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Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:11:00 -
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Ok, here is the deal. I have been scanning all day, and doing some ninja salvaging, and having a Basilisk parked nearby and watching at least three pilots struggling on their L4s (including what appeared to be a very underskilled Drake) I decided to fit a probe launcher to the Basilisk, and ninja rep some people, just to burn some time and change the pace.
In total I scanned down and went to three different pilots. After coming out of warp, and targeting them, they were out of there within 10-15 seconds, even though I was clearly a Logi, and had remote shields and remote caps on them for at least a cycle or two.
So what gives? (and, to note, this was in High Sec) |
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:19:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:Ok, here is the deal. I have been scanning all day, and doing some ninja salvaging, and having a Basilisk parked nearby and watching at least three pilots struggling on their L4s (including what appeared to be a very underskilled Drake) I decided to fit a probe launcher to the Basilisk, and ninja rep some people, just to burn some time and change the pace.
In total I scanned down and went to three different pilots. After coming out of warp, and targeting them, they were out of there within 10-15 seconds, even though I was clearly a Logi, and had remote shields and remote caps on them for at least a cycle or two.
So what gives? (and, to note, this was in High Sec) news just in: repeatedly raped womens tend to be skiddish with stranger males that ambush them in dark places. surely their fault. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
969
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:24:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:Ok, here is the deal. I have been scanning all day, and doing some ninja salvaging, and having a Basilisk parked nearby and watching at least three pilots struggling on their L4s (including what appeared to be a very underskilled Drake) I decided to fit a probe launcher to the Basilisk, and ninja rep some people, just to burn some time and change the pace.
In total I scanned down and went to three different pilots. After coming out of warp, and targeting them, they were out of there within 10-15 seconds, even though I was clearly a Logi, and had remote shields and remote caps on them for at least a cycle or two.
So what gives? (and, to note, this was in High Sec)
Too many gankers and aggro setups make mission runners very nervous. I probably would warp away so I had time to figure out what you were up to. Better warp away and be safe than die.
If you want to help mission runners join a mission running corporation.
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Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:33:00 -
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If I wanted to Logi for people I would be doing that. I just figured that I would burn some time, but it seems to be a waste, lol. Oh well, back to stealing their salvage. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:36:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:Oh well, back to stealing their salvage. I just don't understand why mission runners are so skittish |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
518
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Posted - 2014.06.29 20:25:00 -
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Hek! I don't even know all the logi ships! To me anyone warping into my mission has only one goal, ruin my day!
I mean I know logi ships exist, but I don't use one, I don't plan on using one, so I never done any reading/research about 'em. You say Basilisk. I say The Who? Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
972
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Posted - 2014.06.29 20:48:00 -
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Caleidascope wrote:Hek! I don't even know all the logi ships! To me anyone warping into my mission has only one goal, ruin my day!
I mean I know logi ships exist, but I don't use one, I don't plan on using one, so I never done any reading/research about 'em. You say Basilisk. I say The Who? Lack of knowledge can get you dead in Eve. I will agree that if someone is coming into your mission it's probably to ruin your day. |
Oxide Ammar
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Posted - 2014.06.30 05:46:00 -
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Mission runners tend to manage their cap and repairs perfectly, only low skilled runners and ppl who don't know how to fit their BS are having issues in missions, but still anyone is warping to my mission there is high chance they are looking for ruining my day. Lady Areola Fappington: -áSolo PVP isn't dead!-á You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
886
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Posted - 2014.06.30 06:17:00 -
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A ship can still fit a web and scram even if the ship bonuses are more suited to a logi. |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
137
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Posted - 2014.06.30 09:28:00 -
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I dont care who you are or what ship your flying, you warp into my mission site without talking to me first and Im gone. Anyone who doesnt copy my example deserves his loss mail. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
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Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
247
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Posted - 2014.06.30 10:46:00 -
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TBH - I would probably also just GTFO if random neutral warps into my mission and starts doing something unexpected. And then I would ship spin in a station for a little while trying to figure out how can remote repping be used to get me killed in hi sec mission deadspace.
There is always possibility there is some new defect / feautre / exploit I have missed and I'm not that keen on finding out first hand how, exactly, does it work. At least not in my mission-running pimpmobile ;) Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.30 11:12:00 -
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To each their own, I suppose. It is a shame that random kindness cant be employed, lol. |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Suddenly Frigates Reconstructed Criticism
115
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Posted - 2014.06.30 11:38:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:To each their own, I suppose. It is a shame that random kindness cant be employed, lol. there is no random kindness in eve, its even more how can i screw u than real life |
Pix Severus
Deeper Feelings Inc.
1087
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Posted - 2014.06.30 12:49:00 -
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If anything warps into my mission, even if its something ridiculous like a mining barge, I'm out of there fast.
You don't know how the ship is set up, for all you know it could be fitted to tank your damage and hold you there while the guy warps his alts to join in. My lord. |
Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:02:00 -
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I would agree with you, Pix, if it wasnt in 0.7 sec. Either I can outright gank you right there on the spot within seconds, or I wont be attacking you. No way for me to tank anything. |
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
37
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:13:00 -
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Suicide ganking is all the rage right now. You jump in to someones mission unannounced I too would warp first ask questions later. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2017
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:20:00 -
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Especially when your corp name reads "shoot ship" at the first glance :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:22:00 -
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But with such a friendly ship name "Help has arrived!", I dont see how anyone could be so suspicious! ;) |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
980
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:32:00 -
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Carniflex wrote:TBH - I would probably also just GTFO if random neutral warps into my mission and starts doing something unexpected. And then I would ship spin in a station for a little while trying to figure out how can remote repping be used to get me killed in hi sec mission deadspace.
There is always possibility there is some new defect / feautre / exploit I have missed and I'm not that keen on finding out first hand how, exactly, does it work. At least not in my mission-running pimpmobile ;)
This is a good point. You never know when someone has discovered a new feature that will allow them to engage you. Also it can do "harmless" things like ship scan and provide intel to a ganking fleet. |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:44:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:But with such a friendly ship name "Help has arrived!", I dont see how anyone could be so suspicious! ;)
Hell, if you ever meet me during the rare phases when I'm trying out a new battleship or something (one of the only cases where I go back to missions), you're free to take all the salvage. When I'm doing missions, I'm blitzing them as fast as possible and set the wrecks to blue anyway.
Visitors in my missions are only relevant to me in two cases:
1. Combat ships which could pose a threat if I'm not careful. 2. A shitload of -10 sec status people has just entered local.
In all other cases, feel free to visit me. Especially if I'm outside HighSec, where CONCORD can't protect you.
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Ginger Barbarella
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Posted - 2014.06.30 15:53:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:To each their own, I suppose. It is a shame that random kindness cant be employed, lol.
Yeah, you've stretched it out long enough. Tell everyone what your real plan and intent was. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.30 15:56:00 -
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It literally was just to help out. It was a slow system, and ninja salvaging is like watching paint dry when the people are warping out, or not killing efficiently. I have the Logi, but have no real use for it, and was just killing time anyway, so I figured that I would give it a shot. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
980
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:02:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:It literally was just to help out. It was a slow system, and ninja salvaging is like watching paint dry when the people are warping out, or not killing efficiently. I have the Logi, but have no real use for it, and was just killing time anyway, so I figured that I would give it a shot. The problem is no one can read your mind to know your intentions. How do they know it's Seth's be nice to people day?
If you want to logi try incursions. I think there's still non shiny fleets out there but it's been years since I've done them. |
Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:07:00 -
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"Oh, hey, I am going to ninja salvage you, but you are taking too long, so I got bored and decided to help you with some cap and shield."
Anyway, the point of the thread wasnt "why are they all running off?" it was more of a "people are too quick on the warp out button, and not checking to see what people are doing." It was also sort of a general commentary on the state of PvE, I suppose. |
Brutus Le'montac
section 18 trade
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:09:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:If I wanted to Logi for people I would be doing that. I just figured that I would burn some time, but it seems to be a waste, lol. Oh well, back to stealing their salvage.
maybe let them know you got no ill will? i mean, i have seen bait logi's aswell as bait mining barges XD
just drop them message or if possible in local, that you gonna rep them, because they struggle? |
Brutus Le'montac
section 18 trade
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:11:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:"Oh, hey, I am going to ninja salvage you, but you are taking too long, so I got bored and decided to help you with some cap and shield."
Anyway, the point of the thread wasnt "why are they all running off?" it was more of a "people are too quick on the warp out button, and not checking to see what people are doing." It was also sort of a general commentary on the state of PvE, I suppose.
its not only that, people hear a lot of spooky tales about agro mechanics in hisec, baiting mission runners, harvesting tears etc etc. this can ofcourse explain why they think that everyone in the mission pocket outside themselfs is out there to either kill them, or steal form them. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
980
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:11:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:"Oh, hey, I am going to ninja salvage you, but you are taking too long, so I got bored and decided to help you with some cap and shield."
Anyway, the point of the thread wasnt "why are they all running off?" it was more of a "people are too quick on the warp out button, and not checking to see what people are doing." It was also sort of a general commentary on the state of PvE, I suppose. I agree that it's interesting but I would do the same just to be careful. I know it's not the same but in nullsec I've lost an expensive BS when a blue warped on grid. My thought was he's blue so it's okay. My thoughts should have been why did he just warp to me? You start getting cautious about stuff after losing a few ships. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
980
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:29:00 -
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Brutus Le'montac wrote:they think that everyone in the mission pocket outside themselfs is out there to either kill them, or steal form them. It might not be 100% true but thinking like this in Eve will keep you alive.
I don't trust anyone in Eve unless I know where they live in RL. The possibility of extreme RL discomfort discourages any bad behavior in Eve |
Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:34:00 -
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To be fair, I was planning to "steal" from them. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
980
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:38:00 -
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Seth's Dead wrote:To be fair, I was planning to "steal" from them. Thanks for restoring my faith in Eve pilots |
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