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Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.26 10:55:00 -
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So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
24
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Posted - 2014.06.26 13:16:00 -
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Recent sighting!
Seriously, though, what timeframe are you talking about. There were plenty around at the weekend so do you just mean the last 3 days have been quiet? If so, that's a pretty small sample size to draw any conclusions from ...
Edit - Just to add, I'm not sure why waffles would be too significant as there is only one Cal alliance who they might impact significantly. |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
35
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:00:00 -
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I'm just chalking this up to global warming. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:40:00 -
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SmokinJs Arthie wrote:I'm just chalking this up to global warming.
Would you like to know more?
http://www.squid-world.com/squids-and-global-warming/
Quote: Squids' bodies are able to process food easier when the water is warmer. As a result the squid will grow to be larger than otherwise. This is going to be significant in their ability to survive overall out there against predators. The smaller a squid is the more likely it will be consumed. This can lead to more squid due to them becoming mature and having offspring before they become food for something else.
Be afraid! |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
36
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:16:00 -
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Quote: Others though believe that squid populations will continue to increase due to climate change. They also worry though that there will be too many of them to be able to survive on the amount of food that is readily available for them. This can lead to large numbers of them dying off due to starvation. It can also reduce the value of the genetic pool because those that do survive many not get adequate nutrition.
Sounds about right. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
764
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:32:00 -
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Wikipedia wrote:deep water squid have the greatest known pen1s length relative to body size of all mobile animals Good for you!
But there's no mention of balls... |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.26 17:36:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups 1. They are in perpetual Tier 1 right now, and even their home systems are getting hit by plexers. So, they are balling up a bit. 2. Plexes are harder. Their guys are probably turning more to missions to make their isk instead of being available for fights in plexes. 3. In our area Sniggwaffe has returned and put a big damper on Squid activity in Kinnaka. Many squids seem to pile up in Kehjari instead, or go to high sec. 4. The inability to adequately contest Enaluri last weekend (it was a "marginal draw", started at 10%, ended a bit below 10% contested level) has probably lead to a bit of "I'm going to go do something more interesting than beat my head against the wall" thinking. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:05:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:[quote=Yun Kuai] 4. The inability to adequately contest Enaluri last weekend (it was a "marginal draw", started at 10%, ended a bit below 10% contested level) has probably lead to a bit of "I'm going to go do something more interesting than beat my head against the wall" thinking.
Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri. We were there on a training weekend and only needed to keep the contested level high enough to keep you interested. ThatGÇÖs not to say we wouldnGÇÖt have liked to take the system but maximally efficient plexing took a firm back seat to a) rotating FCs in for some experience and doctrine dissemination (10 or more guys from four alliances had a go at leading the fleet over the weekend), b) testing new doctrines, and c) practicing doctrines, which we would often stay in when the plex-efficient thing to do would be to reship.
If anyone came away with a feeling that they were ramming their head into a brick wall after a weekend during which we managed to not only field decent cruiser fleets as a militia for the first time in recent memory but also support them with proper logistics and beat you guys with them more often than not, during which we destroyed 50% more in the value of your ships than were destroyed on our side, and during which we made great strides in many other areas, such as supply, cooperation and coordination, all while deliberately hitting one of the hardest targets on the map, then, well, they really werenGÇÖt paying attention.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:13:00 -
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Looked pretty fail from my POV. Maybe you guys did better at other times.
Glad you got your doctrines straightened out. |
flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2279
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Posted - 2014.06.26 20:17:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote: 3. In our area Sniggwaffe has returned and put a big damper on Squid activity in Kinnaka. Many squids seem to pile up in Kehjari instead, or go to high sec.
From my POV this isn't the case.I roam in that pocket a lot the last weeks. The active squids here is mostly from the Dei-telum alliance wich if i spotted right seem to have their base in hykanima , so it would make sense they are active in this pocket.I don't see the other big caldari alliances present here much if at all.
Though i agree that kinakka , wich had a lot of squid activity , has now fallen back to whipped cream waffles and maple sirup with allmost no squids to be spotted there.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.26 21:41:00 -
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flakeys wrote: From my POV this isn't the case.I roam in that pocket a lot the last weeks. The active squids here is mostly from the Dei-telum alliance wich if i spotted right seem to have their base in hykanima , ....
Yeah looked at the kb and it's mostly Dei-telum in Kehjari. Templis must have moved to Icho or to the "East" since a smaller portion of their kills are in our area and more of them seem to be over there.
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Cromwell Savage
quantum cats syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
185
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Posted - 2014.06.27 00:34:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote: 1. They are in perpetual Tier 1 right now, and even their home systems are getting hit by plexers. So, they are balling up a bit.
Yep...even more reason to keep taking systems....
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Why I stay in FW with this toon I don't know... |
Theroine
Justified Chaos
90
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Posted - 2014.06.27 00:57:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri.
Yeah, I didn't receive that memo, could you put me on the mailing list for future correspondence. Cheers!
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Dread Operative
Snuff Box
325
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Posted - 2014.06.27 01:40:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:So the squids starting appearing all over the war zone and we're finally getting numbers, and I say very lightly, some confidence to fight. Waffles comes back and after one to two days all the squids are gone like leaves scattered in the wind. The biologist are saying this is a sever epidemic that could have left the squids once again in the endangered species list.
All jokes aside, what happened to all the squid entities. You guys were finally getting together, making friends, and starting to actually support one another. Now, I'm lucky to find a solid number of you guys out and about...WTB pew pew that isn't just pirate groups
The squids were acting as bait for RZR (with batphone) to attempt to gank some SNUFF. They went dormant after the fights didnt go the way they wanted. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2315
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Posted - 2014.06.27 01:55:00 -
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Theroine wrote:Epikurus wrote:Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri.
Yeah, I didn't receive that memo, could you put me on the mailing list for future correspondence. Cheers! I'll forward the link to you next time.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Circle-Of-Two
1223
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Posted - 2014.06.27 02:07:00 -
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I have always said that if Templis get their **** together they will be unstoppable.
And now rumor has it that Templis will have a proper Caldari doctrine with the appropriate FC soon.
If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
Docked since 2009. |
Yuri Antollare
Justified Chaos
63
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Posted - 2014.06.27 07:28:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:X Gallentius wrote:[quote=Yun Kuai] 4. The inability to adequately contest Enaluri last weekend (it was a "marginal draw", started at 10%, ended a bit below 10% contested level) has probably lead to a bit of "I'm going to go do something more interesting than beat my head against the wall" thinking. Since you have our planning documents, you know that there was never any serious intent to contest Enaluri. We were there on a training weekend and only needed to keep the contested level high enough to keep you interested. ThatGÇÖs not to say we wouldnGÇÖt have liked to take the system but maximally efficient plexing took a firm back seat to a) rotating FCs in for some experience and doctrine dissemination (10 or more guys from four alliances had a go at leading the fleet over the weekend), b) testing new doctrines, and c) practicing doctrines, which we would often stay in when the plex-efficient thing to do would be to reship. If anyone came away with a feeling that they were ramming their head into a brick wall after a weekend during which we managed to not only field decent cruiser fleets as a militia for the first time in recent memory but also support them with proper logistics and beat you guys with them more often than not, during which we destroyed 50% more in the value of your ships than were destroyed on our side, and during which we made great strides in many other areas, such as supply, cooperation and coordination, all while deliberately hitting one of the hardest targets on the map, then, well, they really werenGÇÖt paying attention.
I don't want to be too much of an ******* because I like what you're trying to do with Calmill. But a few corrections :p
You can still run into squids occasionally, but we are used to a time when places like Enaluri, Innia, OMS/Heyd, Rakapas, Eha once upon a time, were major CalMill systems. Now the great pillars of Caldari strength lay in ruin, we struggle to find exactly where they all are? Not Kinakka or Innia, not in Heyd or OMS, not in Tama or Rakapas, rumors are there are some squirreled away in the Kurala constellation, but people arent sure exactly where. Conversely Galmills influence extends across entire regions of the map, with multiple home systems that have stood for literally years.
WRT to Enaluri, and taking nothing away from those that live there, it is the newest home system of the Gallente. In terms of where supporting corps/allainces are and logistics, it would be closer to the easiest target to strike than the hardest. That would be on a good day, the day the Enaluri thing began however we had just wrapped up in Heyd, further stressing the logistics. Also the incredibly low contested rate throughout put a serious dampener on any militia wide assistance.
From the fights I saw, things were pretty rough on the squids. I saw their Kestrel fleets die to our AF fleets, and our Kestrel fleets kill their AF fleets. For large periods of time Miras group were sitting in a large/medium baiting for RZR (I'm not sure how this fits with 'testing' system push doctrines.) In fact I'm not sure I witnessed any gallente fleets lose a fight, I did see a couple of derps from T3s trying to be funny, but we wouldn't be throwing those into the isk analysis would we? Seeing as this was about testing doctrines :p
Again though I'm not on 24 hours a day so not saying we didnt lose some fights, just it wasn't my take away impression.
Also, you brought up the AU tz issue in the document, but it never brought up the proposed answer, please, I'm curious :) |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
290
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Posted - 2014.06.27 08:08:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
We eagerly await that day. Until then, we'll pay our dues at the school of hard knocks, picking fights with the local neutral crews. Should be interesting to see what happens when the pendulum starts to swing again. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 09:39:00 -
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Yuri Antollare wrote:
WRT to Enaluri, and taking nothing away from those that live there, it is the newest home system of the Gallente. In terms of where supporting corps/allainces are and logistics, it would be closer to the easiest target to strike than the hardest.
Perhaps the easiest of the hardest targets (i.e. Gallente home systems) but certainly not amongst the easiest targets on the map.
Quote: From the fights I saw, things were pretty rough on the squids. I saw their Kestrel fleets die to our AF fleets, and our Kestrel fleets kill their AF fleets. ... In fact I'm not sure I witnessed any gallente fleets lose a fight, I did see a couple of derps from T3s trying to be funny, but we wouldn't be throwing those into the isk analysis would we? Seeing as this was about testing doctrines :p
I guess I'm mainly thinking of fights like these:
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6033140&e=20&t=qaubuvb
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6032310&e=20&t=aquuvvb
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6032265&e=15&t=afqqvvb
(edit: the forums are mangling these addresses by inserting amp;amp; into them three times for some reason - you'll need to manually delete that addition to get the BR)
I also wouldn't discount all the T3 losses. In a battle where you bring a T2/T3 cruiser fleet plus battleships and faction battleships against a T1 cruiser fleet and lose a T3 in the pitched engagement, that's just a straightforward loss.
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45339&b=6033124&e=20&t=brufavr
I'll give you the Zealot as a derp though - he warped into our fleet completely unsupported and didn't stand a chance. The Loki, not so much. The second Loki, I can't remember but that one may well have done something stupid.
On the Kessies vs AFs, we were happy trading a handful of kestrels for each of your assault frigates, so don't have too much of a problem with that phase of the fight as our numbers were a bit low. Not so happy about the battles where we lost assault frigates to your kestrels. One related thing that came out of the weekend was how much we need to work on our skirmishing. You guys are able to do great work slowing us down when you are outnumbered and that is something we really need to emulate (and which connects to the AU tz stuff below). Item 77b on the 'to do' list.
Quote: For large periods of time Miras group were sitting in a large/medium baiting for RZR (I'm not sure how this fits with 'testing' system push doctrines.)
The fact that you interpreted this in this way is interesting. We were actually sitting in the larges and mediums looking for more practice with the cruiser doctrine. I'm not sure why you thought we were baiting at this point but it does explain why you didn't come and play during this period. Obviously, baiting in plexes would have been entirely counter-productive to our aims for the weekend.
Quote: Also, you brought up the AU tz issue in the document, but it never brought up the proposed answer, please, I'm curious :)
It's a very tricky one as it's not something that is easy to correct for n terms of doctrine or strategy, since itGÇÖs really a manpower issue which is almost impossible to exert direct control over. We had some success holding back the attrition of system control through most of the first AU tz by using a hero-FC who was willing to go without sleep and managed to keep the loss to a manageable level. However, it was bought home to us just how important AU is when, after he stood down, we lost something like 4% in just the hour after downtime. Long and the short is, itGÇÖs a work in progress but some militia-wide work on skirmishing will go a long way. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
357
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:22:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:I have always said that if Templis get their **** together they will be unstoppable.
And now rumor has it that Templis will have a proper Caldari doctrine with the appropriate FC soon.
If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
Nah they just copied our doctrines GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
946
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:31:00 -
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Yuri Antollare wrote: Again though I'm not on 24 hours a day so not saying we didnt lose some fights, just it wasn't my take away impression.
Also, you brought up the AU tz issue in the document, but it never brought up the proposed answer, please, I'm curious :)
In truth we did struggle to effectively and efficiently engage squid crapacal fleet. Mainly due to no one being asked to supply a specific solution. Thankfully CQB found a moa osprey solution they had somehow lost down the back of their corp hangers sofa.
Uninterestingly, as the bulk of our US guys logged off squids would only get stronger. We really had no option but to disengage in the early AU tz. Well, i did have 2 venture alts completing plexes in enaluri that night from under the nose of a 50 man caldari BS/Bc fleet who seemed more interested in bashing structures to line up another slaughter of RZR.
Speaking of RZR, can someone explain to me how, when we dropped a rev in pyne the other day to blap a squid chimmy. When RZR got there with 25 ishtards and 2 broadswords, did they not infinipoint the rev instead of pulling range? Our kitchen sink wasnt exactly going to hold up lol. RZR has to be the worst entity operating in black rise currently.
Veskrashen wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:If he can organize their derpy masses and stop them fail fitting - you frogs might have a fight on your hands.
We eagerly await that day. Until then, we'll pay our dues at the school of hard knocks, picking fights with the local neutral crews. Should be interesting to see what happens when the pendulum starts to swing again.
The pendulum was removed last patch. |
Silverbackyererse
Nasranite Watch
66
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:32:00 -
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For the AU TZ issue...........
You just gotta place a six pack of stubbies at the warp-in of each and every plex that spawns post DT.
Don't cheap out and use VB though. That just attracts the Minmatar catalyst alts like flies around ****.
Chuck a couple of F(r)eddo's into the mix with some quality grog and b4 you know it you're a few % to the good.
Too easy!
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Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 10:57:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Epikurus wrote: The fact that you interpreted this in this way is interesting. We were actually sitting in the larges and mediums looking for more practice with the cruiser doctrine. I'm not sure why you thought we were baiting at this point but it does explain why you didn't come and play during this period. Obviously, baiting in plexes would have been entirely counter-productive to our aims for the weekend.
Well, the fact that RZR was sat on the aki gate in icho for about an hour and later on the ena gate in aki for a short while while you guys ran only larges would somewhat contradict your impression of the situation.
Not everything RZR does is connected to CalMil. They have minds (of sorts) of their own and their gate camps were a surprise to us when we ran through them to reship. I suspect that they were just attracted to the area by the fights, as Waffles had been the night before. In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
946
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:04:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Epikurus wrote: The fact that you interpreted this in this way is interesting. We were actually sitting in the larges and mediums looking for more practice with the cruiser doctrine. I'm not sure why you thought we were baiting at this point but it does explain why you didn't come and play during this period. Obviously, baiting in plexes would have been entirely counter-productive to our aims for the weekend.
Well, the fact that RZR was sat on the aki gate in icho for about an hour and later on the ena gate in aki for a short while while you guys ran only larges would somewhat contradict your impression of the situation. Not everything RZR does is connected to CalMil. They have minds (of sorts) of their own and their gate camps were a surprise to us when we ran through them to reship. I suspect that they were just attracted to the area by the fights, as Waffles had been the night before. In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing.
Im not sayng you are lying. Im just saying you are a bit ignorant. If you think you called them or not, it still prevented a fight in the larges since they are blue to you, had eyes in system and direction from mira (god help them). |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
357
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:06:00 -
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Epikurus wrote: In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing.
jup cos cynos can be lit for rzr in plexes.... you claim there not with you guys but seem to be in the area erry time u guys grow a set of balls and field nething bigger than a cruiser.... coincidence im sure GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:18:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Epikurus wrote: In any case, you don't bait by having the response force sitting out in the open in plain sight for an hour - there are Titans for that sort of thing. jup cos cynos can be lit for rzr in plexes.... you claim there not with you guys but seem to be in the area erry time u guys grow a set of balls and field nething bigger than a cruiser.... coincidence im sure
It doesn't really matter where the cyno is lit, does it? There is no need to light a cyno in a plex to make bridging in a response force a far more effective way to gank than having them sit in plain sight for an hour.
Also - your writing ... it burns
Crosi Wesdo wrote: If you think you called them or not, it still prevented a fight in the larges since they are blue to you, had eyes in system and direction from mira (god help them).
Possible, I guess, but rather unfortunate if so. I would hope Mira wouldn't do something like that behind everyone else's back.
Quote: Im not saying you are lying. Im just saying you are a bit ignorant.
Poetry |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
357
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:59:00 -
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I see you didnt get my point it didnt matter whether or not they were titan humping or sat on that gate we knew they were coming due to the fact of spys / and you guys bringing out bigger toys (which was a clear indication) GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
26
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:11:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:I see you didnt get my point it didnt matter whether or not they were titan humping or sat on that gate we knew they were coming due to the fact of spys / and you guys bringing out bigger toys (which was a clear indication)
Both you and your spies seem to have got your intel confused. The bigger toys and support came out later for the POCO bashes. Both were discussed while we were sitting in the plexes but neither were for the plexes. I can understand why you might have misconnected the dots but at the time the RZR fleet was gate camping we had nothing bigger than cruisers on field and nothing larger came out at any point other than during the short bash fleet. |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
27
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:30:00 -
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So when will Conoco. and Drenai Warriors rejoin CalMil again? :D Just Add Water |
Andre Vauban
quantum cats syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
298
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:53:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:ALUCARD 1208 wrote:I see you didnt get my point it didnt matter whether or not they were titan humping or sat on that gate we knew they were coming due to the fact of spys / and you guys bringing out bigger toys (which was a clear indication) Both you and your spies seem to have got your intel confused. The bigger toys and support came out later for the POCO bashes. Both were discussed while we were sitting in the plexes but neither were for the plexes. I can understand why you might have misconnected the dots but at the time the RZR fleet was gate camping we had nothing bigger than cruisers on field and nothing larger came out at any point other than during the short bash fleet.
I would much rather return to old times to where Gallente and Caldari would blue up to kill "outsiders" that interfere with our ability to bash each other over the head. It is much more fun. QCATS is recruiting:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299 |
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