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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1921
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Posted - 2014.06.24 17:54:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'm currently at work and can't send a in game mail. Since I have an attention span of a squirrel on acid, would prolly not ask for one when I get home. Would enjoy the reading material to keep me awake at work! You do know you can send an EVEmail from the forums if you're signed in don't you? Just click on the name of the pilot you want to mail and the option is there. Oh I know, but I'm using my cell atm. I usually have my laptop, but I left it in the fridge this morning. For some reason, my cell does not register any buttons when I compose a evemail... EVE needs more Pssshhhh |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1313
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:22:00 -
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I've been active in the New Order for a long time now, and I don't know that I've ever been in a situation before where I have ever felt a fellow Agent made a wrong decision (we are just that good, obviously). However, I must say that this thread and the one that preceded it are completely gratuitous and unnecessary. They only serve to dredge up memories of a recent tragedy and to give this SEAL character, an obvious attention *****, exactly the attention he is looking for.
It would have been better to petition the guy, then use internal channels of communication to let us know that this individual is an Enemy of Highsec, to be targeted using in-game, non-EULA violating tactics, in the likely event that he doesn't get perma banned. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
745
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:35:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:I've been active in the New Order for a long time now, and I don't know that I've ever been in a situation before where I have ever felt a fellow Agent made a wrong decision (we are just that good, obviously). However, I must say that this thread and the one that preceded it are completely gratuitous and unnecessary. They only serve to dredge up memories of a recent tragedy and to give this SEAL character, an obvious attention *****, exactly the attention he is looking for.
It would have been better to petition the guy, then use internal channels of communication to let us know that this individual is an Enemy of Highsec, to be targeted using in-game, non-EULA violating tactics, in the likely event that he doesn't get perma banned. Well making his name public was probably a mistake. Honestly this statement is needed though even if it should be in the (dead) alliance discussion forum or whatever its called. There are many agents in the NO that like to throw mud at anti-gankers and carebears for their overblown threats, but are willfully ignorant at how rude they come across in chat to those players. I hope CODE. will work on this in the future as the primary alliance representing the New Order. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
14706
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:38:00 -
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Cant we all just get along and come together over our mutual love of Bacon?
Can we not just use local for the friendly exchange of Cat gifs and demotivational posters instead of hurling insults at one another?
Lets just love each other with a little antimatter, get on teamspeak and sing some damn songs in the spirit of good gameplay. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
166
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:54:00 -
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Frankly, everybody is talking too much about an issue that was better left to rot in silence... Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4075
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:55:00 -
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I dunno what the fuss is about really... Usually when I'm pissed drunk people have to beat the crap out of me so I won't sing.
Also what UaE said above. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5033
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:56:00 -
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Even smacktalk has limits, as such even hell has commandments.
Hopefully any emerging code of conduct that evolves into this is still best left to the players so long as the activity is still in the game, and best left to CCP when it breaches the boundaries of the game.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
520
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:06:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:I've been active in the New Order for a long time now, and I don't know that I've ever been in a situation before where I have ever felt a fellow Agent made a wrong decision (we are just that good, obviously). However, I must say that this thread and the one that preceded it are completely gratuitous and unnecessary. They only serve to dredge up memories of a recent tragedy and to give this SEAL character, an obvious attention *****, exactly the attention he is looking for.
It would have been better to petition the guy, then use internal channels of communication to let us know that this individual is an Enemy of Highsec, to be targeted using in-game, non-EULA violating tactics, in the likely event that he doesn't get perma banned.
I understand your point and see where you are coming from.
Please understand - we have no desire to dredge up painful memories of a tragedy. That was Fallen SEAL's decision. He did it for attention, and we feel the community may want to show him how badly this type of attention seeking can backfire badly, and that the attention he will receive will be of a type that causes him to learn a very tough lesson.
Many players were present and may have used the support ticket system. We are not calling for his ban or any action by CCP by sharing this information in this way - but you can be assured that support tickets were filed.
The reason we are sharing this information is a hope for the very thing you just mentioned - a in-game, non-EULA violating response by anyone who feels that a in-game response to Fallen SEAL's in game actions is justified. |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
188
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:14:00 -
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+1 Well played good sirs. I am in total support to clean up hatred and malicious content from the game.
o7 o7 o7 o7 o7 |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
522
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:37:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:+1 Well played good sirs. I am in total support to clean up hatred and malicious content from the game.
o7 o7 o7 o7 o7
Thank you.
For anyone who experienced a delay in getting a copy of the logs in question, I am sorry - it's been a FLOOD of requests!
For anyone else who would like to look them over - just get a EVEmail to me and I will get them to you as fast as I possibly can.
Please note - in the logs is a in-game link that you can drag and drop into any chat channel. Please consider taking the time to share this with everyone you can, as those of us that use the forums are not the majority of the EVE online players.
I'm counting on all of you who feel the same as I do - those who feel the logs need to be freely shared and open to the public to read and come to their own decisions - to share this message with as many people as you can. We can't do this without you.
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
718
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:53:00 -
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It is good this is being discussed. We should all re-familiarize ourselves with what brings us together; Eve Online. Whether you're members of a rival alliance, or corp, or coalition, or pirate, or carebear, the one thing we all have in common is we play this sort of broken, yet great game. Some of us love it and some of us not so much and log on for other reasons. Regardless, we are all a part of the Eve Online community. And, when anyone see's a player going too far, we should voice our concern despite if he/she is on the same team, etc.
Being a pirate for so many years I've met many of anger players and whenever talking with them I remind myself that I would be upset too, to a degree, and the fact that we are all connected in the Eve Universe and play the same game together.
Let's not forget though, nothing says I love you like a Killmail
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
527
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:54:00 -
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Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:Frankly, everybody is talking too much about an issue that was better left to rot in silence...
No.
There is nothing wrong with everyone talking about something. The very nature and purpose of any online community is for members to come together and communicate.
As for leaving it to "rot in silence" - no. Not going to happen. Silence is consent and approval when it comes to some things, and the actions of this player are a prime example of one of these things.
Have a little bit of faith in your fellow community member and trust that openly sharing information and having discussions about in-game events is a good thing, and that most members of this community are reasonable human beings who can look over the logs if they want and make up their own minds. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
529
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:56:00 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:It is good this is being discussed. We should all re-familiarize ourselves with what brings us together; Eve Online. Whether you're members of a rival alliance, or corp, or coalition, or pirate, or carebear, the one thing we all have in common is we play this sort of broken, yet great game. Some of us love it and some of us not so much and log on for other reasons. Regardless, we are all a part of the Eve Online community. And, when anyone see's a player going too far, we should voice our concern despite if he/she is on the same team, etc. Being a pirate for so many years I've met many of anger players and whenever talking with them I remind myself that I would be upset too, to a degree, and the fact that we are all connected in the Eve Universe and play the same game together. Let's not forget though, nothing says I love you like a Killmail
Best post of the day!
I urge everyone to look over the logs and please send a lot of love in the form of kill mails and other fun sources of in-game mayhem and lulz :) |
Rennseslear X
The 3 Roids Enterprises The 3 Roids Enterprises Alliance
28
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:59:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Lets just love each other with a little antimatter, get on teamspeak and sing some damn songs in the spirit of good gameplay.
No, Ripard Teg has decided that antimatter, teamspeak, and singing songs are now bannable offences in EvE EWE OAR SOFA KING WE TALL DID |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5795
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:00:00 -
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I think the purpose of this thread should not be the highlighting of this one issue in isolation, but the continued wish by those of us grown up enough to see the growing issue of unecessary name-called, beligerance and general schoolyard activity in local, in commchats and within our own corps and alliances, and working together to say that this is somethin that we do not find acceptable. "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. There is no Saviour but James 315 and Omir Sarakusa is his Prophet (PBUH) La ilaha illjames |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
625
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:07:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:lets not have another witch hunt.
I need a cyno in Salem plz.
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
532
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:11:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:I think the purpose of this thread should not be the highlighting of this one issue in isolation, but the continued wish by those of us grown up enough to see the growing issue of unecessary name-called, beligerance and general schoolyard activity in local, in commchats and within our own corps and alliances, and working together to say that this is somethin that we do not find acceptable.
Your post is one of the best things I have read all day, and I thank you for saying it.
Good natured and silly smacktalk is a great thing, and can be one of the most silly but fun aspects of the game, but everywhere you go - there are always some people who have to go that extra mile and take things way too far.
Blowing up people's spaceships, conning them out of their money, using their mistakes to result in your profit, piracy, spying, betrayal, all of these things are part of the game and really just basic game mechanics. I do them all, daily, and at no time have I ever had to insult the person behind the keyboard. Ever. It's just not called for.
I am, however, totally guilty of something you mentioned. On many a character during my years of playing EVE - I have seen members of my fleet, corp or alliance act in a way that is just over the top and totally uncalled for. And I said NOTHING about it as they were on the same team as me, and I did not want to be the ONE person out of many who called them out for it.
The events of this last week have changed my mind and made me realize my mistake, and I am not going to make it again. Think of how amazing it would be if the leaders of every single major corporation and alliance came together to agree that personal attacks are not cool - and that if their members do it, they are not welcome. Suddenly, the minority of players that feel behaving in a downright toxic way would need to make changes to the way they behave or learn to enjoy EVE with a bunch of isboxed accounts for backup when they want fleet warfare. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1874
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:14:00 -
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Oh look, this thread again.
Yes everyone on the internet, and especially in a video game, should be nice to their fellow human beings and show a basic level of courtesy to all. But while we're on the subject of common courtesy, would it be possible to refrain from the blatant attention seeking threads we've been seeing in GD each day, every day? That too is common courtesy.
If you have a problem with a particular individual or group in this community, take the proper course of action and file a ticket with CCL/GMs/ISD/whatever. There's no need for a new thread documenting internet malcontent #74563241 every. single. day. |
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
29
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:14:00 -
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Oh look another attention whoring thread. |
Ned Thomas
Angry Rockbiters M1NER CONFL1CT
56
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:17:00 -
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Mail sent |
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1959
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:18:00 -
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Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya...
Here's a flower for your gun, OP. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Neesa Corrinne
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:21:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:lets not have another witch hunt.
I've got an even better idea.
How about players not be douchebags? |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:24:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Oh look, this thread again. Yes everyone on the internet, and especially in a video game, should be nice to their fellow human beings and show a basic level of courtesy to all. But while we're on the subject of common courtesy, would it be possible to refrain from the blatant attention seeking threads we've been seeing in GD each day, every day? That too is common courtesy.If you have a problem with a particular individual or group in this community, take the proper course of action and file a ticket with CCL/GMs/ISD/whatever. There's no need for a new thread documenting internet malcontent #74563241 every. single. day.
Scroll up. Your concerns have already been addressed. Yes, everyone knows that the proper course of action is to file a support ticket. Many people who were present filed support tickets. We know. Trust me. We know.
This thread, clearly, is about members of two communities that clash on a daily basis coming together to express a mutual distaste for some of the personal attacks that our members have been part of in the past, and to express a desire to put a stop to that kind of behavior. This thread is also about providing information about a character to any member of the community who would like to take a look at it.
Pretty simple, man :) |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
536
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:26:00 -
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Neesa Corrinne wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:lets not have another witch hunt. I've got an even better idea. How about players not be douchebags?
+1 - and the wonderful part about this - as players we have all the tools we need to make life as hard as possible for those people who choose to be :P |
Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
719
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:38:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote: I am, however, totally guilty of something you mentioned. On many a character during my years of playing EVE - I have seen members of my fleet, corp or alliance act in a way that is just over the top and totally uncalled for. And I said NOTHING about it as they were on the same team as me, and I did not want to be the ONE person out of many who called them out for it.
^this.
It's one thing to do some trolling of someone on fleet comms, or in fleet chat, or in local, but making personal attacks against a player, which happens more often than I'm sure you would give it credit, is absurd.
I am actually guilty of this as well and I'm glad I read this to remind me of that.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
537
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Posted - 2014.06.24 21:05:00 -
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Capt Starfox wrote: I am actually guilty of this as well and I'm glad I read this to remind me of that.
Me too. I've taken things too far more then once, and decided to insult the person behind the keyboard rather then the character in the internet space ship, as it felt like very serious business at the time :)
Glad this whole thing with Fallen SEAL took place - if only so the EVE community can show him the the most pure form of love with kill mails and assorted antics, and to remind me that just keeping quiet when someone is taking things too far is the nice and easy way to deal with it and does not involve me having to make any effort at all - but it's not the *right* thing to do.
I just want to explode all the internet spaceships that are in hi-sec for no reason other then that they can explode and probably don't have a permit, create random friendly alts who will assist random corporations by helping them donate all their internet space gold and shiny things to a noble cause, and further my ultimate goal of owning every single monocle in the universe just so I can keep mine and start a live stream while I trash the rest one at a time. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
But damn it, i'm going to do it without being a jerk to the person behind the keyboard of anyone else. It's much more fun that way! |
Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
100
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Posted - 2014.06.24 21:42:00 -
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While I am not quite clear on what's happened recently, I did make a request to view this and will offer some type of opinion at a later time. More likely won't until I see what the problem is.
I do know however that two communities in Eve are coming together for a purpose to address what ever the concern is.
Thanks. |
Spectral Tiger
12
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Posted - 2014.06.24 22:30:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Oh look, this thread again. Yes everyone on the internet, and especially in a video game, should be nice to their fellow human beings and show a basic level of courtesy to all. But while we're on the subject of common courtesy, would it be possible to refrain from the blatant attention seeking threads we've been seeing in GD each day, every day? That too is common courtesy.If you have a problem with a particular individual or group in this community, take the proper course of action and file a ticket with CCL/GMs/ISD/whatever. There's no need for a new thread documenting internet malcontent #74563241 every. single. day.
The title is clear, you didn't need to read this thread.
I don't actually see it solving many of the issues, but it is a step in the right direction.
Although time will tell as always. |
Adrie Atticus
the shadow plague The Bastion
125
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Posted - 2014.06.24 22:51:00 -
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Someone said something to another person and roleplayers are all hot and bothered over it to a point where they need to spam GD again? |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
540
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Posted - 2014.06.24 23:26:00 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote:While I am not quite clear on what's happened recently, I did make a request to view this and will offer some type of opinion at a later time. More likely won't until I see what the problem is.
I do know however that two communities in Eve are coming together for a purpose to address what ever the concern is.
Thanks.
You have a full copy of everything.
And you are right - this is all about two communities in EVE coming together with a very specific purpose - to try to make the game more fun and get more people having fun by getting rid of the toxic crap that stands in the way. The potential for amazing emergent game play is .... just amazing, and we want to make it happen.
Just think about it - the list of miners that have been ganked in the name of the New Order and would love nothing more then to damage us is pretty amazing huge - it's like a unlimited group. Then add us - a group of players who get a huge kick out of using every single game mechanic in the best possible way for the end goal of just exploding everything in high-sec....
The whole "New Order" vs. "Anti-Ganking" community - we could make high-sec systems into areas that are like null-sec 10% TiDI explosion filled insanity! And the simple gesture of shunning people who really take their internet spaceships so srs that they start to cross the line and end up acting like Fallen SEAL - man, people like that are just in the way of this.
It's time for MOAR pew pew and explosions and we need MOAR people on both sides of the battle, and really - who wants to be part of a community that keeps quite when people totally cross every single line of good taste simply to try to annoy their enemy?
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