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Pamplemousse Lacroix
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 10:26:00 -
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I would like to see a fourth battleship hull added to each major faction. An Ewar hull for Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente perhaps. A third combat-oriented hull for Caldari maybe. BS sized logistic hulls might be an interesting experiment as well.
I don't have specific ideas really. Amarr TD/remote tracking enhancer hull, Minmatar TP or web bonus hull, Gallente remote sensor booster or sensor dampener hull. For the Caldari....a combat missile BS with bonuses favorable for brawling.
Just some of my thoughts. Share yours! |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:17:00 -
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No... They need to fix the imbalance there is already... The Maelstrom, Abaddon, Rokh and Hyperion are rarely used by anyone... They need to fix these somehow... |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:29:00 -
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No
And I though Goons all know much more about the game and how to break it then most ...
There must be a role and a need for said role to create a new ship type, not just for the new shiny or the LOLs or just because I WANTZ IT or 'It's my way of saying *Hi* to the forum'. Every hint, since you are not really making a suggestion is already taken by other ships and just to repeat an existing hull as a battleship, 'just because' is not going to happen and won't find any support except maybe from the known 'yay sayers' .
There is nothing wrong with making suggestion, just come up with a decent concept, see if it is necessary, its role not taken by anything else, then try to break it and formulate it, maybe with some stats.
Just throwing something out and leaving the rest with 'now you got something to talk about' is just cluttering the forum and inciting common bickering between the yes - no - yes - no - yes - no posters. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:34:00 -
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Amarr kinda have the "ewar" hull in the form of geddon.
Neuts aren't ewar but racial warfare tactics go: Amarr: neuts/tds Minmatar: tp/webs Gallente: damps/disruptors and scrams Caldari: Ecm/burst ecm
Target painting battleship for one would be sure to get some use if it could fit proper tank. At least in bigger fleet fights where painters die too quickly.
Not sure if for better or worse.
I don't think web bonused and scram/point range bonused battleship should come out in the form of t1 unless the bonus was very small as the effect is very big.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Pamplemousse Lacroix
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:47:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:No And I though Goons all know much more about the game and how to break it then most ... There must be a role and a need for said role to create a new ship type, not just for the new shiny or the LOLs or just because I WANTZ IT or 'It's my way of saying *Hi* to the forum'. Every hint, since you are not really making a suggestion is already taken by other ships and just to repeat an existing hull as a battleship, 'just because' is not going to happen and won't find any support except maybe from the known 'yay sayers' . There is nothing wrong with making suggestion, just come up with a decent concept, see if it is necessary, its role not taken by anything else, then try to break it and formulate it, maybe with some stats. Just throwing something out and leaving the rest with 'now you got something to talk about' is just cluttering the forum and inciting common bickering between the yes - no - yes - no - yes - no posters.
If you would like a specific example I would be happy to provide one. Thank you for your posting suggestions.
Amarr Battleship: Apostate (all the names of the BS line are dramatic and start with A so I have followed suit)
Slot layout 6 high 5 mid 7 low 5 launcher 5 turret 50 MB bandwidth 75m3 drone bay
Amarr BS bonus 7.5% per level to tracking disruptor AND remote tracking enhancer effectiveness; 10% per level Optimal range bonus for tracking enhancer and remote tracking enhancer
Stat line could be similar in spirit to the scorpion (though armor focused in this case).
This is a more specific example of what I had in mind.
I agree that some of the existing battleships are struggling to find their place in EVE, I don't think that more diversity among tech 1 hulls would hurt those vessels (tempest, abaddon, etc), and may even help them a bit, in the rock/paper/scissors meta of null sec, for example (meta might become rock/paper/scissors/lizard/spock). |
Khan Wrenth
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:47:00 -
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Well now that this thread exists, might as well make some use of it.
Could someone tell me why Caldari have that odd man out when it comes to battleships? They are the only race with an EWAR battleship, and it seems very peculiar. I'm just curious as to the dev's reasoning when the hull was first brought into the game. |
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies Evictus.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:51:00 -
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The only justification for a 4th BS hull would be to serve the purpose of Logistics since there is no middle ground between a T2 cruiser and a carrier. However, on that note, is a BS logistics hull even needed? Is there demand out there for higher Logi support that doesn't extend into the capital class? Maybe, maybe not.
As for EWAR, two of the four factions already have a BS hull specifically set up for their respective EWAR type, and as it has already been stated, the BS hulls for the other two would throw ship balances even more out of wack until CCP was able to fix it in another 5 years. |
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies Evictus.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:55:00 -
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Khan Wrenth wrote:Well now that this thread exists, might as well make some use of it.
Could someone tell me why Caldari have that odd man out when it comes to battleships? They are the only race with an EWAR battleship, and it seems very peculiar. I'm just curious as to the dev's reasoning when the hull was first brought into the game.
Who says Neutralizers are not a form of EWAR? |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.06.22 12:24:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:No... They need to fix the imbalance there is already... The Maelstrom, Abaddon, Rokh and Hyperion are rarely used by anyone... They need to fix these somehow...
The hype may be a little under used, but the other three are getting used about as much as other BS's.
The rokh is already a good brawler. Geddon is already an e-war BS. Phoon is already the bellicoses big brother (that got a exp vel bonus instead of TP bonus)
The only gap is the gal line up id say. Doubt were gonna get 4 new BS's just to neaten that up. And i doubt the hyp will get redone, its pretty good at what it does. its just not a job that often needs fulfilled. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
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