning when you gank whinebears.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22830
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:28:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:I should imagine it is more a case of Disposable account. It takes what 3 weeks to create a gank char? That leaves a month if subbed that account. to go ganking. When sub runs out. stop using account and sub the next one.
Maybe it is too much tinfoil, but definitely a possibility. The simplest and most obvious argument against alt recycling (or disposable accounts) has always been that it simply doesn't serve any useful purpose. It's a whole lot of time and money to throw away for no real benefit GÇö even more so these days when you can just pay your way to non-red status.
Oh, and disposable accounts will get you just as banned (and eventually your card/steam/amazon details blacklisted), so that's probably an even worse idea than just recycling them. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
140
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:49:00 -
[1945] - Quote
The proposal to "report them" is silly. I do not have the data to prove a violation. In fact, it is impossible for me to prove a recycle. So, next time please try to suppress the Pavlovian urge of your culture ("You should sue them!").
I also do not like the speculation about what is illegal and how CCP goes against them. That is just guesswork. Until today, I did believe that alt recycling is not a common practice. Yet, after my observation in Niarja I have my doubt.
Can somebody from CCP comment whether you actually do investigate into alt recycling?
On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22831
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:58:00 -
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Altessa Post wrote:The proposal to "report them" is silly. I do not have the data to prove a violation. So don't come here and throw around accusations. Either you have enough to support your suspicion, in which case you have all you need to report them, or you don't, in which case you have nothing to bleat about.
Quote:Until today, I did believe that alt recycling is not a common practice. Yet, after my observation in Niarja I have my doubt. Why? Nothing of what you described shows any particular sign of recycling.
Quote:Can somebody from CCP comment whether you actually do investigate into alt recycling? Yes. Open a support ticket. Or, hell, just report the people you suspect and see what happens.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19493
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Posted - 2014.07.04 21:00:00 -
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Altessa Post wrote:The proposal to "report them" is silly. I do not have the data to prove a violation. In fact, it is impossible for me to prove a recycle. You may not have the data, but CCP do. Without a report they don't know where to look.
They know what characters belong to what account, can see if characters have been recycled with a negative sec status, IP address's and login times, they can link accounts to email and credit cards etc. In short they keep records on pretty much everything that concerns the game and its security.
Quote:I also do not like the speculation about what is illegal and how CCP goes against them. That is just guesswork. Until today, I did believe that alt recycling is not a common practice. Yet, after my observation in Niarja I have my doubt. No speculation involved, CCP have been very clear on their policies regarding the recycling of negative sec status alts. That it will get you a ban is why it's uncommon, despite what you may think.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12238
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Posted - 2014.07.04 21:03:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:baltec1 wrote:
If you think they are recycling then report them.
I should imagine it is more a case of Disposable account. It takes what 3 weeks to create a gank char? That leaves a month if subbed that account. to go ganking. When sub runs out. stop using account and sub the next one. Maybe it is too much tinfoil, but definitely a possibility.
And spend all of that time getting those skills back only to get all of your accounts banned when CCP drops the hammer. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7578
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Posted - 2014.07.04 21:05:00 -
[1949] - Quote
Altessa Post wrote:The proposal to "report them" is silly. I do not have the data to prove a violation. In fact, it is impossible for me to prove a recycle. So, next time please try to suppress the Pavlovian urge of your culture ("You should sue them!").
I also do not like the speculation about what is illegal and how CCP goes against them. That is just guesswork. Until today, I did believe that alt recycling is not a common practice. Yet, after my observation in Niarja I have my doubt.
Can somebody from CCP comment whether you actually do investigate into alt recycling?
Stop propagating the myth that this actually happens. You may not have data about it (and it says a lot about you that you're willing to accuse people of a perma ban offense knowing that you have no proof), but CCP does.
If you even suspect, then report them. Otherwise, shut it. You flapping your mouth and stomping your feet in false moral outrage about videogames is just pathetic. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Lady Areola Fappington
1969
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Posted - 2014.07.05 01:04:00 -
[1950] - Quote
Altessa Post wrote:The proposal to "report them" is silly. I do not have the data to prove a violation. In fact, it is impossible for me to prove a recycle. So, next time please try to suppress the Pavlovian urge of your culture ("You should sue them!").
I also do not like the speculation about what is illegal and how CCP goes against them. That is just guesswork. Until today, I did believe that alt recycling is not a common practice. Yet, after my observation in Niarja I have my doubt.
Can somebody from CCP comment whether you actually do investigate into alt recycling?
I doubt you'll get a response from CCP, but I can tell you first-hand that yeah, they'll get all up in your Kool-Aid at the suspicion of rolling disposable alts.
Without revealing too much of GM correspondence, before I started this account, I had an account with a lowsec pirate char. Decided to devote that acct to carebearing, biomassed the pirate toon, and rolled this account new for neg sec status funsies.
Ended up having a long chat with a nice GM about disposable negsec alts, and my intentions. I kinda got a "We'll be watching you!" vibe.
So yeah, you see a person rolling disposable accounts like that, report em. This thread officially has 25% more pssssssshhh than leading competitors. Scientology was not founded by I Ron Man. Bangladesh is not an 80s metal band. Peeking at ladiesGÇÖ butts is not a background check. Pot pie is legal in every state. |
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