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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7836
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Posted - 2014.07.14 04:43:00 -
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Ah, so they do to you guys what they do to us for internet. Gotcha. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
360
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:14:00 -
[2582] - Quote
Nearly at 100 pages of tears.
Keep it up! |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
958
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:15:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ah, so they do to you guys what they do to us for internet. Gotcha.
Its all graft and corruption :D
As an example:
Cost of electricity to the consumer from Grid:
35 cents per kwh
Amount you get paid to "feed back" electricity from solar/wind equipment INTO the grid:
60 cents per kwh under the previous pro-green government (clearly too high) 4 cents per kwh under the current corrupt pro-mining government (stupidly low)
As can be seen, common sense or what is rational has nothing to do with it, its all politically driven on both sides of politics.
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Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
296
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:28:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ah, so they do to you guys what they do to us for internet. Gotcha.
We have the same thing with Internet services too. Plus our infrastructure is laughable compared to most modern nations.
Ask me about the tax system sometime. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7837
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:38:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ah, so they do to you guys what they do to us for internet. Gotcha. We have the same thing with Internet servicespecially too. Plus our infrastructure is laughable compared to most modern nations.
Idk about that, I'm in telecomm myself. The United States is staggering along under an infrastructure that, if given scrutiny, has barely been touched since the 70s.
The telecomm company breakup in the late 90s (thanks, Clinton) turned one relatively benevolent monopoly into fifty small, localized, extremely hostile monopolies. The end result of course is that we now have three choices, and they're all basically the same.
But the worst thing was that, where AT&T had EARNED their infrastructure, built it from the ground up and had plans to upgrade it, these new companies had earned nothing and were only out to see who could milk their customers the hardest, now with government mandates and support. The new companies paid nothing for their infrastructure, and they've been riding on next to zero operational expenses for almost two decades now. The "cost" of telecommunications services is 100% arbitrary.
So they're silver spoon babies, with all the contempt and hostility to their customers that only entitlement can bring. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
298
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Posted - 2014.07.14 06:08:00 -
[2586] - Quote
Kind of like care bears?
See how I brought that on topic? Someone give me a posting medal. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7837
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Posted - 2014.07.14 06:10:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Kind of like care bears?
See how I brought that on topic? Someone give me a posting medal.
Bah, I led you into it. But, (and bear with me for this one), isn't following someone else's narrative just like a Goon? :P "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
958
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Posted - 2014.07.14 06:17:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Kind of like care bears?
See how I brought that on topic? Someone give me a posting medal.
All of the real world are carebears except for Somali pirates a few warlords in 3rd world countries and some fictional heros in Hollywood thrillers :D
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Arkady Romanov wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ah, so they do to you guys what they do to us for internet. Gotcha. We have the same thing with Internet servicespecially too. Plus our infrastructure is laughable compared to most modern nations. Idk about that, I'm in telecomm myself. The United States is staggering along under an infrastructure that, if given scrutiny, has barely been touched since the 70s. The telecomm company breakup in the late 90s (thanks, Clinton) turned one relatively benevolent monopoly into fifty small, localized, extremely hostile monopolies. The end result of course is that we now have three choices, and they're all basically the same. But the worst thing was that, where AT&T had EARNED their infrastructure, built it from the ground up and had plans to upgrade it, these new companies had earned nothing and were only out to see who could milk their customers the hardest, now with government mandates and support. The new companies paid nothing for their infrastructure, and they've been riding on next to zero operational expenses for almost two decades now. The "cost" of telecommunications services is 100% arbitrary. So they're silver spoon babies, with all the contempt and hostility to their customers that only entitlement can bring.
You do have Google putting in fiber to the premises in about 30 cities.
Our current government thinks WWII vintage corroded copper is all that is need due to "magical technical mumbo jumbo" making crazy speeds theoretically possible on a brand new (prob cat6e) copper line. |
Pookie McPook
The Whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch
40
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:59:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:It has nothing to do with environmentalists and everything to do with poor industry regulation and good old fashioned gouging.
Edit: if you think repealing the carbon tax without legislation mandating the cost savings be passed on to consumers will result in cheaper energy prices, I have a bridge to sell you.
Carbon taxes were intended to be funded by the energy companies out of their vast profits. Obviously that was a KTHXBAI moment and they just lumped it onto energy prices. To assume a repeal in the tax would result in a commensurate reduction in energy bills is as na+»ve as governments were to begin with. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1420
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:44:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Arkady, you normally have your head on straight.
But you cannot tell me that environmentalists aren't at fault for a carbon tax. Little enough as I know about Aussie politics, I highly doubt that any other political lobby group put such a thing into place.
In most developed countries the group that lobbies for that type of thing are not environmentalists (Because they usually have no power to lobby). Most of the lobby comes from health Insurance companies.. that cut costs a LOT when people have less lung problems... "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1420
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:52:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:System traffic 34,752 jumps, total kills in system 102
- chance of exploding in Uedama 0.29% : (102/34752)*100
- hauler kills as a percentage of total kills 9.8% : (10/102)*100
- suicide ganks as a percentage of hauler kills 70% (7/10)*100
- suicide ganks as a percentage of total kills 6.86% (7/102)*100
- suicide ganks as a percentage of total jumps 0.02% (7/34752)*100
Clearly suicide ganking is a massive problem and it's all your fault for highlighting it, Jonah. :)
Well all that is falascious usage of statistic. Torturign numbers like that I can prove even that freighter ganking is direclty proportional to the ammount of cars sold by ford.
Try again with the simple obvious addition of excluding the ships that are not industrial from your jump tables. Do that by takign the percentage of ships in eve that are industrial /freighter and multiply your value by the inverse.
The number suddenly rises a LOT. Where to get these numbers? The old economical reports have it, the percentage of industrial ships should not have changed much....
BTW, no your haulers in peorcentage of the total kill doe snot mean the same. If you think it does than you fail at statistics of discrete systems. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3895
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:05:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:admiral root wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:System traffic 34,752 jumps, total kills in system 102
- chance of exploding in Uedama 0.29% : (102/34752)*100
- hauler kills as a percentage of total kills 9.8% : (10/102)*100
- suicide ganks as a percentage of hauler kills 70% (7/10)*100
- suicide ganks as a percentage of total kills 6.86% (7/102)*100
- suicide ganks as a percentage of total jumps 0.02% (7/34752)*100
Clearly suicide ganking is a massive problem and it's all your fault for highlighting it, Jonah. :) Well all that is falascious usage of statistic. Torturign numbers like that I can prove even that freighter ganking is direclty proportional to the ammount of cars sold by ford.
Do it then.
Somehow, I get through Uedama on my alt, in a hauler, on a daily basis, and come back again, without getting ganked. Only a few people know who my alt are, and they're not CODE or anyone doing the ganking affording me special protections. My alt doesn't have a 'permit', either, and yet, that's a 0% ganked rate for me. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3895
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:11:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Arkady, you normally have your head on straight.
But you cannot tell me that environmentalists aren't at fault for a carbon tax. Little enough as I know about Aussie politics, I highly doubt that any other political lobby group put such a thing into place.
It wasn't a political lobby group that convinced Julia Gillard to announce a price on carbon. The way it was structured, it wasn't a tax, it was a floating carbon price. There is a difference, although it's complicated to explain so if you're interested, you can look it up.
The main point is, it wasn't an environmentalist lobby group that convinced the government to implement this price. It was the CSIRO and other scientific institutes in Australia. The same CSIRO that invented WiFi. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Lady Areola Fappington
2060
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:13:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:
Well all that is falascious usage of statistic. Torturign numbers like that I can prove even that freighter ganking is direclty proportional to the ammount of cars sold by ford.
Try again with the simple obvious addition of excluding the ships that are not industrial from your jump tables. Do that by takign the percentage of ships in eve that are industrial /freighter and multiply your value by the inverse.
The number suddenly rises a LOT. Where to get these numbers? The old economical reports have it, the percentage of industrial ships should not have changed much....
BTW, no your haulers in peorcentage of the total kill doe snot mean the same. If you think it does than you fail at statistics of discrete systems.
So, if ganking freighters is so bad, why not use one of the many non-freighter ships to haul with. Things that don't die as easy.
Surely, if ganking is having THAT big an impact, the added expense of using alternate hauling will be covered.
I mean, you really got to pick a side. A. Ganks are so bad that using things like JFs are worth it. B. Ganks really aren't that bad overall, nothing needs to be done.
It's the old New Order Fallacy, dressed up in freighters this time. The New Order is a worthless useless group that doesn't impact anything in EVE but we need to buff (gank target) because so many of them are dying to New Order ganks. This thread officially has 25% more pssssssshhh than leading competitors. Rick Moranis was never put on death row for shrinking his children. New York exists outside the mind of Billy Joel. A French press is not lifting weights with your tongue out. Lena Dunham is not a girl ventriloquist. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:14:00 -
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The same CSIRO that the current government is gutting the budget of because they're afraid they'll make a real Jurassic Park and kill us all? |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3895
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:15:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:The same CSIRO that the current government is gutting the budget of because they're afraid they'll make a real Jurassic Park and kill us all?
Uhuh, and edited my post above with a link you might enjoy. It might also make you a bit sick to read it, but... them's the breaks. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:15:00 -
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Point of order; I'm a public servant in Australia. I don't need any fancy link to tell me how ****** we are. He's too busy trying to make me unemployed. |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3895
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:17:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Point of order; I'm a public servant in Australia. I don't need any fancy link to tell me how ****** we are. He's too busy trying to make me unemployed.
edit: and ensuring that the ones who don't lose their job wish they did.
Well, I'm disabled, and he's about to try to make me get one. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3895
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:18:00 -
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New point of order: let's not do politics here, it annoys me enough without cutting into EVE discussions. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19584
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:16:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Well all that is falascious usage of statistic. Torturign numbers like that I can prove even that freighter ganking is direclty proportional to the ammount of cars sold by ford.
Try again with the simple obvious addition of excluding the ships that are not industrial from your jump tables. Do that by takign the percentage of ships in eve that are industrial /freighter and multiply your value by the inverse.
The number suddenly rises a LOT. Where to get these numbers? The old economical reports have it, the percentage of industrial ships should not have changed much....
BTW, no your haulers in peorcentage of the total kill doe snot mean the same. If you think it does than you fail at statistics of discrete systems. I would love to see you prove that freighter ganking is directly proportional to the mount of cars sold by Ford (is that worldwide or your local market btw?)
I openly admitted that the data is limited and likely to be flawed, something you appear to have missed. There is no method of removing non industrial ships from the amount of jumps, because that data is not publicly available. If you have some super secret data source that does cover this, share it.
FYI any date from the QENs would be at best 3 years out of date, the last available QEN is for the final quarter of 2010 and was released in April 2013. In July 2013 CCP announced that there would be no more.
10 ships got killed while hauling through Uedama during the 24 hour period I used, I have no doubt that several hundred industrial ships, that didn't get killed, passed through Uedama during that same period.
My point stands, the chances of getting ganked in a chokepoint system are very very small. There is no glut of suicide ganking, there is however, a glut of moaning minnies whining about it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1411
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:34:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Try again with the simple obvious addition of excluding the ships that are not industrial from your jump tables. Do that by takign the percentage of ships in eve that are industrial /freighter and multiply your value by the inverse.
The number suddenly rises a LOT.
It rises so much that you were moved to share the result with us when you did the math in order to reach that conclusion.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Kal Murmur
Lazortits
3
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:54:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:So, if ganking freighters is so bad, why not use one of the many non-freighter ships to haul with. Things that don't die as easy.
Surely, if ganking is having THAT big an impact, the added expense of using alternate hauling will be covered.
I mean, you really got to pick a side. A. Ganks are so bad that using things like JFs are worth it. B. Ganks really aren't that bad overall, nothing needs to be done.
It's the old New Order Fallacy, dressed up in freighters this time. The New Order is a worthless useless group that doesn't impact anything in EVE but we need to buff (gank target) because so many of them are dying to New Order ganks.
Couple of things..
a) Freighters are the only ship that can move some items. b) Some people need to move huge quantities of goods, anything smaller than a freighter is utterly inefficient for this. c) Jump freighters are vital for many low/null resupplies, they're not something you can just decide to not use.
I've thought for a very long time that there needed to be a hauling ship between industrials and freighter (no not the Orca), but the simple truth is that for some tasks you don't have any choice but to use the freighter. |
malcovas Henderson
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
212
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Posted - 2014.07.14 13:21:00 -
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Kal Murmur wrote:
Couple of things..
a) Freighters are the only ship that can move some items. b) Some people need to move huge quantities of goods, anything smaller than a freighter is utterly inefficient for this. c) Jump freighters are vital for many low/null resupplies, they're not something you can just decide to not use.
I've thought for a very long time that there needed to be a hauling ship between industrials and freighter (no not the Orca), but the simple truth is that for some tasks you don't have any choice but to use the freighter.
Couple of things
a) Jita is not the only trade hub. b) You haul all your eggs in one basket, then get Blapped. You just lost your efficiency c) Yes JF are vital for survival in null. You Jump to Hi Sec. Transfer goods to Freighter. JF does not get Blapped
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Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
283
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Posted - 2014.07.14 13:26:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Kal Murmur wrote:
Couple of things..
a) Freighters are the only ship that can move some items. b) Some people need to move huge quantities of goods, anything smaller than a freighter is utterly inefficient for this. c) Jump freighters are vital for many low/null resupplies, they're not something you can just decide to not use.
I've thought for a very long time that there needed to be a hauling ship between industrials and freighter (no not the Orca), but the simple truth is that for some tasks you don't have any choice but to use the freighter.
Couple of things a) Jita is not the only trade hub. b) You haul all your eggs in one basket, then get Blapped. You just lost your efficiency c) Yes JF are vital for survival in null. You Jump to Hi Sec. Transfer goods to Freighter. JF does not get Blapped With the new Industry, I wonder if people will start to realize that they can sell their stuff anywhere they want, with higher profits than by moving them to central points with high competition.
I assume that the closer one gets to populated systems, the higher prosuction costs will be, so more people will build away from populated systems, meaning more and more systems will be used to build things ...
... and hopefully more people will be smart enough to sell locally. It's funny how she changed her mains portrait,-ábecause all her alts look pretty much like her. Took her a long while to finally realize.-á(: -álol Phantomime.
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Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
67
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:00:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote: 10 ships got killed while hauling through Uedama during the 24 hour period I used, I have no doubt that several hundred other ships, also hauling and which didn't get killed, passed through Uedama during that same period.
Therefore, given the data available, my point stands. The chances of getting ganked in a chokepoint system are very very small. There is no glut of suicide ganking, there is however, a glut of moaning minnies whining about it.
Lmao! No the fact that there is no better info available does not mean your admittedly flawed stats "stand" by default. Your stats actually show nothing to prove the "very very small" chance of having a freighter ganked in Uedama, unless of course you can provide a % of freighter jumps?
Take for example if the number of freighter jumps for the same period are 3, that would mean with 3 freighters ganked there is a 100% chance of being ganked in Uedama. See how easily we can bend stats to fit our needs? |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
960
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:08:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Arkady Romanov wrote:Point of order; I'm a public servant in Australia. I don't need any fancy link to tell me how ****** we are. He's too busy trying to make me unemployed.
edit: and ensuring that the ones who don't lose their job wish they did. Well, I'm disabled, and he's about to try to make me get one.
that one confuses me
if your disabled you now have to get a part time job or lose all benefits BUT if you do any work at all you will be investigated for not being truly disabled |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
960
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:10:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Kal Murmur wrote:
Couple of things..
a) Freighters are the only ship that can move some items. b) Some people need to move huge quantities of goods, anything smaller than a freighter is utterly inefficient for this. c) Jump freighters are vital for many low/null resupplies, they're not something you can just decide to not use.
I've thought for a very long time that there needed to be a hauling ship between industrials and freighter (no not the Orca), but the simple truth is that for some tasks you don't have any choice but to use the freighter.
Couple of things a) Jita is not the only trade hub. b) You haul all your eggs in one basket, then get Blapped. You just lost your efficiency c) Yes JF are vital for survival in null. You Jump to Hi Sec. Transfer goods to Freighter. JF does not get Blapped With the new Industry, I wonder if people will start to realize that they can sell their stuff anywhere they want, with higher profits than by moving them to central points with high competition. I assume that the closer one gets to populated systems, the higher prosuction costs will be, so more people will build away from populated systems, meaning more and more systems will be used to build things ... ... and hopefully more people will be smart enough to sell locally.
selling locally is a shallow market with low turnover, its tme consuming and risky
its generally only something a starter industrialist does
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1215
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:46:00 -
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Organic Lager wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote: 10 ships got killed while hauling through Uedama during the 24 hour period I used, I have no doubt that several hundred other ships, also hauling and which didn't get killed, passed through Uedama during that same period.
Therefore, given the data available, my point stands. The chances of getting ganked in a chokepoint system are very very small. There is no glut of suicide ganking, there is however, a glut of moaning minnies whining about it.
Lmao! No the fact that there is no better info available does not mean your admittedly flawed stats "stand" by default. Your stats actually show nothing to prove the "very very small" chance of having a freighter ganked in Uedama, unless of course you can provide a % of freighter jumps? Take for example if the number of freighter jumps for the same period are 3, that would mean with 3 freighters ganked there is a 100% chance of being ganked in Uedama. See how easily we can bend stats to fit our needs? So you think a grand total of 3 freighters travel from Dodi to Jita in 24h... Wow you sure have a feel for numbers.
My hauling alt often goes through Uedama. She always sees at least 1 freighter in system, no matter the time of day. Assuming 2 minutes gate-to-gate travel time (it's actually less), that means at least 30 freighters per hour, or over 600 per day.
So Jonah's 'several hundred' is either spot on or underestimated.
3 freighters per day... lmao! |
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
291
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:46:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Christina Project wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Kal Murmur wrote:
Couple of things..
a) Freighters are the only ship that can move some items. b) Some people need to move huge quantities of goods, anything smaller than a freighter is utterly inefficient for this. c) Jump freighters are vital for many low/null resupplies, they're not something you can just decide to not use.
I've thought for a very long time that there needed to be a hauling ship between industrials and freighter (no not the Orca), but the simple truth is that for some tasks you don't have any choice but to use the freighter.
Couple of things a) Jita is not the only trade hub. b) You haul all your eggs in one basket, then get Blapped. You just lost your efficiency c) Yes JF are vital for survival in null. You Jump to Hi Sec. Transfer goods to Freighter. JF does not get Blapped With the new Industry, I wonder if people will start to realize that they can sell their stuff anywhere they want, with higher profits than by moving them to central points with high competition. I assume that the closer one gets to populated systems, the higher prosuction costs will be, so more people will build away from populated systems, meaning more and more systems will be used to build things ... ... and hopefully more people will be smart enough to sell locally. selling locally is a shallow market with low turnover, its tme consuming and risky its generally only something a starter industrialist does That's how it currently is, but I don't see why it needs to stay that way.
Often enough I was pissed when the items I needed weren't available within at least a few jumps. When people start to build more stuff spread out between systems, things might hopefully change.
It's funny how she changed her mains portrait,-ábecause all her alts look pretty much like her. Took her a long while to finally realize.-á(: -álol Phantomime.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19588
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:06:00 -
[2610] - Quote
Organic Lager wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote: 10 ships got killed while hauling through Uedama during the 24 hour period I used, I have no doubt that several hundred other ships, also hauling and which didn't get killed, passed through Uedama during that same period.
Therefore, given the data available, my point stands. The chances of getting ganked in a chokepoint system are very very small. There is no glut of suicide ganking, there is however, a glut of moaning minnies whining about it.
Lmao! No the fact that there is no better info available does not mean your admittedly flawed stats "stand" by default. Your stats actually show nothing to prove the "very very small" chance of having a freighter ganked in Uedama, unless of course you can provide a % of freighter jumps? Take for example if the number of freighter jumps for the same period are 3, that would mean with 3 freighters ganked there is a 100% chance of being ganked in Uedama. See how easily we can bend stats to fit our needs?
3 freighters passing through a chokepoint in a 24 hour period would indicate that something is very very wrong with the economy, which there is not, ergo my traffic scenario is a lot more likely than yours
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