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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
4202
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:23:00 -
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Why does the OP have a thread title Most efficient orca ganking crew for 0.5 in C&P?
Is this entire threadnaught an elaborate troll? Has the OP changed her mind and ganking her comrades now?
OP from the other thread:
Quote:I'm not part of a massive gank alliance like CODE and don't have those numbers of pilots available to me. I don't know the DPS numbers on T3 BC like Talos. I need specific numbers or the gank can fail. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) |
Noragli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:55:00 -
[2942] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Why does the OP have a thread title Most efficient orca ganking crew for 0.5 in C&P? Is this entire threadnaught an elaborate troll? Has the OP changed her mind and ganking her comrades now? OP from the other thread: Quote:I'm not part of a massive gank alliance like CODE and don't have those numbers of pilots available to me. I don't know the DPS numbers on T3 BC like Talos. I need specific numbers or the gank can fail.
Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
4243
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:09:00 -
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Noragli wrote:Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca. You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox.
However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously
(1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and (2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.
The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
492
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:23:00 -
[2944] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca. You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox. However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously (1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and (2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against. Oh I see you caught up on it too.
Agenda threads everywhere to pretend relevance, intel gathering, public manipulation, creating of opinions and to ruin it for everyone in the long run. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1223
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Posted - 2014.07.28 14:59:00 -
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The Ganking Avoidance Bible
Let there be no more excuses or cries for nerfs driven by loss to ganking. For as the LORD said, "If thy rush into the spinning blades of a lawnmower, dost thou not expect to have thy pee-pee lopped off and eaten by squirrels as it doth lay on the ground beneath?"
F Would you like to know more? |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2429
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:08:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca. You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox. However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously (1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and (2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against. (3) thinly veiled attempt at trying to learn how to tank an Orca maybe?
(am I doing this right?)
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Noragli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:52:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca. You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox. However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously (1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and (2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.
It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12540
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:06:00 -
[2948] - Quote
Noragli wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca. You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox. However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously (1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and (2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against. It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour.
So you want to nerf a profession into the ground because there is a less than 1% chance you will get ganked... Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1637
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:07:00 -
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Noragli wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca. You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox. However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously (1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and (2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against. It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour. Then you should lead by example. Don't gank those whales, save them!
You're so mean I feel upset. Please stop posting before you harass somebody. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3665
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:57:00 -
[2950] - Quote
Noragli wrote:It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour. because |
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Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
497
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:59:00 -
[2951] - Quote
We should end this thread.
It's just agenda with negative outlook for the game. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Noragli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:09:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:We should end this thread.
It's just agenda with negative outlook for the game.
Yes there is an agenda, to make ganking harder. You only just got that? The pointless ganking of empty ships in what is supposed to be a reasonably safe area of space by large groups of organised players is not good for the game. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3665
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:11:00 -
[2953] - Quote
Noragli wrote:Christina Project wrote:We should end this thread.
It's just agenda with negative outlook for the game. Yes there is an agenda, to make ganking harder. You only just got that? The pointless ganking of empty ships in what is supposed to be a reasonably safe area of space by large groups of organised players is not good for the game.
"the requirement to have large groups of organised players to pointlessly gank ships is bad for the game" - benny ohu |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
497
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:15:00 -
[2954] - Quote
Noragli wrote:Christina Project wrote:We should end this thread.
It's just agenda with negative outlook for the game. Yes there is an agenda, to make ganking harder. You only just got that? The pointless ganking of empty ships in what is supposed to be a reasonably safe area of space by large groups of organised players is not good for the game. Bullshit.
Much more meta behind it.
You know it. I know it.
Just the sheep don't realize.
You're just a plant. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3665
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:22:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:You know it. I know it. You're both nuts. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19853
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:22:00 -
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Noragli wrote: It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour. By "efforts should be made to curb that behaviour" are you suggesting that players should make that effort, or that they should abdicate their responsibility for their own safety to CCP?
If it's the former fine, the tools are already there for them to do so, their laziness is not the gankers fault. If it's the latter then you should seriously think about playing a game where the Devs will hold your hand, Eve is not it.
Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3665
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:24:00 -
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seriously if 'carebears whining in gd about ganking' was evidence of conspiracy then so 'the sun rises in the morning' would be evidence of conspiracy |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
497
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:24:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Christina Project wrote:You know it. I know it. You're both nuts. Sheep. *shrug* http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
497
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:25:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:seriously if 'carebears whining in gd about ganking' was evidence of conspiracy then so 'the sun rises in the morning' would be evidence of conspiracy Dude, if you reduce reality to this, then you really should avoid the topic completely. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3665
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:26:00 -
[2960] - Quote
Christina Project wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:seriously if 'carebears whining in gd about ganking' was evidence of conspiracy then so 'the sun rises in the morning' would be evidence of conspiracy Dude, if you reduce reality to this, then you really should avoid the topic completely. you're not making sense. |
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
4261
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:29:00 -
[2961] - Quote
Noragli wrote:It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour.
You (Noragli) and her friends gank an Orca. End result: An Orca is destroyed. A group of organized gankers gank an Orca. End result: An Orca is destroyed.
Are you saying that CCP should implement game mechanics that cripple organized player collaboration?
Are you saying that when someone commits a gank in which they end up being ISK negative (ie: empty freighter), then there should be some game mechanics to penalize this kind of game play?
When you say "taking it too far".. would the Orca pilot agree? When you gank that pilot are you somehow destroying LESS than an Orca? When an organized group of players ganks that Orca, are they destroying MORE than an Orca?
What is the fundamental difference? I honestly do not understand and maybe you can clarify your thoughts. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
499
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:39:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Christina Project wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:seriously if 'carebears whining in gd about ganking' was evidence of conspiracy then so 'the sun rises in the morning' would be evidence of conspiracy Dude, if you reduce reality to this, then you really should avoid the topic completely. you're not making sense. That's because of Dunning-Krueger, Benny! http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
499
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:40:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour. You (Noragli) and her friends gank an Orca. End result: An Orca is destroyed. A group of organized gankers gank an Orca. End result: An Orca is destroyed. Are you saying that CCP should implement game mechanics that cripple organized player collaboration? Are you saying that when someone commits a gank in which they end up being ISK negative (ie: empty freighter), then there should be some game mechanics to penalize this kind of game play? When you say "taking it too far".. would the Orca pilot agree? When you gank that pilot are you somehow destroying LESS than an Orca? When an organized group of players ganks that Orca, are they destroying MORE than an Orca? What is the fundamental difference? I honestly do not understand and maybe you can clarify your thoughts. Damn you're so sexy when you sound like you're raging a bit! :D http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
58
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:10:00 -
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Some of the more recent EVE trailers of CCP tell us how the influence of the Capsuleers is growing and the "empires are loosing their grasp on power". I think what they meant was their crappy Tractor Units and other deployable stuff (you really think the CONCORD dude was scared because of that?), like always it's up to the players to really implement the vision behind their funny little attempt at actually implementing some gameplay.
Now how ironic would it be if CCP tries to nerf the movement that tries to realize their vision for Highsec (where capsuleers gain more influence) even more (like they always do).
But we will always win, because this is not carebear vs. ganker or industrialist vs. pirat. This is "soloplayer with a desire for complete isolation" vs. "group of MMO players with an interest in how the game works". The sooner you realize that the sooner you will understand how futile your attempts to push CCP for nerfs are. the Code ALWAYS wins |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3668
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:20:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Christina Project wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:seriously if 'carebears whining in gd about ganking' was evidence of conspiracy then so 'the sun rises in the morning' would be evidence of conspiracy Dude, if you reduce reality to this, then you really should avoid the topic completely. you're not making sense. That's because of Dunning-Krueger, Benny! this has nothing to do with anything. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1480
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:19:00 -
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Noragli wrote:Yes there is an agenda, to make ganking harder. You only just got that? The pointless ganking of empty ships in what is supposed to be a reasonably safe area of space by large groups of organised players is not good for the game.
Why would you want to make something harder that's already pretty rare? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
373
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:00:00 -
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112 Pages of tears!!!
Freighters keep dying you keep crying!
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Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
500
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:51:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Some of the more recent EVE trailers of CCP tell us how the influence of the Capsuleers is growing and the "empires are loosing their grasp on power". I think what they meant was their crappy Tractor Units and other deployable stuff (you really think the CONCORD dude was scared because of that?), like always it's up to the players to really implement the vision behind their funny little attempt at actually implementing some gameplay.
Now how ironic would it be if CCP tries to nerf the movement that tries to realize their vision for Highsec (where capsuleers gain more influence) even more (like they always do).
But we will always win, because this is not carebear vs. ganker or industrialist vs. pirat. This is "soloplayer with a desire for complete isolation" vs. "group of MMO players with an interest in how the game works". The sooner you realize that the sooner you will understand how futile your attempts to push CCP for nerfs are. Lol propaganda. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven ....... |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8238
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:59:00 -
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Noragli wrote: Yes there is an agenda, to make ganking harder. You only just got that? The pointless ganking of empty ships in what is supposed to be a reasonably safe area of space by large groups of organised players is not good for the game.
It's great for the game. Player freedom is the primary selling point of EVE Online after all.
"Because I can" is always a good enough reason to gank. Or do anything else for that matter. If I want to buy a carrier and undock in lowsec and announce it so everyone can kill me, "because I can" is a good enough reason for that too.
It's not "pointless ganking", it's player freedom. Either people should have it, or they shouldn't. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
59
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:00:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Some of the more recent EVE trailers of CCP tell us how the influence of the Capsuleers is growing and the "empires are loosing their grasp on power". I think what they meant was their crappy Tractor Units and other deployable stuff (you really think the CONCORD dude was scared because of that?), like always it's up to the players to really implement the vision behind their funny little attempt at actually implementing some gameplay.
Now how ironic would it be if CCP tries to nerf the movement that tries to realize their vision for Highsec (where capsuleers gain more influence) even more (like they always do).
But we will always win, because this is not carebear vs. ganker or industrialist vs. pirat. This is "soloplayer with a desire for complete isolation" vs. "group of MMO players with an interest in how the game works". The sooner you realize that the sooner you will understand how futile your attempts to push CCP for nerfs are. Lol propaganda. Lol out of arguments the Code ALWAYS wins |
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