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Grunnax Aurelius
Lai Dai Shadows Negative Waves
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Posted - 2014.06.29 08:49:00 -
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Black Ops are pretty good as they are, but they could use a few Hot Fixes
Black Ops are pretty much used as Bridge only at the moment. One of the main reasons they are not used in combat is because of there small tank of between 60K - 80K EHP and only about 1K - 1.1K DPS to go with it while also having a huge price tag.
Here is what I propose:
Widow make its base sig to 375m Caldari bonuses 5% RoF Cruise / Torps 10% Max Missile Velocity Black Ops 15% Damage Crusie / Torps 125% Cloaked Velocity
Sin make base sig to 350m, give 1 extra turret hardpoint, drone made to 75mbit/125m3 Gallente bonuses 5% Damage Hybrid 10% Falloff Hybrid Black Ops 15% Damage Hybrid 125% Cloaked Velocity
Redeemer make base sig 325m 5% RoF Energy 7.5% Tracking Energy Black Ops 15% Damage Energy 125% Cloaked Velocity
Panther make base sig 300m, give 1 extra turret Minmatar 5% RoF Projectile 5% Damage Projectile Black Ops 15% Damage Projectile 125% Cloaked Velocity
Each will still have around 65K - 85K EHP tank, but will have around 1.7K - 1.9K DPS.
SO they can either be used two ways 1 Keep being used as bridges or 2 Hot Dropping Glass Cannon https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=342042&find=unread |
HiddenPorpoise
Under Dark Sins of our Fathers
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Posted - 2014.06.29 14:01:00 -
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I like this less then what we have. |
elitatwo
Congregatio
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Posted - 2014.06.29 14:19:00 -
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Let's not make suggestion on ships that are about to get a 'balance pass' anyway.. signature |
Ellendras Silver
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
143
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Posted - 2014.06.29 15:22:00 -
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you make it sound as if 1100 DPS is not enough!? can you give me 1 good reason for this, or is it like oehhh i want too fly ship X plz give it more tank and DPS they have less tank that is correct and it has good reasons for that as they can be bridged trough an covert cyno, that is a great feature and comes at the cost of less tank.
it would be nice if you gave some reasons as why you want it changed. Carpe noctem |
Dark Priest Shaft
A Miserable Little Pile Of Secrets
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Posted - 2014.06.29 16:11:00 -
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Just force bridging ships to audo jump when the bridge ends. End of bridge only ships, end of risk free hot drop because you bait out that hot drop and have a fleet ready to pounce you can countergank those looking for an easy gank. Sure there are ways around by bridging into a neighboring system but its far better in gameplay terms than current.
Are there any real balance reasons that shouldnt happen? I cant think of any. |
Tarsas Phage
Freight Club
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:53:00 -
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Dark Priest Shaft wrote:Just force bridging ships to audo jump when the bridge ends. End of bridge only ships, end of risk free hot drop because you bait out that hot drop and have a fleet ready to pounce you can countergank those looking for an easy gank. Sure there are ways around by bridging into a neighboring system but its far better in gameplay terms than current.
Are there any real balance reasons that shouldnt happen? I cant think of any.
I could troll people pretty hard with this.
Get a bunch of covert T3s and recons on a neutral bridging alt (commonplace - who is going to put a in-corp combat char in a pig Redeemer and lose the DPS that char could otherwise be providing) and put a cyno up on a POS that's friendly to the people using the bridge, but not to the neutral bridger. Step 3: harvest the lulz, cuz the bridger will see what system he is opening the bridge to, but not where it is in system of course. He'll get pulled through the cyno as well and :well:
To the OP's point - I'd say that Blops BSes are actually pretty damed popular right now. 1k DPS is nothing to sneeze at, which rivals even faction T1 BS DPS, and by and large the hulls just require expensive bling for fitting purposes. The range is quite sufficient - sufficient enough that if you don't look at the map for blobs within 8ly and you're in an area of known blops activity, then you're doing it wrong in the first place. I'd also say that the bridging ship almost always follows the fleet anyways - because that's usually the fleet's ride back home. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.29 20:47:00 -
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Not even the only one on this page, tutut. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.06.30 12:40:00 -
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Grunnax Aurelius wrote:
Each will still have around 65K - 85K EHP tank, but will have around 1.7K - 1.9K DPS.
SO they can either be used two ways 1 Keep being used as bridges or 2 Hot Dropping Glass Cannon
I would use such platform for grinding L4 empire missions. I mean who needs Golem if you would be able to get twice the damage from Widow? Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
Dring Dingle
Polaris Rising The Bastion
143
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:05:00 -
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Why screw with existing blops's....
We need 4 more!!! So 3 ewar ones for the other races.. (Widow is the only one atm) * abaddon blops with nice nuets.... Droooooolll* Galante would be... The Hyperion hul. And epic scram range And minimatar, the maelstrom hul with webs.
And then dps for caldari. A rhok. * drool even more*
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sue khaz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:39:00 -
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it's been hinted there will be two per race , don't settle for less .
one logi / support oriented , perhaps longer legs or larger fuel bay etc.
one attack oriented , intended to jump thru into combat .
both getting t2 resist profile , more hp , and i'm betting one gets the covops cloak .
so if you post ideas for blops , kindly specify , to remind ccp we were kinda promised two each race . |
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1592
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Posted - 2014.06.30 15:59:00 -
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For a quick buff i would balance all black ops around a 600% cloaked velocity role bonus. Then i would increase the dps or damage projection slightly.
And/or something a little more radical...
Allow blackops ships to jump to a system without the need for a cyno. They would be able to jump to the sun of any system in range. +1 |
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