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Pinky Feldman
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2014.06.21 03:31:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Annah Kitheran is notorious for this. It is a weakness really, you miss out on so many good fights when you only engage with the perfect counter because your enemies are not stupid, if all they see you do is GÇÿdunkGÇÖ your counterparts soon that GÇÿPvPGÇÖ you are chasing so badly will start avoiding you like the plague. There is a certain rush you get when youGÇÖre in warp to a fight youGÇÖre not sure of the outcome of. Where the outcome is decided in the fight not before it. While having the perfect counter might be important when wanting to achieve a bigger goal; if it becomes youGÇÖre the only way you will take a fight then you are really doing yourself a disservice in my opinon. Watch this fight. The Gallente could have easily outshipped for that fight. They did not because the rush of a close equal fight is where the fun is in PvP. See how fun that Video looks? Props to the pilots there they had a blast I'm sure.
To be fair, the Amarr militia itself is a pretty hard counter to most fleet doctrines. The strength of conviction in our faith and purity of our lasers has won many more victories than I think most people realize.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.21 03:56:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:[quote=Stalking Mantis] To be fair, the Amarr militia itself is a pretty hard counter to most fleet doctrines. The strength of conviction in our faith and purity of our lasers has won many more victories than I think most people realize.
Well sometimes you have to take a step back and ask yourself a simple question. Why would I stick around a militia that is usually in Tier 1? it's not for the pay I can tell you that much.
Personally I love Tier 1. It means fights are never far, and let me tell you watching militia chat when we hit tiers 3 and 4 is just a mess. People screaming so and so is an awoxer and so and so is an LP theif. Pathetic really.
Maud first time in ts with agony and Greygal on. Maud:"HOLY F.... Greygal is a chick!" |
Brullig
The Graduates Forged of Fire
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:40:00 -
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His name was Scort Tofusin. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.21 05:09:00 -
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Chapter 24 A Caged Lion
Being away from the game from May 2013 to almost October 2013 means simply I cannot with full confidence comment on anything that happened during my time away from EVE.
With that being said there was one significant change (significant to me at least) that happened in the Amarr/minmatar warzone during my hibernation that I will mention. Sahtogas, the long fabled graveyard of the minmatar, the pride and joy of the Amarr 7th fleet and Amarrean Vengeance was desecrated by the Godless and fell to the Minmatar somewhere during the Angels Sleep.
PIE picked up the slack thankfully and wherever the Godless overstep their boundaries I am happy that we have people Faithful enough to know when the line is crossed. PIE reclaimed Sahtogas while I was gone and for that again I find myself saluting them in this thread.
With Iron Oxide broken and licking their wounds in Houla, and LNA being LNa and sitting comfortably in Houla who had the audacity to tread Amarr holy ground in Sahtogas?
Let me take the liberty of linking that video again.
I remember the first thing that came to mind after coming back to EVE and watching that video. I thought to myself: That is a pretty effin bold statement right there.
From what I understand (again I might be mistaken) Biohazard is not a newcomer to the Minmatar militia they have always been around but never took center stage as a heavy hitter. Winmatar on the other hand, to me at least thatGÇÖs a new name.
Going back to their killboards, the Entity known as Winmatar seems to have exploded onto the Amar/Minmatar scene in August 2013 as no records show before that. Was it a new website? A new killboard who knows but I think we can all agree here that August 2013 is when they really stepped out of the shadows and started making a lot of noise.
I had to see for myself and actively looked for Winmatar pilots to PvP with. For someone boasting such a bold statement as they did in that video I had to see for myself what all the hype was about.
Some things can only be seen within web range. Within that range you can really look out of your ship and see the opposing pilot eye to eye and look deep down his soul to see his true metal as a warrior.
After a few skirmishes with some Winmatar pilots and watching a few of their fleets in action I came to a simple conclusion; everyone in Winmatar from the top down displayed all the things I mentioned in my Interlude (between chapters 22 and 23).
I saw past the bold statement made in that video I linked.
The desecration of Sahtogas buy these pilots did not sit well with me at all. But for the time being to much contemplation on this insult would turn me into a caged lion pacing back and forth as if probing a looking for a way to get out and tear everyone that wronged him apart. That was not healthy because I was In ILAW now, I was already in the Lions Den. So I decided to bury that wound to my pride deep, less I would become a caged Lion in the Lions den and that was not something I wanted to dwell upon.
I was an ILAW pilot and it was time I gave ILAW 110% of what I had because it would only be proper for me to repay them for all the times they helped my old corpmates out.
So the insult was buried, not forgotten but buried. Now was not the time for this wound, now was the time to become an Imperial Outlaw.
To be continuedGǪGǪ.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
678
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Posted - 2014.06.21 08:00:00 -
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Chapter 25 The Lion and the Elephant
The transition into Imperial Outlaws was a smooth one. Many old and familiar faces in that corp. For an old timer like me it really was the right choice. I was pleasantly surprised going through the corporation forums to see the amount of dedication and work Shalee has put into it keeping it organized. If you go through enough corporations in EVE you can tell the ones that have a lot of love put into them as far as infrastructure, chain of command and logistics. It was no wonder this corporation and Alliance has been with the Amarr since long before I even became one. It has been and I for one hope it will always be a bright star in the Amarrian constellation.
As far as the pilots in Imperial Outlaws you pretty much have a solid mix of veterans that know what they are doing so I wasnGÇÖt worried I was going to pull my hair out in fleet with any of them because they didnGÇÖt know what to do and when to do it mid engagement good pvpGÇÖers kind of feed off of each other mid fight and knowing I has some experienced pvpers on my side was a relief.
Another aspect of Imperial Outlaws I highly admired is that there is a large group of pilots in it that I refer to in EVE as GÇÿsolo artistsGÇÖ. There is never a shortage of amazing killmails being posted in corp chat and it keeps pushing you to want to perform better if for no other reason to at least be able to keep up the standards.
Additionally and if you did not see it coming they have an amazing FC in Almity. Easily the second best FC I flew under when it comes to large fleets he can and does handle the pressure well. For someone that has never FCGÇÖed you have to understand the million calculations an FC does every minute. Everything from calculating range, to estimating the speed of his fleet as opposed to the opposing fleet and just a million little things that go through oneGÇÖs mind and for that one must tip his hat to Almity. He does it in a cool calm collected way that really keeps the emotions in check mid fight. If you want to see what I mean in comparison I am sure a short search on youtube will net you a ton of nullsec fleets with terrible FCGÇÖs screaming and heavy breathing and just being terrible to the fleetsGÇÖ morale.
So in essence what you have in Imperial outlaws is a perfect synergy between the ability to have some friendly inner corp competition on who can pull off the best solo kills when you felt like closing comms and just cranking out your favorite music while roaming around plexing or whatever, as well as access to quality fleets with solid SP pilots a solid doctrines. Speaking of doctrines they have a few up their sleeve and if you find yourself too busy during the week to go shopping for a replacement ship etc. Shalee makes sure there are a good number of doctrine ships prefit and ready to rock in the station on corporation contracts.
In short being in InExile is being in the Lions den as far as Amarr corporations go and flying with them is akin to being in a Pride of Lions, youGÇÖre the top predator in Amarr militia but without all the highs stress of GÇÿMUST PLEX NOAW!GÇÖ that I got so accustomed to in Amarrian Vengeance.
Pressure to do things is kept to a minimum and all they really ask is to be able to have a doctrine ship or two on hand for when itGÇÖs go time and really isnGÇÖt that what should be expected of any good pilot?
Another aspect of EVE I was slowly introduced to with ILAW was the role-playing element. They have some good role-players and role-playing content is available for all the faithful Amarr if you want it.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.21 08:10:00 -
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Undocking from Egglehende is no joke either as I would like to bring to light one very amusing aspect of living in and around Egglehende.
The Egglehende Port Authority
In short it is a group of very bored pilots looking to kill anything not set blue coming close to docking range. I for one am not really a fan of station games but I do enjoy having them around as they make sure no funny business goes on outside.
Try to come and bait with a battleship with thirty Minmatar pilots next door and see the amount of pain that will undock at put that nonsense to a stop real quick.
If I had to sum up EPA in one or two words I would say itGÇÖs station games done right. So if you plan on living there you better make good with them and ensure all the settings are set right because one false move and you will die to the ever encouraging song of Aura singing: GÇÿdo do do do do do dock do dock docking do do docking do do docking request deniedGÇÖ.
It is also not unheard of for things to escalate real fast outside the station of Egglehende so thereGÇÖs always a chance something epic might happen at any given time.
This brings us to the final benefit of living in Egglehende; The obvious Elephant in the room; the ever loving IWHIP alliance.
Get on their good side and sing just enough for them on comms and they just might start to like you and let you hang out with them on comms from time to time.
IWHIP fleets are fun. Pure and simple, there are no shortages of people that can and will make you fall back in your chair literally in tears sometimes during fleet chat.
IWHIP has something for everyone really and I find myself a serious fan of one of their corporations in particular; Dirt & Glitter, They give me my much needed fix of plexing when and if needed and I for one do need a regular supply of plexing otherwise EVE gets kind of meh for me. DnG also has a strange obsession with Keisha (the singer) so expect to hear a lot of Keisha songs if you go plexing with them. (don't ask I really cant explain it here in these forums).
But if there is one thing that sticks out from the rest as far as IWHIP itGÇÖs the ability of IWHIP command to provide content to its people. Really hats off to them for that I canGÇÖt imagine what itGÇÖs like keeping 1000 angry space nerdsGÇÖ inline and giving them something to do and shoot.
Local chatter in Egglehende is top notch if your into gifs etc. (like I am) so that is a plus I almost forgot to mention.
Speaking of content I think itGÇÖs time to talk about a certain incident at a certain sun involving a certain Tristan.
To Be ContinuedGǪGǪGǪGǪ Maud first time in ts with agony and Greygal on. Maud:"HOLY F.... Greygal is a chick!" |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
685
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:49:00 -
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Chapter 26 Saints and Sinners
This is the kind of stuff I hate about tiers 3 and 4 right here. Targets become scarce and our space gets crowded with leeches that really **** is all off.
I mean here I am bleeding my wallet dry on ships trying to capture systems to upgrade just enough to at least be able to reimburse the money spent on bringing it up to tiers 2 and 3 and here comes this tiny punisher into my plex. You pull up corp info and he was in TLF not one month ago. In other words this guy is the reason you were kept in such a low tier to begin with for so long and here he comes put put putting into my plex. Yah dude you best believe IGÇÖm shooting you and telling you exactly when you left EPTA as per your corp history while IGÇÖm doing it.
Our glorious Kin Jung Pocket gets really edgy around tiers 3 and 4 because there is no one really to channel all our rage into. So wardecs fly and Kim Jung Pocket Becomes Flyingdecpocket. And hey, if FHP is going to give me another guy to shoot at when all I see are farmers all the better.
BUT, (and this is an entirely personal opinion), I really dislike shooting at people that were at one point in time or the other in the same fleet as I was. Something Something sharing that manly bond on the battlefield something something blood sweat and tears something something Amarr Victor. So while I have no qualms shooting some douche that runs around getting his kicks from awoxing legit amarr pilots, or shooting someone that was in TLF not one month before and is now in StatePro or 24th IC, I do have issue with shooting someone like say, Ypsloon, or Mystical Might. It just doesnGÇÖt feel right.
Now regarding this little Tristan Incident.
There is little I can add that has not already been mentioned in this excellent article.
But in this particular war I do want to make three things clear here while I have the chance.
1-I found myself seriously on the side of the ILAW-IWHIP-AVNG side of the war because really this was not about a Tristan it was about a common and repeated history by Predator Elite. (more on this in a second)
2-Chesterfield Fancypants, buddy you have to put in a lot more work for the amarr before you start talking like that seriously. Old timers respect people that have been through thick and thin and you really do not understand the repeated history of Predator Elite. (again, more on this in a second)
3-Predator Elite: le sigh dude what can I say. I understand youGÇÖre a capital hunter and you will side with anyone to get a capital kill and hey, to each his own knock yourself out go crazy fleet me even I will join your fleets for the occasional Cap Kill
BUUUUUUUUT I wonGÇÖt shoot an amarr to get it and after all your years in TMFED I really think you shouldnGÇÖt either.
Another thing my man seriously, that whole join militia for 3 months thing then drop militia and let your cronies camp the Kamela undock. That poor little 24th IC guy that just got his little arbitrator blown up on the Kamela undock, that poor guy probably saved up three weeks for that Arbitrator and had to haul it down from Amarr in a sigil and was really probably really proud of his ship no matter how crappy the fit was so.....if youGÇÖre going to be a big game hunter tell your cronies to act like big game hunters and let the new bros have a fighting chance. Lord knows we in the Amarr Militia need everyone we can get and that kind of pushes away the new blood. I can understand this kind of thing from a nerdy pirate but youGÇÖre bigger than that and you know it.
Something Something heavy breathing something something heavy threats in local something something I will crush you with my main in PL something something Amarr Victor.
Now back to the all important business of the Minmatar
To Be ContinuedGǪ.. Maud first time in ts with agony and Greygal on. Maud:"HOLY F.... Greygal is a chick!" |
Ninlarra
Tounge punching fart boxes Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.06.21 16:11:00 -
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I got up to "chapter 18" then stopped. I've been in fw since 2009. I remember events a LOT differently then this work of fiction. But w/e, ****** writers got to start somewhere, like a game forum for instance. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
686
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Posted - 2014.06.21 16:15:00 -
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Ninlarra wrote:I got up to "chapter 18" then stopped. I've been in fw since 2009. I remember events a LOT differently then this work of fiction. But w/e, ****** writers got to start somewhere, like a game forum for instance.
I don't remember anyone claiming to be a writer. But hey if you remember events being alot different please by all means go open a thread and write the epic story of the minmatar instead of coming in here and kicking down sandcastles. Maud first time in ts with agony and Greygal on. Maud:"HOLY F.... Greygal is a chick!" |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
420
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Posted - 2014.06.21 16:56:00 -
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Ninlarra wrote:I got up to "chapter 18" then stopped. I've been in fw since 2009. I remember events a LOT differently then this work of fiction. But w/e, ****** writers got to start somewhere, like a game forum for instance. To bad this story tailor to your 2009 perspective it tailors to stalkings perspective. which is starting in 2011 i think. + with all the evidence from dotlan not to mention the killboards and youtubes posted your gonna have to come up with alot more evidence to disprove those chapters you claim to be fiction.
idk how your going to disprove stalking saying we failed to hold aset and take villirere. 'nah you guys actually took it you lied' Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro |
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
Space-Brewery-Association 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2014.06.21 17:31:00 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:~Great Work
Very enjoyable to read.
Would be great to have a perspective and similar writings from:
1. Iron Oxide 2. Triad 3. LNA 4. Global Isk Network / White Lotus 5. Shirak Skunkworks 6. Koza 7. 24eme Legion Etrangere 8. Agony Unleashed (go on Greygal :) 9. ILaw / Feydakin 10. Fweddit
Sarge
Item 1 Ninlarra
I'm sure we'd argue inaccuracies from the FeO "histories" but, it would still be great to read about the experience from your side.
"remedy this situation or you shall spend-áthe rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
691
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Posted - 2014.06.21 21:34:00 -
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tl;dr
I don't claim to be a fweddit expert or anything but fweddit prided itself ever since day 1 as being a friendly environment for new players.
So by going to war over a new pilot getting his little tristan blown up what they really are saying (again in my opinion) is they condemn the way Predator Elites' corporation treated newer players joining the amarr (the whole camping Kamela undock with instalock T3's) and someone had to draw a line in the sand sooner or later.
For far to long many an Amarr pilot stayed quiet about it giving their silence about speaking against it a sort of silent tacit agreement that it was ok because Predator Elite hand fed them Cap kills, and lord knows this game is all being another 3% damage on a cap kill amirite? (I'm looking at you 24th Foreign Legion)
As far as people coming in here and correcting any mistakes I make:
/me points to the excellent post made by Major Trant
Please feel free to jump in with a well thought out well written post about where the mistake was and correct me but to to stand up and heckle on the way out that really doesn't tell us much now does it?
-Cheers
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Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.21 21:57:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:i didnt even know people made videos of arzad. those were nice to see and here kreiga and templar fc'ing.
Kreiga FC'ing?? Christ no wonder Arzad took a month to take.
Excellent series of posts Stalking. It obviously needs more focus on Perkin but they brought back some great memories, especially of the defence of Sahtogas and fighting with Ushra in the Aset pocket. |
Pinky Feldman
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2014.06.21 22:43:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:i didnt even know people made videos of arzad. those were nice to see and here kreiga and templar fc'ing. Kreiga FC'ing?? Christ no wonder Arzad took a month to take. Excellent series of posts Stalking. It obviously needs more focus on Perkin but they brought back some great memories, especially of the defence of Sahtogas and fighting with Ushra in the Aset pocket.
If we want to bring up Perk, he was the primary point of contact between the Aset defenders and Fweddit immediately following the great ninja patch of infinite vulnerable plexes. IMO he did a good job of asking for help and keeping fweddit updated on the situation without marginalizing himself as one of the angry ragers within the Amarr with "OMG FWEDDIT WHY AREN'T YOU DOING X?!! NO WONDER AMARR ARE LOSING!". Pluswan for diplo skills.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Dame Vaa'ko
Death By Design Did he say Jump
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Posted - 2014.06.21 23:24:00 -
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death by design are all predator elites alts multi boxing
sometimes we like to camp station cuz we are terrible at 1337 small gang pvp 420 headshot xoxo swag yolo
and by we i mean predator elite
and by predator elite i mean myself
i am predator elite
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
692
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Posted - 2014.06.22 00:27:00 -
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Chapter 27 My Shadow
As you can already tell from the fact that AVNG was part of the whole Tristan debacle; Amarrean Vengeance was back. Slowly but surely the Angels started to log back into EVE as the Amarr coasted from a strong Tier 4 push from Fweddits resurgence back into Amarr FW in May 2013.
As the final quarter of 2013 was coming to an end, wallets were refreshed by a few solid months of Tier 4 and not much resistance was given to the slow swing of the pendulum back to the Minmatar side.
During my 90 day enlistment with the Imperial Outlaws I really enjoyed a lot of large fleet fights in the almost daily Fweddit/InExile fleets. It was good to have large organized doctrine fleets on tap for a change of pace and I kept in touch with the angels through shared intel channels.
It seemed some kind of trouble was never too far off as anything was liable to pop off when jumping onto Fweddits mumble (btw thanks for not making me sing a silly song guys before giving me access to your mumble).
As I mentioned not being pressured into anything in particular in ILAW was a refreshing break from the Arzad campaign and in between fleets I was able to get my solo fix as usual (more often than not getting myself ganked but hey what do you expect in fw).
As 2014 came I found myself more and more missing the one thing I did not have in Egglehende and found myself more often than not on the same comms as Amarrean Vengeance as the gang slowly started crawling out of the woodwork. The final quarter of 2013/January 2014 also brought a rush of systems changing back to the Minmatar mostly rushed by the ever increasing numbers of Winmatar.
Winmatar recruited heavily and with their Titan started hot dropping every IHUB they could really hampering any general militia Amarr IHUB bashing fleet while mass flipping vulnerable Amarr systems.
Deep down we at Amarrean Vengeance knew what Winmatar was all about. While they might have painted themselves as the true Matari warriors etc. they were all about pushing the Tier levels in their favor to line their wallets and hey, they had the membership numbers and toys to do it.
As the old enemies of the Minmatar (LNA/Iron Oxide) got comfortable in their new home in Houla they became the de facto Minmatar Old Guard. Content with being huddled up and holding down the Houla fortress the Minmatar had a new face that all the new minmatar pilots flocked to.
It was bound to happen really, the day a Winmatar fleet thinks hey cool some Amarrian Vengeance pilots letGÇÖs gank em.
With all the forum chest beating Winmatar were doing it was obvious these newcomers did not fully grasp how the FW game works and you knew it was only a matter of time before their overconfidence got the best of them and they stepped on the wrong toes.
By the second week of 2014 it was obvious, who am I kidding really where else in the Amarr militia do I belong? After spending two weeks straight on comms with Amarrian Vengeance It was time to go home. It was time to shed the cowboy hat and six shooter of ILAW and let my shadow back in. It was time this caged lion left the Pride of lions in Egglehende as you can change where you are, but you cant change who you are.
It has been a long time since Amarrean Vengeance did what they love to do and Winmatar kept prodding and poking the hornets nest thinking GÇÿlol ten man corporation, look at the billions of isk we killed, WE HAVE A TITAN!GÇÖ
Revenge is an act of passion; vengeance of justice. Injuries are revenged; crimes are avenged. Samuel Johnson
To Be Continued
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
694
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Posted - 2014.06.22 02:07:00 -
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Chapter 28 Templar Dane
As the gang slowly started getting back together the last piece was still missing. On a slow and boring night on comms early January 2013 Amarrian Vengeance were hanging out on comms when a long lost and familiar voice cracked through our comms. It was Templar Dane, he was back.
In typical Templar Dane fashion he asked what was going on in the warzone. A few dotlan maps and forums post/links later (including the above mentioned video about GÇÿthat will be the dayGÇÖ) he asked one simple question;
GÇÿWinmatar?!GÇÖ
We calmly explained who they were and what we thought about them he replied us.Now I canGÇÖt really say what exact words he used on these forums but it was something along the lines of: GÇÿand what efforts have you fine upstanding pilots undertaken to stop them?GÇÖ
You have to understand something about Templar Dane. If I was to compare Amearrian Vengeance to a car the guy with his hands on the steering wheel is FHP. The guy that annoyingly keeps wanting the change the radio station is me. The guy with his foot on the gas pedal is Templar Dane. If Templar floors it there isn't really any of us can do but hang on for dear life.
It seems the hands of fate really do pull all the strings in a twisted but well planned way as guess who jumped into system with a bunch of his corpmates in his go to Talwar gang.
Enter Praying Mantis01
As if daring to use the name mantis was not enough this guy immediately started smacking in local about Sahtogas. A few gifs later the wordsGÇÖ that ultimately lead to his downfall were spoken:
Something about no mads please (whatever that is) and donGÇÖt make us take Sahtogas from you like we did beforeGǪGǪ..
[Insert a very long Silence on Amarrian Vengeance comms]
GÇ£WHERE THE EFF DO THESE GUYS LIVE?!GÇ¥ asked Templar. We pointed out to Bosboger and their forward operating base in Anka just two jumps from Sahtogas.
GÇÿOkGÇÖ he replied as I kind of just called it night as it was getting really late.
Revenge is an act of passion; vengeance of justice. Injuries are revenged; crimes are avenged. Samuel Johnson
To Be ContinuedGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪ
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.22 02:28:00 -
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Removed a heavily derailing off-topic post. Enjoy and discuss the story please, don't fling mud.
Quote:26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Supogo Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
696
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Posted - 2014.06.22 02:47:00 -
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36 Hours later Anka was taken from the lower tens as far as contested rate to the upper eighties. He practically took Anka alone as the just watched and helped out when we could.
We are all very angry people at Amarrian Vengeance I admit something snapped inside Templars head that night. Templar Dane did what he always does to this corp, he led by example and the rest just felt ashamed that we were not giving as much as he was.
You have to understand some wounds are best left untouched. We all felt ashamed Sahtogas fell during our break from EVE and as if that was not enough here is this guy we donGÇÖt even know from an alliance that barely existed when we took our break from EVE threatening to take Sahtogas from us.
You donGÇÖt understand. Templar Dane snapped! Going on a 600 man killing spree in January 2013 (and that's just one of his characters) all we could do is hang on for dear life as he pointed at Winmatar and screamed bloody murder.
The Team Ammarrica war machine went into full swing and our esteemed Minister of Propoganda Dan Carter Muray laid out the plan for any and all Winmatar pilots to see in Anka Eviction of January 2013.
This was not going to be a secret under cover lets be sneaky about this campaign. This was going to be a GÇÿwe are so coming for youGÇÖ campaign.
While I know for a fact Winmatar command had no idea what kind of hornetsGÇÖ nest they stirred. Team Amarrica decided it was time for everyone in both the Amarr and Minmatar Militia to know exactly who we were and why you never threaten Sahtogas.
And why a ten man corporation does not need a titan or billions of isk killed to enforce its will.
Because the day you threaten Sahtogas...............................THAT WILL BE THE DAY
To be ContinuedGǪ..
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.22 04:43:00 -
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Chapter 29 For God and Empire-The Essin Campaign
As mentioned before the Leadership of Amarrean Vengeance are no fools and while the tactics seem suicidal they are calculated risks. With Anka falling at the sudden Templar Dane onslaught on January 17th 2013 and IWHIP departing the Amarr militia for nullsec we knew we had to strike hard to break a few systems before the Minmatar get a chance to react to the sudden void left by IWHIPS departure to nullsec.
Essin was named as our next target, it was cricual to remove TRIAD from Eszur as the sudden lack of Pressure coming from IWHIP in Egglehende (two jumps from Ezsur) meant it would only be a matter of time before they started fanning out from Ezsur.
The infamous Campagn POS went up in Frerstorn (thereby giving jumpgate access to the whole constellation). With the flurry of AVNG pilotsGÇÖ plexing Essin for a solid week TRIAD saw the writing on the wall. As shown here in this forum post TRIAD (now with the remnants of Ushra Khan in their fold) wanted nothing to do with Amarrian Vengeance and announced they were GÇÿleavingGÇÖ Eszur and FW on January 27th 2014.
With TRIAD out of the picture this campagn was going to go much faster than we anticipated. Amarrian Vengeance gave up on plexing any system In Essin other than Eszur deciding a quick flip of Eszur was more important than any other system in the Essin constellation.
The combined plexing 1-2 of both Amarrian Vengeance and Shirak Skunkworks ensured Eszur fell. Even though TRIAD (evacuated/didnGÇÖt want that system anyway) Eszur, other Minmatar corporations put up a valiant effort among them Minmatar brotherhood and Born Imperialism.
On February 2nd, 2014 Eszur Fell for the first time in any remembered history to the Amarr Empire.
The IHUB bash went smoothly, well almost smoothly as Winmatar tried to stop the bashing fleet in typical Winmatar fashion. I think I will leave that little story for Templar Dane to tell because Templar you earned telling that one.
With Eszur down our sights were set on Bosboger.
We knew it was not going to be easy taking Bosbogur we were going to go up against a 100 man Alliance.
It seems God is on the Amarr side though; because before the dust even settled from the battle of Eszur fate stepped in and gave the Amarr one last divine push. That blessing being to cause the hubris of Winmatar command to not just settle for just upsetting Templar Dane, it decided to step on another set of toes.
To be continuedGǪGǪGǪGǪ..
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.22 04:45:00 -
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.22 05:53:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Chapter 29 For God and Empire-The Essin CampaignAs mentioned before the Leadership of Amarrean Vengeance are no fools and while the tactics seem suicidal they are calculated risks. With Anka falling at the sudden Templar Dane onslaught on January 17th 2013 and IWHIP departing the Amarr militia for nullsec we knew we had to strike hard to break a few systems before the Minmatar get a chance to react to the sudden void left by IWHIPS departure to nullsec. Essin was named as our next target, it was cricual to remove TRIAD from Eszur as the sudden lack of Pressure coming from IWHIP in Egglehende (two jumps from Ezsur) meant it would only be a matter of time before they started fanning out from Ezsur. The infamous Campagn POS went up in Frerstorn (thereby giving jumpgate access to the whole constellation). With the flurry of AVNG pilotsGÇÖ plexing Essin for a solid week TRIAD saw the writing on the wall. As shown here in this forum post TRIAD (now with the remnants of Ushra Khan in their fold) wanted nothing to do with Amarrian Vengeance and announced they were GÇÿleavingGÇÖ Eszur and FW on January 27th 2014. With TRIAD out of the picture this campagn was going to go much faster than we anticipated. Amarrian Vengeance gave up on plexing any system In Essin other than Eszur deciding a quick flip of Eszur was more important than any other system in the Essin constellation. The combined plexing 1-2 of both Amarrian Vengeance and Shirak Skunkworks ensured Eszur fell. Even though TRIAD (evacuated/didnGÇÖt want that system anyway) Eszur, other Minmatar corporations put up a valiant effort among them Minmatar brotherhood and Born Imperialism. On February 2nd, 2014 Eszur Fell for the first time in any remembered history to the Amarr Empire. The IHUB bash went smoothly, well almost smoothly as Winmatar tried to stop the bashing fleet in typical Winmatar fashion. I think I will leave that little story for Templar Dane to tell because Templar you earned telling that one. With Eszur down our sights were set on Bosboger. We knew it was not going to be easy taking Bosbogur we were going to go up against a 100 man Alliance. It seems God is on the Amarr side though; because before the dust even settled from the battle of Eszur fate stepped in and gave the Amarr one last divine push. That blessing being to cause the hubris of Winmatar command to not just settle for just upsetting Templar Dane, it decided to step on another set of toes. To be continuedGǪGǪGǪGǪ..
As I recall, they sent a lone navy aug........and it blew up. The killmail showed a cyno fitted but a lack of ozone in the cargohold.
If they bridged onto our fleet again, I don't remember.
Then preyingmantis01 showed up with a talwar fleet to engage our bombers, and then were spanked by our retributions (again)
[21:04:45] praying mantis01 > gonna need more that retr with inquisitors mate
The highlights of the campaign were trouncing the minnies/frogs over and over, and only getting killed by anslo and his crew. We then spoke with anslo about hitting bosb next and we all set temporary blue standings with..The Scope. Because when the minnies blobbed up, they couldn't cope with The Scope.
That and 3 retributions facing off against 12-15 talwars and owning face.
My hats are off to the gallente pilots that showed up for the defense of eszur, since 95% of the minnies hightailed it out of there when we showed up.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.22 06:09:00 -
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Templar Dane wrote: That and 3 retributions facing off against 12-15 talwars and owning face.
Been waiting a long time for this.
It's the crazy fits like this that make Amarrean Vengeance what it is.
With the secret out about our retributions I want to take a second to show everyone how it's done. How you fight off a gang of Talwars 10 times your size in a few assault frigates.
First off you fir a Retirution with:
[Retribution, New Setup 2] Corpii A-Type Explosive Plating Internal Force Field Array I Heat Sink II Adaptive Nano Plating II Corpii A-Type Explosive Plating
Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S [empty high slot]
Small Energy Locus Coordinator II Small Energy Locus Coordinator II
With the huge explosive hole covered you have its' sister the Vengeance fit like this:
[Vengeance, MEDIC] 200mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Coreli A-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200 Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200
Small 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer Small 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer Small Remote Armor Repairer II Small Remote Armor Repairer II [empty high slot]
Small Remote Repair Augmentor II Small Anti-Thermic Pump II
The idea is the Retributions and Vengeances fly in a very tight formation (by using keep at range) making sure the Vengeances are within rep range of the whole fleet. As soon as damage lands the medic Vengeances rep the ship taking damage and the Retributions are free to beam those Talwars out of the sky.
It is also a very very pretty seeing them fly in formation shooting lasers and repping each other.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
702
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Posted - 2014.06.22 06:56:00 -
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Interlude-Upsetting The Balance
Along the lines of this history a common and recurring theme is obvious to any reader. The hand of fate has been on our side during our campaigns Something about fortune favoring the brave, being faithful, call it what you want but I prefer to call it Miracles.
Small, very well timed Miracles that really push the Amarr forward when they need it the most.
On February 4th 2014 Maximus Decimal CEO of Biohazard made the below release:
So far 15 corporations have declared war on WINMATAR. Pretty much everyone we thought were our friends have turned their backs on us. I will briefly mention the effort that WMTR has put into the war zone, recently and since we decided '**** the amarr'. We have been taking fleets to almost every hub bash to attempt system saves over the last 2 weeks... some successful and some not so much... lol. We made the initial push to T4 while the militia valiantly maintained it for almost 6 weeks during x-mas/January. Just a couple of things we did... yeah a lot of it was for us... but the militia helped us tremendously and reaped the benefits. When I say militia I mean even some of the corps who have just decced us. I fear the ring leaders of this group of 15 are the same who never left their home systems, farmed with their alts, and coerced others to enter into a conflict with WINMATAR.
We do maintain some close friends who have decided to assist us in this war and we thank you very much. There will be some incredible fights to be had over the course of this conflict. Anyone looking to assist us is welcome, feel free to mail me.
http://winmatar.com/wardecs.png
With the Amarr consistently flipping systems at a steady rate, and taking key systems such as Eszur and Kourmonen. I will mention that instead of attempting to save Kourmonen this evening the 15 entities that have decced us were hunting their fellow militia members. With the Amarr actually quite strong at the moment 15 major corps/alliances have decided to pool over 15billion isk per month, not to mention the fleet hours of quite a substantial number of pilots, into fighting their own. This civil war could potentially mean the end of Minmatar resistance in February, possibly bleeding over into March and April, depending on the extend of this war. No doubt the Amarr will start to focus on retaking much of their sovereign space in the Bleaklands with projections made for much of Heimatar and Metropolis to fall without the support of 15 large militia identities.
WINMATAR. will not surrender. We will continue to fight for the Minmatar Militia. our home and our birthplace. We will not be subject to bullying and harassment by our own. We will fight this war to the last ship. and we will continue to maintain our policies of never wardeccing militia corps, never shooting blues, and remaining free. source
Now I mentioned this before. Although to the outsider FW may seem like a bunch of random fights that have no rhyme or reason over meaningless system control there is an unseen balance at hand here. Upset this balance and the collective in any militia known as the GÇÿOld GuardGÇÖ will step in and amend it.
Winmatar being new to the scene of the Amarr/Minmatar warzone did not understand this balance and unspoken rule as they claimed time and time again that they were the reason the Winmatar were GÇÿwinningGÇÖ the war. Somehow this gave a sense of unearned Entitlement as they decided they were the only thing that mattered and everyone was below them.
Not knowing that the fate of Bosbogur was already sealed when Praying Mantis01 decided to taunt us about Sahtogas back in January Winmatar command decided to upset the balance.
Without really adding anything in regards to my opinion about the whole Minmatar Civil war I will just post something I posted back when the Civil war started: Geee where did I see this story before?
1-Lowsec FW corp gets somewhat large and has a Titan giving it the false impression of being superior. 2-Lowsec FW corp leadership siphons isk from moon goo while passing of some lame (ship replacment program) to members to keep them interested in CTA's (that explains all the meta 0 launchers on Biohazards talwars) 3-Lowsec FW corp leadership thinks because it has titan it is entitled to more than smaller corps (might is right) 4-Lowsec FW corp starts wheeling and dealing with large pirate corporations (see suddenly spaceships, shadow cartel etc.) and starts blueing anyone that might be a threat to there infrastructure 5-Lowsec FW corp starts hotdropping with said blue pirates and gets a sense of (I am the king of the world!!) 6-Everyone in militia starts hating said lowsec fw corp because they start to view them as ego-sadistic 7-Lowsec FW corp finds itself alienated and decides ef it isk isk isk and starts making alts for the opposing militia to fund their capitals 8-??????? 9-Lowsec FW corp titan gets hotdropped by PL and or is derped in one fashion or another OR Lowsec FW corp decides they are in the big league and head off to nullsec I mean feel free to stop me if this starts to sound familiar. Source
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Rahelis
Age of Laser Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.22 06:58:00 -
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Bos campain was good fun - I remember logging in at day 2 or day 3 after a 12 hour combat duty shift in bos the night before just to log in and see how the battle is going on.
Immediately I was pressed ganged into templars fleet and had to fight for amarr for 4 hours again - then work called. I slept 2 hours or so.
I want to express my respect for our enmies there - they fought us as hard as they could in bos.
And also pred - I flew much under him in cal mil and we never shot cal mil there - only known gal spies. We all made out clear before joining his fleet what to engage and what not. I like and respect pred - but I will not engage my own milita.
I know pred has his own agenda - who has not? If your are amarr fw and fly with pred simply drop fleet when I comes to the wrong targets.
There are always ppl that do not forget slights to amarr pride. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.22 06:59:00 -
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What made the Bosbogor campaign so entertaining is that in happened on the forums with live updates every few minutes as and when it happened.
You can clearly read how the smug attitude of Winmatar command changes from GÇÿlol 10 man corp we have a TitanGÇÖ to GÇÿOMG you guys have no lifeGÇÖ
Feel free to watch the full GÇÿlive news coverageGÇÖ of the war here if you want as Templar Dane throws down the gauntlet for one and all to see.
But to shed some light on what was not mentioned in the forums and to complete this series I will delve into the inner workings of the Bosbogor campaign for everyone from inside Amarrean Vengeance.
To Be Continued.............. Maud first time in ts with agony and Greygal on. Maud:"HOLY F.... Greygal is a chick!" |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.06.22 07:25:00 -
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Templar Dane wrote:As I recall, they sent a lone navy aug........and it blew up. The killmail showed a cyno fitted but a lack of ozone in the cargohold.
If they bridged onto our fleet again, I don't remember.
Gotta remember your fuel before you undock!
They did manage to bridge onto us later... right as we finished off the ihub and took the system. |
Colt Blackhawk
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.06.22 08:13:00 -
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Stalking really good read and you know I have most respect for ilaw and avng, especially after fighting in several sieges with avng and as an ex avng member. But this "all hail fweddit" unnerves me to hell. They already caused a lot of drama and civil war in July 2012 in militia and bailed out when times were catastrophical in militia. They were already little awoxers in July 2012. Nothing has changed. This fweddit attitude "we are fweddit, we are allowed to do everything we want" is ******. Fweddit ran (and prolly still runs) awox fleets to kill all caldari militia on sight in black rise. I was once even victim of that **** when I was in Nasranite. It damaged the bad relationship between calmil and amarrmil even more. Not to mention they also kill "accidentally" amarr mili guys... Their corp culture is .... no words. Once in fweddit coms, never again in fweddit coms. I really loved my time in amarr militia, with great corps like avng, ilaw, fedaykin, shirak etc. But fweddit and winmatar in amarr militia was simply too much. In my opinion even winmatar aren-¦t as bad as fweddit (in every common sense) and in my opinion even winmatar are only a bunch of little Justin Bibers (remember when they capitulated on coms and were singing Britney Spears songs???). The only one I can really respect in fweddit is Pinky and he is prolly 99% of fweddits brain. Fweddit is completely overrated (as long as pinky isn-¦t the navigator).
My few cents. [09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
706
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Posted - 2014.06.22 08:44:00 -
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Chapter 30 For God, For Empire, For Sahtogas-The Bosbogor Campaign
We were under no illusions in Amarrian Vengeance, this was not going to be a cake walk. We are going up against what was at the time the largest Minmatar Alliance boasting well over 100 members as well as another Alliance that called Bosbogor home Hashashin Cartel.
What we did know was that this Alliance we were going up against was a fragile one. These were not the battle hardened Iron Oxide they were a large group of mission runners that happen to own a titan. But they were numerous and numbers can sway a battle even against the most determined of Invaders.
As the now Infamous POS went up we went all out and bought more ships than we even bought for the famed Arzad Campaign. We could not fail this campaign because unlike others this campaign was made public to one and all in EVE. The gauntlet was thrown down and to back up or lose now would be a detrimental blow the hard earned reputation of Amarrian Vengeance.
As the first few days of battle started the true picture of the numbers we were up against came to light.
Losing a sizable number of ships in the first few days one thing was clear weGÇÖre going to need more ships. With the second wave of logistics coming into the system all AVNG carrier pilots were working overtime.
Plex Fight 1 Plex Fight 2
Somewhere along the lines the united coalition thought they will try to remove our POS as somehow someway they thought that if that POS was destroyed the Campaign would end. (we would have just put up another POS if that happened but they didnGÇÖt know that). What does not show in that picture is a few fighters. It seems someone thought it was a good idea to assign fighters to their POS bashing fleet fleet. I think you already know where this is going.
This is where having friendGÇÖs helps. As you probably already gathered from the picture I posted above I called upon a favor from Predator Elite. (By the way I still owe you for that one pred).
Right in front of their fleet and from inside the pos I jumped into a Buzzard. I mean really do you not seeing this coming? when someone jumps into a buzzard RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FLEET and warps off into the darkness while you have fighters assigned do you really not see this coming?
A few probes out and a one two Kodak moments later this happened.
As the contested rate slowly rose it seemed our tenacity was paying off.
Deciding it was a good time to start playing with their heads Templar Dane started convoing up random Biohazard members from local and the following exchange happened:
Templar Dane: Hey man I will pay you 50 million isk for the evacuation notice
Random Biohazard Pilot: what evacuation notice?
Templar Dane: you mean there wasnGÇÖt an evacuation notice?
Random Biohazard Pilot: WTF you talking about?
Templar Dane: I mean we have been watching your station last night and all your corporation Directors and fleet commanders where moving and jumping out from station with a bunch of freighters and industrials you sure there wasnGÇÖt an evacuation notice?
Random Biohazard Pilot: No there wasnGÇÖt an evacuation notice.
Templar Dane: you sure? cause all the directors are really moving a lot of things out of that station.
One Pilot, Two Pilots, Three Pilots four pilots all getting the same convo from Templar and we watched as the nightshift plexing fleets of the Winmatar slowed down and the amount of small industrials leaving the station to highsec increased.
The trick was to sow the seed that Winmatar command was GTFOGÇÖing and not telling the grunts. And it worked like a charm. As the amount of resistance slowly waned it was obvious they did not have that many plexing ships in station because we were winning many engagements just by throwing an endless supply of coercers at each plex suiciding them into the blob until they finally ran out of plexing ships.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.22 08:53:00 -
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Templar Dane kept telling them to PLEASE kill more of our ships as we donGÇÖt have enough room in the POS for all our ships and most of our ships were still in station and we needed to make room.
Psychological warfare 101.
We were telling them that no matter how many you killed this is not going to stop. Funny thing about it was we were serious to.
Building on the seed planted by Templar Dane and the GÇÿevacuation noticeGÇÖ ruse our propaganda machine started subtly reinforcing the notion that the Directors were really lying to the general members of Winmatar and buying time while they evacuated all their precious assets.
As more and more t1 industrials stated moving out. In essence midway through the contested rate we already had the Grunts evacuating and taking whatever small ships they had with them reducing the amount of the already weak reserves of each member as far as plexing ships.
I guess by the second night of the Ruse Winmatar command wised up and probably sent out an EVEmail along the lines of GÇÿwhy the eff doesnGÇÖt anyone have any plexing ships and why the eff is everyone evacuating?!GÇÖ
Deciding to give one last push they decided it would be a good idea to try to attack the POS again. I mean didnGÇÖt we already go through this? The POS is not going anywhere. This time they thought it would be a good idea to bring one of those little mobile cyno jammer thingies.
It was a slow night in Shadow Cartel and I guess and a little birdy told them where a possible fleet for them to fight was.
As the onslaught of throwaway coercers continued and the contested rate now in the upper 60% range Wimatar command decided maybe it was a good time to reason with us.
We were invited onto their comms. While much was discussed and it was generally friendly banter the message sent to them was that we werenGÇÖt leaving until this system was flipped. Trying to invoke the whole GÇÿyour enemy is our enemyGÇÖ routine they tried to convince us to go and plex Houla instead with their help. Of course we agreed to that under the condition that they join the amarr and only AFTER we flipped Bosbogor.
Also something something we will pay you ten billion isk if you go plex Houla something something (I am neither confirming nor denying that isk was offered to us. I mean it could have been offered, or it could have been something we made up in the forums as a another propaganda ruse who knows my memory is kind of of hazy).
Seeing the cracks appear all the way up Winmatar chain of command it was time for Templar to pull out one last Ace from his sleeve.
That did it, that video literally won the campaign as any and all resitance to plexing stopped after that video.
As the system became vulnerable a General militia fleet was assembled and the IHUB of Bosboger started getting hammered.
Old habits die hard and a bunch of Winmatar Talwars appeared to try to disperse the IHUB bashing fleet and we decided it was time to give our brothers in the bombers one final Airshow over the IHUB in our Retribution/Vengeance fits the cloaked bombers watched Amarrean Vengeance pilots make short work of the Talwar Fleet.
On the ValentineGÇÖs Day 2014.
Bosbogor fell.
And along with it the boogieman that was Winmatar.
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