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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:32:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Sibyyl wrote: Because it's an opinion on something that's happened in the past, and not an imminent threat made against a living person.
It's in very bad taste, and I really don't like living in a world where people say these things but I think it's a very slippery slope if I let these feelings dictate who gets gagged and who doesn't.
Bad taste has been bannable for some time, Sibyyl. You might have missed the memo, Ripard Teg took it upon himself to open that particular can of worms a while back. I personally believe that, if bad taste is bannable now, that such a doctrine be applied equally across the board. Bad taste has been bannable in Eve long before E1 or Ripard Teg started playing eve. For example: Linking pron gifs in jita local. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:35:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Whereas someone directing abuse against a "bad guy" is given much, much more leeway. As evidenced by the fact that anyone from the Miner Grab Bag is still allowed to play EVE Online.
Hmmmm, I wonder why that is. This is a real tough one, this is. Maybe: You set out to **** someone off, and ..... wait for it..... you succeeded? Hmmm, That was hard. Eve is an interesting game because you can **** people off. But don't act surprised when you succeed. It just makes you look like a disingenuous ****. And that should extend to GM arbitration? Really? As a consequence for legitimate in game actions? I mean, if we are going to just come right out and say that the GMs will be acting in a biased fashion, fine, but at least make it official. Wow, people using common sense in the application of a rule set. Who woulda thunk it?
Yes, if an individual or group of players **** of or otherwise harass an individual, a GM may give the target individual a bit of leeway and let them cool off. Just like in any MMO ever made. |
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:39:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Common courtesy is to not speak ill of the dead,
Sounds noble enough
Jonah Gravenstein wrote: especially when it's one of our own. but then you go and completely invalidate it with this. This states that in your eyes there *are* situations in which it is acceptable. Probably when it's someone who isn't "one of your own".
Which is what the rage in this thread boils down to. VR apparently needs to be set aside as a special case where permanent banning needs to take place because he was a notable figure in the eyes of some alliances and groups.
If VR had been a carebear that kept to NPC corps or had a 1man mining corp for himself, the only threads we would have seen on the forum would have been "can I have his stuff?", even if the notice of passing was posted by the persons widow.
If CCP wants to ban people for speaking in a derogatory manner of the dead, it needs to apply equally to everyone. It's fine to set a precedent with VR, he's probably a good example of how someone can affect communities even after they are gone, but the rule needs to apply evenly to everyone, even carebears.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:40:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote: Wow, people using common sense in the application of a rule set. Who woulda thunk it?
Yes, if an individual or group of players **** of or otherwise harass an individual, a GM may give the target individual a bit of leeway and let them cool off. Just like in any MMO ever made.
Ah, so please point to the section of the EULA or ToS where vile language and real life death threats are permissible under certain circumstances, and what precisely those circumstances are. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:40:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:freighter ganking vs. CODE thread?. Where did I mention either of those things in any of my posts? I have personally never had a problem with either of those things. I live in low and null sec.
I'm just saying that common sense has the answer to "why does the GM let the mean [insert target here] get away with verbally harassing me after I [insert disruptive activity here] him for 16 hours straight." |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:41:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote: but then you go and completely invalidate it with this. This states that in your eyes there *are* situations in which it is acceptable. Probably when it's someone who isn't "one of your own".
"one of our own" means EVE player, you obtuse imbecile. The rest of your carebear apologist ranting is out of place here. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Komi Toran
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:42:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I personally believe that, if bad taste is bannable now, that such a doctrine be applied equally across the board. I'd much rather CCP apologize to Ero and reinstate the account(s).
'Course, I'd rather a lot of things happen. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:42:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote: I'm just saying that common sense has the answer to "why does the GM let the mean [insert target here] get away with verbally harassing me after I [insert disruptive activity here] him for 16 hours straight."
Common sense tells you that one of those things is not permitted by the game rules, and one of them is.
The end. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.23 18:44:00 -
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Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.23 21:23:00 -
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Right, after having done some background reading, reading the entire thread and finding out a previous thread on the same subject already existed (albeit locked), I have come to the conclusion it would be best to leave this thread locked.
I have however removed the most obvious rule breaking posts, mainly consisting of blatant personal attacks, trolling and lines about forum moderation and/or GM actions and bans. Of course including the ones quoting them. Let me assure you, if I would also have removed all off topic posts and posts containing minor rule infractions, this thread would have been reduced to less than two pages.
Thread indefinitely locked. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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