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Dally Lama
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:45:00 -
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Decided to look up urbandictionary.com definition for "carebear" after reading a small argument about it on here. There's a few posts that stood out that I wanted to share.
The first being a definition I thought was rather accurate
Quote:1. Lightly derogatory term for an MMO player who avoids PVP combat, heavily preferring cooperative or solo PVE combat, chatting, or developing tradeskills/running quests. Depending on the game and the individual, this PVP avoidance can show up in several ways: by playing on strict non-PVP servers; by avoiding PVP areas or declining duels; or, by avoiding or condemning PVP players. Philosophically, they often cite unbalanced combat systems, overpowered guilds, ebayed characters, and ganking as reasons to prefer less aggressive play. The mindset can be self-sustaining in several ways: high-level "care bears" may have avatars that are tailored for PVE, not PVP; they may not network with skilled PVP players; or, they may morally refuse to learn aggressive PVP tactics. As an insult, the term applies less to players who merely prefer PVE to PVP and more to individuals who question the basic legitimacy of PVP or who greatly overreact to their avatars' deaths. Bear in mind that it is strictly incorrect to refer to the victims of heavy exploiters as Care Bears. Abbreviated CB. Compare with RPK, Player Killing/PK, PVP. 2. Adjective describing a strictly PVE server or game.
Another that offers a bit of perspective
Quote:In the MMORPG Eve-Online (www.eve-online.com) a Carebear is a character who stays in Concord (police) controlled space and never ventures into unsecured "0.0" space.
Unlike previous MMORPG related definitions, an Eve carebear doesn't necessarily eschew Player-vs-Player activity - a carebear may actually be a pirate or griefer who specifically stays in Concord controlled space to prey on new players (noobs).
Carebear pirates are commonly considered a cowardly form of pirate. My character is in a carebear corporation; I never leave high security space.
He's a carebear pirate because he hangs out on the border of high-security space to gank noobs.
And lastly, a rather amusing one
Quote:A derogatory label and self assurance, used by little boys, whose only baddassery, comes from making their cartoon characters jump around and hit other players real good. Their fragile egos exist only in the form of number of PVP kills earned in a video game and are thus, sadder than you. Used as a form of counter whining, and childish ad homonym to express frustration at the fact that other players may not enjoy having a 14 year old with self esteem issues and an internet based upbringing, or some 40 year old virgin who dry humps his keyboard for 22 hours a day- killing them while they're trying to play a game.
Those who use this phrase are usually used to chat speak and are generally unable to form complete sentences and original thoughts due to the brain filled with hopes of honor points and other such virtual pride.
Talk about how much a ***** people who aren't into PVP are but offline are the biggest chickenshits around. They honestly think anyone with pubic hair actually considers them to be intimidating.
Used by people who have no life outside a video game. You may call me a carebear because I'm "afraid of PVP" but if I unhinged your Dorito specked claws from the keyboard and put a woman in front you...well, you'd probably wet yourself.
Add your own if you please, there's a bunch of interesting and/or amusing definitions on there. New Fitting Window | Distances above 10km | Maximums for buy orders |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3983
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:48:00 -
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Carebears are an essential part of the EVE ecology for reseeding Ice Belts. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Valkin Mordirc
Abysmal Gentlemen
30
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:56:00 -
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Without the carebears how can buy all my ship in which to blow them up with? D= Really it's a horrible cycle, but it's a cycle that...works...
Hold on, I'mma go write a letter to the president on how to fix the economy. *scampers off* Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
Aiyshimin
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
39
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:59:00 -
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"Carebear" is not a virtual personality type or chosen play style, it's a medical term describing the condition resulting from terminal testosterone deficit. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
596
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:02:00 -
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Most players I know use the same definition - and is has nothing to do what region of space they operate in :) There are carebears in high, null, low, wormhole space - they are everywhere! :-)
A carebear is a player who seeks to avoid any type of interaction with other players that does not result in him making ISK. They are generally unwilling to learn any game mechanics that are not directly involved with making ISK, and when players with differing play styles present challenges that stand in the way of making ISK - the reaction is one of personal insults, forum posts, anger - generally any reaction that does not involve learning about game mechanics that they don't personally enjoy using.
Add to that a sense of self-entitlement and a victim mentality - many carebears feel that they should have the right to load up eve, undock in a valuable ship and float AFK for hours without anyone being able to bother them. When someone dares shatter this illusion - they were simply "defenseless", "helpless", "innocent", and "unarmed" and anyone that dared to fire on them was some type of internet spaceship bully or probably a bad person RL.
There's my two cents. For the TL;DR version:
"Carebears are players who seek nothing but ISK and have little to no desire to engage in any part of the game that does not further that specific goal. The carebear tends to suffer from a sense of self-entitlement and victim mentality, and is usually unwilling to embrace play styles that he or she does approve of." |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2590
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:07:00 -
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Industry people are not carebears. People who can't be bothered to take action to protect their assets or who want game mechanics changed so they can be free from non-consensual game play are carebears. "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
596
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:08:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Industry people are not carebears. People who can't be bothered to take action to protect their assets or who want game mechanics changed so they can be free from non-consensual game play are carebears.
Yup.
I know plenty of players who have never fired a single shot at another player and who only seek ISK who are totally not carebears :) |
Darth Terona
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
4
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:23:00 -
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CB's are a very important part of eve online
As far as I can tell, every single isk in the game was awarded to some cb at some point for bounties and mission rewards
Without the cb, eve's money sinks would dry up the economy |
Darth Terona
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
4
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:24:00 -
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Arr |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
596
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:28:00 -
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Darth Terona wrote:CB's are a very important part of eve online
As far as I can tell, every single isk in the game was awarded to some cb at some point for bounties and mission rewards
Without the cb, eve's money sinks would dry up the economy
Look a little harder and you will find that to not be the case in any way. |
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
794
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:29:00 -
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Carebears are players unwilling to take any risks. The worst ones would actually want all risk removed from the game.
For example, I wouldn't consider full-blown carebears:
. traders . industrial players seeding lowsec/nullsec markets . wormhole PVEers . lowsec/nullsec explorers
On the other hand, I would consider PVPers that only engage with overwhelming odds to be borderline carebear. Though in PVP there's always something that can go wrong and I appreciate the fact that they're minimizing the risk by planning/intel effort (instead of whining). |
Felicity Project
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:30:00 -
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We need to get rid of this infection once and for all ... |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
795
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:35:00 -
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Felicity Project wrote:We need to get rid of this infection once and for all ... Hey Sol, seems like you really got that gigantic boobs effect fully mastered.
Must be the biggest-looking boobs I've ever seen in an EVE avatar portrait. |
Darth Terona
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
4
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:36:00 -
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How else is isk generated in eve if not missions and bounties?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5041
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:39:00 -
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The term has been around for a long time.
Back in the days of the Atari 2600, cartridges (ha! Cartridges!) were sold with symbols on the packaging. If the game was easy mode, or had an easy mode, meaning younger kids could play it, the box has a symbol of a teddy bear head.
The actual "Care Bear" toy didn't come out until later, sometime in the mid 1980s (I think).
Yeah I'm old.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Marsha Mallow
1165
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:46:00 -
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Dally Lama wrote:a 14 year old with self esteem issues and an internet based upbringing, or some 40 year old virgin who dry humps his keyboard for 22 hours a day Still though, there are a few of these about, and their screeching is at least as bad as the carebears. We need a derogatory term for them other than l33t pvper, or basement dwelling neckbeard virgin. Pew-tard? Turbo-nerd? TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Kristalll
Rolled Out
306
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:54:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Carebears are players unwilling to take any risks. The worst ones would actually want all risk removed from the game.
For example, I wouldn't consider full-blown carebears:
. traders . industrial players seeding lowsec/nullsec markets . wormhole PVEers . lowsec/nullsec explorers
On the other hand, I would consider PVPers that only engage with overwhelming odds to be borderline carebear. Though in PVP there's always something that can go wrong and I appreciate the fact that they're minimizing the risk by planning/intel effort (instead of whining).
my two man wardec corp has been called cowards even though we have hundreds of war targets at a single time. Just because we play in a way that maximizes our success, they think we're cowards while they only voluntarily engage us with 8+ guys. GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |
Kristalll
Rolled Out
306
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:56:00 -
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Darth Terona wrote:How else is isk generated in eve if not missions and bounties?
Blue loot.
What you seem to have missed though is the idea that mission runnera are not de facto, carebears. Carebears are a different breed. GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |
Paranoid Loyd
749
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:14:00 -
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Darth Terona wrote:How else is isk generated in eve if not missions and bounties?
You take it from Carebears or anyone else foolish enough to not properly protect their assets. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:29:00 -
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I'm more like a "Butterfly" i attack like a "bumblebee"
'Float like a butterfly sting like a bee - his hands can't hit what his eyes can't see.' GÇò Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay)
GÇ£The bee is domesticated but not tamed.GÇ¥ GÇò William Longgood
"Just like the butterfly, I too will awaken in my own time for some pvp" GÇò Celise Katelo
"I'm happy to bumblebee about, level 4 security missions for me, explore like a butterfly land like a bee, buy/sell stuff in different stations / locations for free. Anyone decides to fire at me, or choose to ninja ship wreck me, i tend to sting back rather hard like a bee. My sting does not kill me, i'm a butterfly not a bee, i like to be free" GÇò Celise Katelo
"Carebears just wanna be free like me, in the ocean of the sea & the galaxy of Eden we shall be free, shall the stars light our paths for some pvp. In the meadow of our minds, let us conjure such devine's." GÇò Celise Katelo
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Solecist Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
2493
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:32:00 -
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Celise Katelo wrote:I'm more like a " Butterfly" i attack like a " bumblebee" 'Float like a butterfly sting like a bee - his hands can't hit what his eyes can't see.' GÇò Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay)
GÇ£The bee is domesticated but not tamed.GÇ¥ GÇò William Longgood"Just like the butterfly, I too will awaken in my own time for some pvp" GÇò Celise Katelo "I'm happy to bumblebee about, level 4 security missions for me, explore like a butterfly land like a bee, buy/sell stuff in different stations / locations for free. Anyone decides to fire at me, or choose to ninja ship wreck me, i tend to sting back rather hard like a bee. My sting does not kill me, i'm a butterfly not a bee, i like to be free" GÇò Celise Katelo "Carebears just wanna be free like me, in the ocean of the sea & the galaxy of Eden we shall be free, shall the stars light our paths for some pvp. In the meadow of our minds, let us conjure such devine's." GÇò Celise Katelo I find it rather telling that you put your own quotes into a line with a quote from Cassius Clay ...
... and they aren't even any good. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12153
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:34:00 -
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Darth Terona wrote:How else is isk generated in eve if not missions and bounties?
Those things do not make you a carebear.
Carebears are people who hate any kind of setback or challenge and will refuse to do anything for themselves and demand the removal of anything that will negatively impact them. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
795
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:35:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:my two man wardec corp has been called cowards even though we have hundreds of war targets at a single time. Just because we play in a way that maximizes our success, they think we're cowards while they only voluntarily engage us with 8+ guys. I'd say it depends on your wardec corp's ISK efficiency. If it was over 90-95%, you were either very lucky, very awesome at PVP, or you weren't taking risks.
In that case I wouldn't call you cowards, but careful planners. Slightly carebear. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
602
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:40:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote: Still though, there are a few of these about, and their screeching is at least as bad as the carebears. We need a derogatory term for them other than l33t pvper, or basement dwelling neckbeard virgin. Pew-tard? Turbo-nerd?
I like pew-tard, but it's a lil derogatory. Turbo-nerd is pretty decent :P |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
763
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:45:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote: Still though, there are a few of these about, and their screeching is at least as bad as the carebears. We need a derogatory term for them other than l33t pvper, or basement dwelling neckbeard virgin. Pew-tard? Turbo-nerd?
I like pew-tard, but it's a lil derogatory. Turbo-nerd is pretty decent :P THIS JUST IN! Nerd isn't derogatory anymore!
New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1129
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:50:00 -
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Here's a riddle, does pedobear 'care'?
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Would you like to know more? |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
166
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Posted - 2014.06.27 17:08:00 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:"Carebear" is not a virtual personality type or chosen play style, it's a medical term describing the condition resulting from terminal testosterone deficit.
Yes quite sad. Worse though is an affliction known as "nullbear syndrome" in which the afflicted produce so little testosterone that they can only 'pvp' against ships with weak defenses and a complete inability to return fire. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
764
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Posted - 2014.06.27 17:42:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Aiyshimin wrote:"Carebear" is not a virtual personality type or chosen play style, it's a medical term describing the condition resulting from terminal testosterone deficit. Yes quite sad. Worse though is an affliction known as "nullbear syndrome" in which the afflicted produce so little testosterone that they can only 'pvp' against ships with weak defenses and a complete inability to return fire. I thought nullbear syndrome prevented them from hitting any buttons except ctrl, f1 and left mouse? New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Marsha Mallow
1170
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Posted - 2014.06.27 17:51:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:I like pew-tard, but it's a lil derogatory. Turbo-nerd is pretty decent :P Pew-Tard shamelessly stolen from the Dust forums just after fanfest. Inbetween beating the crap out of LogiBro they were ranting about the PC-Tards over here who were laughing at them.
Turbo-nerd is pretty much all Eve players tho. Might be a compliment to some. Eve Nerds = better than other nerds.
Remember I'm not talking about PVPers generally. Just those, you know the ones, everywhere has at least one. They play for 20 hours a day, probably don't wash and are usually in the top 100 on some kb. And have really annoying voices and sound about 12 (despite probably being older). All I can think of for these are ~~~~Lord. Battle-Muppets? Emo-monkeys? TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
166
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Posted - 2014.06.27 17:52:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Darth Terona wrote:How else is isk generated in eve if not missions and bounties?
Those things do not make you a carebear. Carebears are people who hate any kind of setback or challenge and will refuse to do anything for themselves and demand the removal of anything that will negatively impact them.
Like the 'challenge' presented by pitting you and 10 of your buddies against some lone miner or the constant whiny buzz of 'nerf highsec' that bellows constantly from the blue doughnut because it negatively affects the blue doughnuts desire to blast defenseless ships in highsec.
I hear ya brother those people are such weak sauce players they definitely dont represent what EVE tough is all about! Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really. |
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