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Orny
Shipping Corporation Global ANZUS
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Posted - 2014.06.25 02:42:00 -
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Tks for the update CCP Habakuk |
Potions Master
Friar's Club
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Posted - 2014.06.25 03:16:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Regan Rotineque wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:Would it be possible to alter the mirror script so that *highsec* POSes (and the jobs in them) aren't nuked when the mirror is taken? There's no intel to protect for highsec POSes (unlike lowsec, nullsec, and WH POSes). This would allow you to test the Crius upgrade script's handling of in-progress jobs. It also would make life incrementally easier for people to test POS things on Sisi.
MDD Question forwarded to CCP, fao CCP Habakuk. Normally I would deny this request, but I will bring it up with our DB specialists, as we are messing around with the mirror preparation scripts anyway. It is still quite unlikely as deleting only some POS structures is much slower and more failure prone than deleting whole DB tables. Although sounding like a good idea it is not.....war targets and others will be able to unmolested to hs towers and scan them to see what you have in them. There is a reason that all this data needs to be wiped. Nobody should gain a strategic advantage using SISi. I realize its a pita to set up new POS online stuff and restart jobs but its also a good test of some pretty old code that should be tested and retested with each release. Very good argument. Yeah, even high sec POS can hold secrets. PS: Short update on the progress: Everything is going as planned so far. Tomorrow we will have a few further tests in VIP mode for making sure that all industry jobs were upgraded correctly and then we will need to prepare the DB for public use (delete all POS and similar). My current estimate would be late Wednesday or (more likely) Thursday morning.
I usually prep my towers ahead of time when I know there's going to be a mirror so nothing of importance gets lost, but I have had a thought on preserving said data for those who need it/surprise mirrors like this one. Would it be fairly easy to backup the pos content table before you delete it and make a quick script to automate delivery of said items to a station hangar? So you could just dock up in a station, go to the 'deliver' channel and type 'deliver' and anything item-wise you had at your towers gets dropped in your personal hangar (if you have the roles for it) in containers labeled after where they were or something. (Don't know how much lag or whatever this would cause, but just a database list copy/add from one spot to another right?)
Just a thought that would help those who keep important things at their towers. (IE: Wormholeers, NPC Nullsec dwellers, Lowsec pioneers, etc...)
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10525
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Posted - 2014.06.25 04:06:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Starfury Shang wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Well, serious news: the database of Singularity is irreversibly damaged and needs to be re-mirrored. How does something like that happen, and is TQ ever at risk for that? I would assume SiSi isn't backed up as it is not a 'production' server, so if TQ had problems they would restore a backup and roll forward any logs. This, and also the fact that the setup for Singularity is far from optimal due to very limited disk space - which puts it at much higher risk. How often is TQ backed up? Every downtime, or less frequently? No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
elitatwo
Congregatio
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Posted - 2014.06.25 09:54:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: -snip- How often is TQ backed up? Every downtime, or less frequently?
e2 waves her arms like a Jedi-
This is not for nosy goofswarm folks to know. You don't want to sell killer-sticks. You want to go home and think about your life. signature |
Sulpa
Mechanized Industrial Warfare Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:08:00 -
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i Would like this account activated please |
Wedge Rancer
Bookmark Both Sides Exit Strategy..
11
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:09:00 -
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Sulpa wrote:i Would like this account activated please This is defiently not the thread to post that.
Also I saw VIP Mode on SISI earlier + a patch. Hopefully this means CCP are making progress on getting SISI fixed :D |
Supreme clientele
ETERNAL WALTZ
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:27:00 -
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he said thursday...... |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:28:00 -
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Regan Rotineque wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:Would it be possible to alter the mirror script so that *highsec* POSes (and the jobs in them) aren't nuked when the mirror is taken? There's no intel to protect for highsec POSes (unlike lowsec, nullsec, and WH POSes). This would allow you to test the Crius upgrade script's handling of in-progress jobs. It also would make life incrementally easier for people to test POS things on Sisi.
MDD Question forwarded to CCP, fao CCP Habakuk. Normally I would deny this request, but I will bring it up with our DB specialists, as we are messing around with the mirror preparation scripts anyway. It is still quite unlikely as deleting only some POS structures is much slower and more failure prone than deleting whole DB tables. Although sounding like a good idea it is not.....war targets and others will be able to unmolested to hs towers and scan them to see what you have in them. There is a reason that all this data needs to be wiped. Nobody should gain a strategic advantage using SISi. I realize its a pita to set up new POS online stuff and restart jobs but its also a good test of some pretty old code that should be tested and retested with each release. Forgive me for being blunt, but you're nuts. Nothing prevents a "war target or other" from going to your tower in highsec on TQ and seeing what you have online. War targets would use a cloaked ship or an out-of-corp alt. "Others" will simply go look.
And as for your dismissive attitude indicating it's but a small "pita", you've obviously not dealt with the problem of *LOSING* BPOs on Sisi. You see, when the POS is nuked, all of the blueprints in jobs on it are obliterated, too. Do you have any idea how much a hassle it is to re-acquire those blueprints? Not to mention that you lose all the blueprints' research, too.
Hababuk, can you at least return the blueprints to the station?
MDD |
GazBoi08
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:30:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Regan Rotineque wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:Would it be possible to alter the mirror script so that *highsec* POSes (and the jobs in them) aren't nuked when the mirror is taken? There's no intel to protect for highsec POSes (unlike lowsec, nullsec, and WH POSes). This would allow you to test the Crius upgrade script's handling of in-progress jobs. It also would make life incrementally easier for people to test POS things on Sisi.
MDD Question forwarded to CCP, fao CCP Habakuk. Normally I would deny this request, but I will bring it up with our DB specialists, as we are messing around with the mirror preparation scripts anyway. It is still quite unlikely as deleting only some POS structures is much slower and more failure prone than deleting whole DB tables. Although sounding like a good idea it is not.....war targets and others will be able to unmolested to hs towers and scan them to see what you have in them. There is a reason that all this data needs to be wiped. Nobody should gain a strategic advantage using SISi. I realize its a pita to set up new POS online stuff and restart jobs but its also a good test of some pretty old code that should be tested and retested with each release. Forgive me for being blunt, but you're nuts. Nothing prevents a "war target or other" from going to your tower in highsec on TQ and seeing what you have online. War targets would use a cloaked ship or an out-of-corp alt. "Others" will simply go look. And as for your dismissive attitude indicating it's but a small "pita", you've obviously not dealt with the problem of *LOSING* BPOs on Sisi. You see, when the POS is nuked, all of the blueprints in jobs on it are obliterated, too. Do you have any idea how much a hassle it is to re-acquire those blueprints? Not to mention that you lose all the blueprints' research, too. Hababuk, can you at least return the blueprints to the station? MDD
uhh BPO's are seeded.. |
Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
356
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:05:00 -
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Seeded BPOs plus its a test environment and almost everything is 100 isk......
reminds me of the guy that once argued that all his minerals were missing....im like go buy 100 thanatos and melt them
that being said i by no means was being dismissive.....i have run towers all over eve....and when a mirror happens i too hate that i have to go set stuff up again. However its a few hours to get things up and since everything is cheap and seeded it really is not that inconvenient. In fact there are things I have tweaked when i set tham up. I feel for our WH brothers because they have nonother options in their WH when SiSi is wiped.....but us highsec and null folks have zip to complain about......though the dude that builds supers and titans G¥ñn+Å i haz sum feelings fer u
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
957
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:05:00 -
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Singularity is back online on the new mirror. Everything was a bit faster today than expected.
Skill points for mass tests will be applied within the next few hours. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
345
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:35:00 -
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Regan Rotineque wrote:Seeded BPOs plus its a test environment and almost everything is 100 isk...... WTB seeded ME6 freighter BPOs, ME100 component BPOs, seeded Light Neutron Blaster II BPOs ... Oh wait...
MDD |
Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
356
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Posted - 2014.06.25 21:12:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Regan Rotineque wrote:Seeded BPOs plus its a test environment and almost everything is 100 isk...... WTB seeded ME6 freighter BPOs, ME100 component BPOs, seeded Light Neutron Blaster II BPOs ... Oh wait... MDD
what in heavens name difference does having 100 ME prints make in an environment where you have unlimited minerals? As for t2 BPOs i hope those die some day but thanks for letting me know which one you have and that it is in your POS.
SiSi is for testing...and yes some things are not perfect...but this round of testing is essential...as indy is changing so much. so go buy some new BPOs research them....or use them unresearched. Make new copies..now that there are unlimited slots it should be fairly easy in high sec stations to run these off like crap through a goose.
And i should point out that there is no such thing as an ME100 BPO anymore....if your expecting to find one you should prepare for much butthurt now when you see ME10 is what you have now :) |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2014.06.26 03:39:00 -
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Part of testing Sisi is to compare what the blueprints do now versus what they do on the Crius release. It's pretty hard to run those test when CCP destroys my blueprints.
But go ahead Regan. You obviously know everything.
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