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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.07 01:49:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote: Your last several posts in this thread show otherwise, but please continue on. I wouldn't want any facts to burst your personal protective bubble of ignorance.
Stick to making nothing happen in nullsec, plenty of people working on that in highsec already. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5453
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Posted - 2014.07.07 02:00:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: Your last several posts in this thread show otherwise, but please continue on. I wouldn't want any facts to burst your personal protective bubble of ignorance.
Stick to making nothing happen in nullsec, plenty of people working on that in highsec already.
I too, make random assumptions about people based on whatever I think is quirky. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
345
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:23:00 -
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This thread is still going lol!
71 pages of tears and counting, keep it up :) |
Blaze Haginen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.07 12:49:00 -
[2104] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AC1Ow_y250 |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
447
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Posted - 2014.07.07 12:59:00 -
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Blaze Haginen wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AC1Ow_y250 Nice video.
Anyway, the thread was originally about empty freighters 1 bil-30 days-5% loan available - collateral required: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352279 |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5978
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:25:00 -
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I take a week off, and this thread grows 20 pages and is still
"You"
"No, you"
"Your ma"
"Your ma's face"
"Your ma is your da"
"I quit, but I still win!"
"Etc"
"Etc +1" "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Solecist Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
3407
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:28:00 -
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Should I even bother reading through what I missed ... ... or is it as one can expect? http://Solecist.imgur.com Deeper Feelings Inc. --áWe make it feel real. ;) Hey CCP, what's wrong with the portraits? op success??
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5978
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:41:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Should I even bother reading through what I missed ... ... or is it as one can expect?
See my TL; DR above :) "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Toriessian
Helion Production Labs Independent Operators Consortium
245
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:46:00 -
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I should start flying freighters or ganking freighters. I have nothing to contribute to one of the better threadnaughts of the year. |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2473
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:48:00 -
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Toriessian wrote:I should start flying freighters or ganking freighters. I have nothing to contribute to one of the better threadnaughts of the year.
Just throw in a random "NO YOU!" and you'll be fine. MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
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Sodabro
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
270
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:50:00 -
[2111] - Quote
whoa |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5980
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:50:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Toriessian wrote:I should start flying freighters or ganking freighters. I have nothing to contribute to one of the better threadnaughts of the year. Just throw in a random "NO YOU!" and you'll be fine.
Pff that's just what someone who would agree/disagree would say
(delete as appropriate)
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Kal Murmur
Lazortits
0
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:51:00 -
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So just to summarize.. Highsec carebears should be spending far more time and effort while they carry out some of the most mind-numbingly boring tasks in Eve such as spending 3 hours flying a freighter or staring at an ice field until they go insane? Every high sec mining op should include the same precautions as a low sec roam but without any of the actual fun bits?
On top of which any new players to the game should immediately familiarize themselves with the entire range of Eve mechanics, check here and all major ganking forums, and generally fly like a vet before they undock, or else they deserve to just be killed endlessly?
The reason Highsec used to be (fairly) safe was because the rewards in Highsec are generally low. If someone wants to sit and mine Veldspar until their eyes bleed, then let them get on with it. Just remove all L4's/useful anomalies from highsec, so if carebears want to make ISK in any kind of efficient manner they have to start moving out into low/null. Making Highsec actively dangerous is just stupid, it's going to scare off new people and grind the small industrial corps into the dirt.
Please stop trying to make Eve a game where everyone plays the same, it's really boring. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5980
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:55:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:So just to summarize.. Highsec carebears should be spending far more time and effort while they carry out some of the most mind-numbingly boring tasks in Eve such as spending 3 hours flying a freighter or staring at an ice field until they go insane? Every high sec mining op should include the same precautions as a low sec roam but without any of the actual fun bits? .
Sorry whut
Please explain how flying manually takes MORE time than autopiloting?
How is mining safely ANYTHING like a roam?
Are you on crack?
What is the captial of Paris?
Is my dinner ready yet?
WHERE ARE MY KEYS?! "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2473
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:02:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kal Murmur wrote:So just to summarize.. Highsec carebears should be spending far more time and effort while they carry out some of the most mind-numbingly boring tasks in Eve such as spending 3 hours flying a freighter or staring at an ice field until they go insane? Every high sec mining op should include the same precautions as a low sec roam but without any of the actual fun bits? . Sorry whut Please explain how flying manually takes MORE time than autopiloting? How is mining safely ANYTHING like a roam? Are you on crack? What is the captial of Paris? Is my dinner ready yet? WHERE ARE MY KEYS?!
1. Flying manually obviously takes more time because they have to pay attention instead of randomly rickrolling people on the Hello Kitty Online forums. (Is rickrolling still a thing?). 2. Mining safely is like a roam because you'd have support ships and scouts and the ability to GTFO before things go too badly. 3. Not right now, but I can't speak for anyone else in the thread. 4. Paris, France or Paris, Texas? You need to be specific. 5. I burned it. Sorry. 6. In my pants. MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22953
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:05:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:So just to summarize.. Yes, that's a pretty accurate summary of the uninformed myths that some highseccers like to perpetuate, even though there's next to nothing in the game to suggest any of it would ever be true. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5983
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:07:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:1. Flying manually obviously takes more time because they have to pay attention instead of randomly rickrolling people on the Hello Kitty Online forums. (Is rickrolling still a thing?). 2. Mining safely is like a roam because you'd have support ships and scouts and the ability to GTFO before things go too badly. 3. Not right now, but I can't speak for anyone else in the thread. 4. Paris, France or Paris, Texas? You need to be specific. 5. I burned it. Sorry. 6. In my pants.
1. Apparently it is, yes. Though its SOOO annoying, especially to us old crones who were around when Rick was actually popular that stupid song was on the radio ALL. THE. TIME. 2. Pff next you will be sayin a roam needs scouts, support or even an FC! 3. I thought it was a requirement around here 4. Plaster of Paris 5. Thats ok, carbon is good for the bones 6. Ah they are your endowment? Ok, well Ill need em to get back in my CQ soon. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3545
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:15:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:So just to summarize.. Highsec carebears should be spending far more time and effort while they carry out some of the most mind-numbingly boring tasks in Eve such as spending 3 hours flying a freighter or staring at an ice field until they go insane? Every high sec mining op should include the same precautions as a low sec roam but without any of the actual fun bits? Highsec carebears should spend as much time and effort while they carry out the tasks they want to do as are necessary to complete the task without losing their ship, within the boundaries of the ingame rules. The members of any highsec mining op that gets ganked, after they did not include precautions that might have defended against that gank, do not deserve to complain.
Kal Murmur wrote:On top of which any new players to the game should immediately familiarize themselves with the entire range of Eve mechanics, check here and all major ganking forums, and generally fly like a vet before they undock, or else they deserve to just be killed endlessly?
New players are protected from the harsher parts of EVE Online while they're doing the tutorials. Each loss they suffer after that is a learning experience, as it is with every other player. They are treated as every other player in EVE Online is treated. And any player who plays poorly cannot expect to win against players who play well.
Kal Murmur wrote:The reason Highsec used to be (fairly) safe was because the rewards in Highsec are generally low. If someone wants to sit and mine Veldspar until their eyes bleed, then let them get on with it. Just remove all L4's/useful anomalies from highsec, so if carebears want to make ISK in any kind of efficient manner they have to start moving out into low/null. Making Highsec actively dangerous is just stupid, it's going to scare off new people and grind the small industrial corps into the dirt. No. Why would anyone want to force someone out of highsec if they don't want to leave? I don't see any evidence of people leaving because of the possibility of aggression in highsec. I do see a lot of people who enjoy doing level fours in highsec. I do see that most industry has been done in highsec, despite the existence of highsec aggression, for ten years. Not 'ground into the dirt'.
Kal Murmur wrote:Please stop trying to make Eve a game where everyone plays the same, it's really boring. Well, that's an excellent reason to keep highsec as it is. It support a diverse array of playstyles. |
Kal Murmur
Lazortits
0
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:40:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Highsec carebears should spend as much time and effort, while they carry out the tasks they want to do, as are necessary to complete the task without losing their ship (assuming they don't want to lose it), within the boundaries of the ingame rules. The members of any highsec mining op that gets ganked, after they did not include precautions that might have defended against that gank, do not deserve to complain.
Because you want to change how highsec has been for the last decade in a self entitled crusade to 'create content' and make other people play the way you want them to play, right? The law of unintended consequences is going to end up biting someone in the ass, the only thing to be seen is whether it's the gankers or CPP who take the damage.
Benny Ohu wrote:New players are protected from the harsher parts of EVE Online while they're doing the tutorials. Each loss they suffer after that is a learning experience, as it is with every other player. They are treated as every other player in EVE Online is treated. And any player who plays poorly cannot expect to win against players who play well.
The first couple of weeks playing is generally player vs game not player vs player. Winning is managing to overcome the already high bar to entry and getting to grips with the often unintuitive and unfriendly game mechanics. All that's happening now is that bar is being pushed higher and higher as highsec gets even more dangerous. Now what do you think might happen as a result?
Benny Ohu wrote:No. Why would anyone want to force someone out of highsec if they don't want to leave? I don't see any evidence of people leaving because of the possibility of aggression in highsec. I do see a lot of people who enjoy doing level fours in highsec. I do see that most industry has been done in highsec, despite the existence of highsec aggression, for ten years. Not 'ground into the dirt'.
The game always encouraged people to move out to low / null, that's why the rewards for doing so are so much higher. At the same time people have always been able to stay if they are willing to accept lower rewards and grind. I've just come back after a break and being an industrialist in high sec has become a lot harder in my absence. Freighters are much less safe, mining is a lot less safe. If you're a ganker that that's awesome news, you get to have lots more fun. If you're an industrialist that's really bad news, and you're going to have a lot less fun.
Benny Ohu wrote:Well, that's an excellent reason to keep highsec as it is. It support a diverse array of playstyles.
Highsec always did support a diverse array of playstyles. The current gank epidemic just reduces that diversity by making some professions increasingly boring to the point where people just can't be bothered any more. The sad thing is that if it drives away subs CCP will inevitably nerf ganking more, and that will really suck. It's just a shame that people can't do things in moderation instead of everyone jumping on whatever bandwagon happens to be rolling past at the moment. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22954
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:45:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:Because you want to change how highsec has been for the last decade in a self entitled crusade to 'create content' and make other people play the way you want them to play, right? Where has he suggested anything of the kind? Oh, and over the last decade, highsec hasn't exactly been the same all alongGǪ
Quote:Highsec always did support a diverse array of playstyles. The current gank epidemic just reduces that diversity by making some professions increasingly boring to the point where people just can't be bothered any more. What gank epidemic? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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Kal Murmur
Lazortits
0
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:53:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Oh, and over the last decade, highsec hasn't exactly been the same all alongGǪ
True, generalizations are usually prone to fail.
Quote:What gank epidemic?
The one that currently has miners all over highsec scared to undock a hulk. Most of the ones I know are now flying covs instead just because the hit wouldn't hurt as much. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22954
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Posted - 2014.07.07 14:57:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:The one that currently has miners all over highsec scared to undock a hulk. Most of the ones I know are now flying covs instead just because the hit wouldn't hurt as much. You mean the one that doesn't seem to produce that many more kills than in other periods of the game and which hasn't made a dent in the profession?
It's hardly an epidemic if it's just created through PR and if it makes no difference to what people do. It certainly isn't an epidemic if it only hits that small a subset of characters. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5985
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:00:00 -
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Kal has been in the game long enough to remember when Gankers did NOT announce their plans on Blogs and in local
Did NOT tell you how to avoid being killed
And did NOT display their credentials for gankery in their bios
Kal has also been in the game long enough to know that you watch D-Scan and Local and dont Autopilot because these are sensible things to do.
So, please, oh 2009 Kal, tell us what has changed so dramatically?
(Except for the things that have made ganking HARDER in high sec?) "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1792
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:21:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
Also, in the general style of this thread, any 'No You!' directed at the above stated will be considered discussing forum moderation. In other words: Yes Me! ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3545
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:22:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Highsec carebears should spend as much time and effort, while they carry out the tasks they want to do, as are necessary to complete the task without losing their ship (assuming they don't want to lose it), within the boundaries of the ingame rules. The members of any highsec mining op that gets ganked, after they did not include precautions that might have defended against that gank, do not deserve to complain. Because you want to change how highsec has been for the last decade in a self entitled crusade to 'create content' and make other people play the way you want them to play, right? Nothing would change. What I wrote above is exactly how EVE Online has worked for ten years. If you want to do something, you take what measures that are appropriate to increase your chances of being able to complete your goal. If you do not take what precautions are necessary to avert danger, you cannot expect to avoid that danger.
Quote:The first couple of weeks playing is generally player vs game not player vs player. Winning is managing to overcome the already high bar to entry and getting to grips with the often unintuitive and unfriendly game mechanics. All that's happening now is that bar is being pushed higher and higher as highsec gets even more dangerous. Now what do you think might happen as a result? Highsec is not getting more dangerous.
Quote:The game always encouraged people to move out to low / null, that's why the rewards for doing so are so much higher. At the same time people have always been able to stay if they are willing to accept lower rewards and grind. I've just come back after a break and being an industrialist in high sec has become a lot harder in my absence. Freighters are much less safe, mining is a lot less safe. If you're a ganker that that's awesome news, you get to have lots more fun. If you're an industrialist that's really bad news, and you're going to have a lot less fun. Freighters are safer than they've ever been. Mining is safer than it's ever been.
Quote:Highsec always did support a diverse array of playstyles. The current gank epidemic just reduces that diversity by making some professions increasingly boring to the point where people just can't be bothered any more. The sad thing is that if it drives away subs CCP will inevitably nerf ganking more, and that will really suck. It's just a shame that people can't do things in moderation instead of everyone jumping on whatever bandwagon happens to be rolling past at the moment. There is no gank epidemic. It's good that you've accepted that ganking has been nerfed and I appreciate your disapproval of further nerfs. |
Kal Murmur
Lazortits
0
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:27:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kal has been in the game long enough to remember when Gankers did NOT announce their plans on Blogs and in local Did NOT tell you how to avoid being killed
And did NOT display their credentials for gankery in their bios
Oh please, suicide ganking used to be a niche profession that added a nice extra sense of danger to highsec (which was much needed). Then the whole Hulkaggedon stuff started and that was manageable because it was a temporary event and anyone unwilling to work around stuff like that deserves to die anyway.
The problem now isn't 'OMG people in highsec are DYING!', it's that a load of low skill plebs are popping too many miners and freighters and as a result making carebearing less fun for the considerable number of people who actually enjoy it.
Ramona McCandless wrote:Did NOT tell you how to avoid being killed I just need to quote this again, because it's possibly the single most laughable thing I've ever read.
"Just fly manually not afk!" Except we pop manual pilots too. "Just fit a tank!" Except we pop tanked freighters too. "Just don't fly with valuable cargo!" Except we also pop empty freighters. "Just check forums/map!" Unless you're one of the first ones through, in which case unlucky. "Just pay us a fee for a 'permit'!" And we'll probably pop you anyway for whatever reason we choose fit.
People being ganked in highsec isn't a problem, some people should be ganked in high sec, but please stop pretending this is all the fault of the people getting ganked.
Ramona McCandless wrote:Kal has also been in the game long enough to know that you watch D-Scan and Local and dont Autopilot because these are sensible things to do. Autopiloting has always been ******** (although more understandable for empty high sec freighter pilots simply because of how insanely tedious that job is). Keeping an eye on local is also fair enough. Constantly D-Scanning in high sec though is a ridiculous barrier to put up, especially considering how long it takes to mine low value ore.
"Ok miner, instead of just sitting around staring at that rock for 2 hours, you now get to sit and click d-scan for 2 hours until you can't feel your fingers any more while staring at that rock. Enjoy!"
Ramona McCandless wrote:So, please, oh 2009 Kal, tell us what has changed so dramatically? (Except for the things that have made ganking HARDER in high sec?)
The only thing that has changed is a load of annoying roleplayers decided they wanted delicious carebear tears and too many people piled on the bandwagon.
So please tell us Ramona, why has ganking gotten harder over the years? Not the specific changes, but why CCP keep making it harder? What do you think might have caused that? |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3545
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:30:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:a load of low skill plebs are popping too many miners and freighters please demonstrate the rise of deaths by suicide gank. i'll accept data sourced from zkill or eve-kill. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
447
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:41:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Kal Murmur wrote:a load of low skill plebs are popping too many miners and freighters please demonstrate the rise of deaths by suicide gank. i'll accept data sourced from zkill or eve-kill. Linking killboards is prohibited on General Discussion, but you are free to go to zkillboard and enter "CONCORD" in the search bar, then click on "Stats" tab and scroll down to monthly history.
I'm not picking a side in this argument and I'm not saying that I'm on the same page as your quoted player, but some things are just too obvious and information is freely available. 1 bil-30 days-5% loan available - collateral required: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352279 |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5987
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:41:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:
The only thing that has changed is a load of annoying roleplayers
Yup, RPing is clearly not to be tolerated in an MMORPG
Kal Murmur wrote:So please tell us Ramona, why has ganking gotten harder over the years? Not the specific changes, but why CCP keep making it harder? What do you think might have caused that?
Two factors;
1) Because "a load of low skill plebs" continously are able to think around the difficulties (or lack of them) presented by the terrible CONCORD mechanics.
And/or
2) A lot of people cried and begged the Gods to save them because they were to lazy-minded to defend themselves.
Either way, neither are evidence of your "ganking epidemic". Its pretty telling that you need these things explained to you.
The rest of your excuses are terrible and show an extremely weak understanding of anything that is happening in Highsec. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22957
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:45:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:Because you want to change how highsec has been for the last decade in a self entitled crusade to 'create content' and make other people play the way you want them to play, right? Where has he suggested anything of the kind? Oh, and over the last decade, highsec hasn't exactly been the same all along GÇö it changes, just like every other part of the game. If it doesn't, it quickly becomes stale.
Quote:Highsec always did support a diverse array of playstyles. The current gank epidemic just reduces that diversity by making some professions increasingly boring to the point where people just can't be bothered any more. What gank epidemic?
If there was a gank epidemic going on, we'd see tons of mission-runner ganks in popular systems as opposed to maybe half a dozen or so a few years ago, right? OhGǪ. Yeah, no. Or maybe that's just a Caldari thiGǪ ah, no.
If there was a gank epidemic going on, freighters would be dying by the bucket-load, especially in and around Jita or on the Perimeter gate and in the chokepoints. But no. Or maybe everyone has moved to using JFs so that's whyGǪ no, not that either.
But surely, industrials must be exploding all over the place? Not so much in highsec. Transports then? Lol-áno.
Barges, you say? Yes, some of them die, but it's not exactly a highsec problem and they're almost universally crapfit. Exhumers show a similar pattern.
The simple fact is: there is no gank epidemic. It's a myth. A lie. A complete non-issue that only exists because people are stupid and/or don't take precautions.
Quote:The problem now isn't 'OMG people in highsec are DYING!', it's that a load of low skill plebs are popping too many miners and freighters and as a result making carebearing less fun for the considerable number of people who actually enjoy it. No, the problem is that none of this is actually happening but people lie through their teeth to make it seem like it does. All the precautions you scoff at work. They have worked for years and they work now. The reason we know they work is because they don't show up on the killboards in any volume and because ganking is ridiculously low as it becomes harder and harder to gank, requiring the gankers to pick easer and easier targets in order to actually by successful. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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