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Locutus Mind
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.20 13:56:00 -
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I would love to shoot out a full flight of sentries in my paladin it makes blitzing that much better. plus what do we put in utility slots now that we have MTU and salvagers? |
Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
240
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Posted - 2014.06.20 14:13:00 -
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Locutus Mind wrote:I would love to shoot out a full flight of sentries in my paladin it makes blitzing that much better. plus what do we put in utility slots now that we have MTU and salvagers?
Drone Links, obviously ;)
Anyway on a more serious note, if that would be implemented I'm afraid you would not like what CCP would do to your turret damage and to be honest, I personally would prefer turret damage over drone damage. Not that it matters that much for me as given the options I personally would pick a Nightmare over Plaladin anyway. But give me ~1200 - 1500 dps of instant damage out to 100 km and ofc I would switch. It would be dumb to not do given how OP it would be. Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2014.06.20 14:18:00 -
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Locutus Mind wrote:I would love to shoot out a full flight of sentries in my paladin it makes blitzing that much better. plus what do we put in utility slots now that we have MTU and salvagers? I still put two tractors in my highs. And one nos.
I don't salvage and loot everything so I will selectively tractor in battleship wrecks and have drones salvage. Once all the easy-to-reach BS wrecks are sucked dry I move on to the next room. I feel like I can keep a decent pace and still get all the GOOD stuff out of the mission this way. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2225
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Posted - 2014.06.20 14:51:00 -
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This is one of the worst and dumbest posts i've seen on this forum. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Mizhir
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
63711
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Posted - 2014.06.20 15:13:00 -
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Who wants to see doomsday devices on rifters? One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories Vertical.
635
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:37:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Who wants to see doomsday devices on rifters?
I do. Death to all supers. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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iu'ra
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
4
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:58:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Who wants to see doomsday devices on rifters?
I want to see them on Velators |
Kasutra
Tailor Company Company Company
281
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:17:00 -
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Just increasing the bandwidth to sentry-levels on the existing marauders is obviously a dumb idea.
That being said...
I would have liked to see the Kronos as a focused drone marauder. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
565
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:47:00 -
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There are plenty of ships that do more damage with guns or missiles that have vastly larger drone bays.
Imo, no BS should have less than 50 and the bandwidth to use it.
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:49:00 -
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Kasutra wrote:Just increasing the bandwidth to sentry-levels on the existing marauders is obviously a dumb idea.
That being said...
I would have liked to see the Kronos as a focused drone marauder. We already have pirate battleships that do both high DPS and get high bandwidth. And unique bonuses. What's especially stupid about this idea? |
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
942
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:28:00 -
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Locutus Mind wrote:I would love to shoot out a full flight of sentries in my paladin it makes blitzing that much better. plus what do we put in utility slots now that we have MTU and salvagers?
I also would like 8 turret slots for double the DPS. Of course add 4 more high slots to keep utility slots. How awesome would that be? |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
15
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:03:00 -
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iu'ra wrote:Mizhir wrote:Who wants to see doomsday devices on rifters? I want to see them on Velators
they should replace the gun that noob ships have when you get them for free. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
944
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:44:00 -
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Kasutra wrote:Just increasing the bandwidth to sentry-levels on the existing marauders is obviously a dumb idea.
That being said...
I would have liked to see the Kronos as a focused drone marauder.
Kronos based on the Dominix would be sexy! The problem is too many people cry about sentry drones being OP |
Locutus Mind
Viziam Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.06.20 22:39:00 -
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i love the posts I just am wanting a blitzier way to be a pwnmobile in l4s. marauders are awesome can solo l4s easy. im just uber lazy of engaging my targets. btw strategic battleships t3 who would have thought. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:13:00 -
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Locutus Mind wrote:I would love to shoot out a full flight of sentries in my paladin it makes blitzing that much better. plus what do we put in utility slots now that we have MTU and salvagers?
In my opinion, they would become too overpowered... I like them where they are at the moment, able to kill and tank heavy stuff easily while their flight of drones takes care of frigates up close... |
stoicfaux
5023
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:36:00 -
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What would be the optimal mix of tractor sentries and salvage sentries?
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Locutus Mind
Viziam Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:57:00 -
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at the moment i warp to site mdj to 100km away from rats. deploy mtu kill everything release salvage drones. I have no use for my extra utilities I figure if I can throe out sentries I can put in remote repairs. this is how I feel the paladin was designed to fly |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
944
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Posted - 2014.06.21 05:07:00 -
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Locutus Mind wrote:at the moment i warp to site mdj to 100km away from rats. deploy mtu kill everything release salvage drones. I have no use for my extra utilities I figure if I can throe out sentries I can put in remote repairs. this is how I feel the paladin was designed to fly
It sounds nice but at 100 km without tracking links the only drones that will hit are Wardens (75 + 42 km). With max drone skills 5 unbonused Warden II's put out 231 DPS. Compared to over 1k turret DPS of the Paladin this is nothing to get excited about at all.
Compare that to a ship that gives bonuses to drones like the Dominix... Bouncer II's with 110 + 95 km doing 660 DPS.
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Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2014.06.21 07:24:00 -
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Locutus Mind wrote:at the moment i warp to site mdj to 100km away from rats. deploy mtu kill everything release salvage drones. I have no use for my extra utilities I figure if I can throe out sentries I can put in remote repairs. this is how I feel the paladin was designed to fly
Have you tried deploying mtu and then jumping away, so that the rats die around 100km from you near the mtu ? :)
(oviously may not work in heavy population areas with many ninja looters) |
Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2014.06.21 07:25:00 -
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Anyways, i would like to see a drone marauder, dunno if that counts :) |
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
284
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Posted - 2014.06.22 10:28:00 -
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I don't want to see Marauders with increased bandwidth, nor a drone Marauder (the Rattlesnake is pretty much where that would have to be and the way the meta levels work the Marauder would have to be worse than the Rattler).
I do however remember the original "long deployment" role of the Marauder class and would therefore like to see all Marauders reduced to 25MBit bandwidth - with drone bays of 150m3 at minimum, 250m3 would be preferred; and the Bastion module changed to add 25% drone hitpoints and/or 25% drone shield resists while active (in addition to its current effects.
This would give Marauders multiple flights of very survivable drones but also plenty of space to carry additional utility. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1128
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Posted - 2014.06.22 20:12:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Locutus Mind wrote:at the moment i warp to site mdj to 100km away from rats. deploy mtu kill everything release salvage drones. I have no use for my extra utilities I figure if I can throe out sentries I can put in remote repairs. this is how I feel the paladin was designed to fly It sounds nice but at 100 km without tracking links the only drones that will hit are Wardens (75 + 42 km). With max drone skills 5 unbonused Warden II's put out 231 DPS. Compared to over 1k turret DPS of the Paladin this is nothing to get excited about at all. Compare that to a ship that gives bonuses to drones like the Dominix... Bouncer II's with 110 + 95 km doing 660 DPS. From your description it sounds like you're talking about a MJD Dominix rather than a Paladin to me If your 1k figure is exact, that's still 23.1% dps increase. That's close to adding a 5%/lvl damage bonus to your weapon system. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
946
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Posted - 2014.06.22 20:26:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:IIshira wrote:Locutus Mind wrote:at the moment i warp to site mdj to 100km away from rats. deploy mtu kill everything release salvage drones. I have no use for my extra utilities I figure if I can throe out sentries I can put in remote repairs. this is how I feel the paladin was designed to fly It sounds nice but at 100 km without tracking links the only drones that will hit are Wardens (75 + 42 km). With max drone skills 5 unbonused Warden II's put out 231 DPS. Compared to over 1k turret DPS of the Paladin this is nothing to get excited about at all. Compare that to a ship that gives bonuses to drones like the Dominix... Bouncer II's with 110 + 95 km doing 660 DPS. From your description it sounds like you're talking about a MJD Dominix rather than a Paladin to me If your 1k figure is exact, that's still 23.1% dps increase. That's close to adding a 5%/lvl damage bonus to your weapon system. I fly both a Paladin and Golem. Both do over 1k DPS.
Of course a Marauder is going to do more damage than the Dominix. It also requires you to manually lock and engage targets.
My main point was sentry drones are nice but in a ship that gives no drone bonuses and without drone modules they're not that great.
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Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
451
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:55:00 -
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I would like to see a drone ship that can do over 1k dps with drones alone. It's not unreasonable for other weapon systems to get that high, but drones are basically limited to 800-ish max on bonused platforms. In order to get above that, you have to add another weapon system on top. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
947
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Posted - 2014.06.22 23:02:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote:I would like to see a drone ship that can do over 1k dps with drones alone. It's not unreasonable for other weapon systems to get that high, but drones are basically limited to 800-ish max on bonused platforms. In order to get above that, you have to add another weapon system on top. Agreed but it won't happen in its current state. CCP nerfs drones because of their AFK potential. For some reason they won't remove the "Aggressive" option. That would solve the whole thing. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
610
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:14:00 -
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The aggressive option is what makes them useful to non drone boats.
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:13:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:The aggressive option is what makes them useful to non drone boats. No, not really, if my drones dont have buffed HP I don't want them flying anywhere they're not explicitly told to go. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
947
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:21:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:The aggressive option is what makes them useful to non drone boats. It's not that hard to manually target and press the F key. |
Dato Koppla
Elite Guards
618
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Posted - 2014.06.23 05:56:00 -
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The aggressive option is useful, removing it would remove some of the useful utility of drones. Yeah sure it's abused by the AFK-Ishtars doing sites but there are many others who uses it for legit reasons. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1129
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:24:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:The aggressive option is useful, removing it would remove some of the useful utility of drones. Yeah sure it's abused by the AFK-Ishtars doing sites but there are many others who uses it for legit reasons.
Beside getting hit by ECM, I don't see what make agressive setting all that good. They should scrap it imo as it's most lilely server side calculation of what the damn thing attack. |
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