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Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:37:00 -
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The DPS in a drone only ship i own has dropped by about 25% since the last time i was in it.
What gives? Have i missed some patch notes? BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:38:00 -
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Did you look at the patch notes? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Ralph King-Griffin
Viziam Amarr Empire
2073
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:40:00 -
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I don't think he looked at the patch notes. "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Rin Valador
Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces
98
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:43:00 -
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He didn't look at the patch notes?!?! "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:43:00 -
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I'm not sure you noticed, but there was a patch. You may want to look at the notes. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
689
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:47:00 -
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..i asked in the post if it was in some patch notes. From this you can of course (being clever little soldiers) deduce i have read some patch notes during my time in EvE, but also consider that i may have missed some. It's been a long time since i flew the ship so it's quite a span of patches to take into consideration. I generally fly amarr ships with no drones, so again as i'm sure you already realise (clever) i'm unlikely to have noticed any in game drone changes for quite a time also.
So, while i appreciate all the posts re-stating what i already said in the first post i'd appreciate if someone clever could point me in the direction of the actual patch the change happened in. This way i can quickly locate and peruse the ever so important notage.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:48:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-kronos -> "Drones:"
However, that wouldn't explain a 25% drop in DPS.
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Jen Takhesis
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:49:00 -
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Here is the dev post about the last drone changes. There were many. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/giving-drones-an-assist/
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Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
689
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:51:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-kronos -> "Drones:"
However, that wouldn't explain a 25% drop in DPS.
Thanks man, appreciate it.
The ship in question went from 1011 dps to 772 so it's more like 23% or something. It only does drone dps and has exactly the same drones in it as it had before. BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
Jen Takhesis
The Scope Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:52:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-kronos -> "Drones:"
However, that wouldn't explain a 25% drop in DPS.
From the patch notes:
Quote: balanced to fall on a continuous spectrum of damage and speed. which covers a lot of ground. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5005
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:52:00 -
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They keep saying drone DPS dropped, but my drones are hitting just as hard as they always have. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Noir. Mercenary Group
686
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:53:00 -
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So you didn't look at the patch notes. That explains it. You should have looked at the patch notes. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:56:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:stoicfaux wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-kronos -> "Drones:"
However, that wouldn't explain a 25% drop in DPS.
Thanks man, appreciate it. The ship in question went from 1011 dps to 772 so it's more like 23% or something. It only does drone dps and has exactly the same drones in it as it had before. Sentry drone DPS was nerfed a tad. IIRC, sentry drones now require the drone specialization (e.g. Amarr Drone Spec) to do additional damage. I can't be bothered to re-read the patch notes though.
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Noir. Mercenary Group
686
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:05:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote: I can't be bothered to re-read the patch notes though.
I dunno man, not reading the patch notes caused this whole mess. You should go and read the patch notes.
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Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
689
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:06:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:So you didn't look at the patch notes. That explains it. You should have looked at the patch notes.
You're like the kid sat there yelling Mom! Mom! Mom" while the adults are trying to speak. Go seek attention elsewhere until bed time or there's going to be no sweeties on the way home from school for anyone tomorrow.
Anyway, i think it's going to come down the the specific drones used. The patch notes say dps goes down due to the bonus from the Drone Interfacing skill, but the loss will be covered by increasing the base damage of most drones.
I can only imagine i'm using drones (not sentry) that have not recieved the dps increase, and so i get much lower dps cus i'v lost half my DI bonus..
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Noir. Mercenary Group
689
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:08:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Christopher AET wrote:So you didn't look at the patch notes. That explains it. You should have looked at the patch notes. You're like the kid sat there yelling Mom! Mom! Mom" while the adults are trying to speak. Go seek attention elsewhere until bed time or there's going to be no sweeties on the way home from school for anyone tomorrow.
I would go elsewhere but I can't as I am too busy sat here reading up on the patch notes.
Did you read the patch notes?
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Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
689
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:15:00 -
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If you payed a bit more attention in school and spent less showing off in front of your friends you'd have read them as quick as me. BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
Rannasha Kore
United Individuals Clearly Unconventional Meatshield
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:16:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Christopher AET wrote:So you didn't look at the patch notes. That explains it. You should have looked at the patch notes. You're like the kid sat there yelling Mom! Mom! Mom" while the adults are trying to speak. Go seek attention elsewhere until bed time or there's going to be no sweeties on the way home from school for anyone tomorrow.
Anyway, i think it's going to come down the the specific drones used. The patch notes say dps goes down due to the bonus from the Drone Interfacing skill, but the loss will be covered by increasing the base damage of most drones. I can only imagine i'm using drones (not sentry) that have not recieved the dps increase, and so i get much lower dps cus i'v lost half my DI bonus..
Are you using Geckos? All drones except for Geckos had their base damage adjusted to compensate for the DI nerf. Geckos were introduced with their post-patch values already in place, so before the patch they benefited from both the old DI and the improved base damage. |
Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3802
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:17:00 -
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*Goes to read the patch notes.* *Sees how long the patch notes are.* "Because Falcon" "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
14435
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:40:00 -
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Im going home early. I just banged my head on my desk so hard I split my forehead open.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Jen Takhesis
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:43:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I just banged my head on my desk so hard I split my forehead open.
Does that count as a success? Or was that an unsuccessful head banging? |
Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
689
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:45:00 -
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Rannasha Kore wrote:Are you using Geckos? All drones except for Geckos had their base damage adjusted to compensate for the DI nerf. Geckos were introduced with their post-patch values already in place, so before the patch they benefited from both the old DI and the improved base damage.
Winner. 2 Geckos featured in the flight of 5.
Well i guess it was a tad overpowered..
It's interesting that all but 3 of the people who replied to this post had thousands of likes yet provided no content aside from low level sarcasm. The one person with likes still in single digits nailed it hard with no attitude.. It's like the worlds gone upside down in GD as always :D BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
stoicfaux
4990
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:13:00 -
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Rannasha Kore wrote:
Are you using Geckos? All drones except for Geckos had their base damage adjusted to compensate for the DI nerf. Geckos were introduced with their post-patch values already in place, so before the patch they benefited from both the old DI and the improved base damage.
Geckos and sentry drones. For example, pre-kronos, five Garde IIs on a Dominix with 4xDDAIIs would do 800 DPS. Now they do only 748 DPS.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:23:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote: It's interesting that all but 3 of the people who replied to this post had thousands of likes yet provided no content aside from low level sarcasm. The one person with likes still in single digits nailed it hard with no attitude.. It's like the worlds gone upside down in GD as always :D
To be fair, you were so deliberately vague with "DPS in a drone only ship i own has dropped by about 25% since the last time i was in it" that you might as well have painted a target on the thread.
If you had specified the ship and drone layout, it would have been simple to help you. By not providing even basic context/information, those people who are inclined to provide help couldn't do so without a significant amount of guessing (i.e. provide a lot of their time.) Why should anyone spend a lot of time helping someone if that someone can't be bothered to take a little time/effort to provide basic context?
And it sure as heck didn't help that you know what the "correct answer" was (i.e. read the patch notes.) If you had attempted to read the notes and then made the claim that you didn't understand them and needed clarification, then folks would have been more likely to be helpful instead of sarcastic.
tl;dr - OP was rude. OP doesn't have the moral high ground. OP should apologize. WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Rin Valador
Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces
103
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:30:00 -
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Yay I feel justified! \o/
No hard feelings OP just poking fun! "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6770
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:34:00 -
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hmm, maybe some people don't speak English. Go Go Google Translate:
-+Has le+¡do las notas del parche? |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Noir. Mercenary Group
694
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:46:00 -
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Wnaethoch chi ddarllen y nodiadau patch? I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1120
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:51:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Rannasha Kore wrote:Are you using Geckos? All drones except for Geckos had their base damage adjusted to compensate for the DI nerf. Geckos were introduced with their post-patch values already in place, so before the patch they benefited from both the old DI and the improved base damage. Winner. 2 Geckos featured in the flight of 5. Well i guess it was a tad overpowered.. It's interesting that all but 3 of the people who replied to this post had thousands of likes yet provided no content aside from low level sarcasm. The one person with likes still in single digits nailed it hard with no attitude.. It's like the worlds gone upside down in GD as always :D
You gave **** all for details in your OP and you expect people to come up directly with the right answer? |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1526
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:57:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote: It's interesting that all but 3 of the people who replied to this post had thousands of likes yet provided no content aside from low level sarcasm.
nothing really strange according to "Eve Online adult player base"
Hint: kids always think that it is 'colorfull language' or cigarettes or alcohol which makes people adults.....
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Ralph King-Griffin
Viziam Amarr Empire
2081
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Posted - 2014.06.17 20:05:00 -
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Rin Valador wrote:Yay I feel justified! \o/
No hard feelings OP just poking fun!
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
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