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Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:17:00 -
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I am not sure if this has been suggested already or not....I did a forums search and found nothing.....but.....
There are 2 suggestions that I have for the current 'broken' (imo) aspect of the data/relic sites......
You created the mini-game....cool. It makes them funner. I get that. In the past, you had to rely on trained skill to be able to access the loot inside the can. This system was mundane, but it worked. It reserved the loot for people who put the time into training to reap the rewards. Now, with how the system is....any noob with a scanning frig and a data analyzer can fail on the can and pop them, along with the loot and despawn the site.
I watched a 2 week year old toon fail on 3 cans right in a row last night, before I finally got fed up, made him primary and popped his ship, and his pod.......
I don't mean to sound elitist, but comeon....I didn't spend the time to train the skills I have just to have some 2 week year old toon running around failing and despawning all the sites I have trained to have success at.
Solutions -
1) make access to the mini-game dependent on skill. If they have the proper level of skill trained, then they can have access to the mini-game. If not, no dice.....it keeps the site spawned for people who have the skill to actually have success at it.
2) make the sites much harder to scan down. This would be a secondary solution, seeing as how someone can have good scanning skills, but still lack the skills to successfully hack the site.
Let the flaming begin........ |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:23:00 -
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What is a 2 week year old toon? My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
Paranoid Loyd
755
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:23:00 -
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"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:29:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:What is a 2 week year old toon?
A "toon" is what we used to call a character back in the day. Maybe it isn't a term that is used anymore.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:31:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote: It makes them funner. Lol "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Paranoid Loyd
755
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:34:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:What is a 2 week year old toon? A "toon" is what we used to call a character back in the day. Maybe it isn't a term that is used anymore.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:36:00 -
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So you got angry someone else got to the exploration site first and you want CCP to add artificial barriers to the game that makes those sites accessible exclusively to you?
You may have popped his ship and pod but you still sound like a carebear. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
431
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:37:00 -
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the better question is, what are doing in sites that noobs can access?
go into deep null and stop complaining.
or hop into a marauder and go do wormholes. |
Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:38:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Binah 369 wrote: It makes them funner. Lol
Middle-english is quickly becoming obsolete....texting and tweeting have progressed it's demise exponentially. While I value your attempt to hold onto a dying relic of days old.....it was a poor attempt at a troll. Good day sir. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:43:00 -
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How are they broken? And yes, someone beat you to the site and you ended up with nothingGǪ so what? Be quicker next time. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
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Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:44:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:the better question is, what are doing in sites that noobs can access?
go into deep null and stop complaining.
or hop into a marauder and go do wormholes.
This was nullsec.....
*you know what they say about assuming, right?* |
Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:50:00 -
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All the people who have responded with negative comments and trolls......I will ask you one thing. What negative impact would it have on the game if CCP made this change?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2323
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:51:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Binah 369 wrote: It makes them funner. Lol Middle-english is quickly becoming obsolete....texting and tweeting have progressed it's demise exponentially. While I value your attempt to hold onto a dying relic of days old.....it was a poor attempt at a troll. Good day sir. No ,Gaelic is a dying language. o7 the one we are (well I am anyway) is doing just fine, the fact that you found a site that bypasses you frontal lobes doesn't make correct speech obsolete. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:55:00 -
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Wait, you are asking that access should be based on skill because someone without skill couldnt access it?
Or you are pissed that he despawned a site that you were using to hunt scanners on?
What are you asking for?
You will need to be clearer on that "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:56:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:All the people who have responded with negative comments and trolls......I will ask you one thing. What negative impact would it have on the game if CCP made this change? You said it yourself, limiting new players.
And for what reason? an apparent "veteran" cant seem to accept that someone else simply got somewhere before him. You seem to make this desire based on the idea that having more sp than the other guy makes you more entitled to the rewards, and you should get a VIP pass to special sites just for you.
Maybe you didn't want to sound elitist, but in reality what you are asking for only seems to fall into that category. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22677
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:56:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:All the people who have responded with negative comments and trolls......I will ask you one thing. What negative impact would it have on the game if CCP made this change? It would arbitrarily and for no good reason lock out the aforementioned two-week old alts (or, indeed, characters of any age) from running around failing and despawning them.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Paranoid Loyd
755
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:57:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:All the people who have responded with negative comments and trolls......I will ask you one thing. What negative impact would it have on the game if CCP made this change?
Why do you feel because you trained some skills they should not be able to access them? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:57:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Binah 369 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Binah 369 wrote: It makes them funner. Lol Middle-english is quickly becoming obsolete....texting and tweeting have progressed it's demise exponentially. While I value your attempt to hold onto a dying relic of days old.....it was a poor attempt at a troll. Good day sir. No ,Gaelic is a dying language. o7 the one we are (well I am anyway) is doing just fine, the fact that you found a site that bypasses you frontal lobes doesn't make correct speech obsolete.
It's (fun)ny and ironic that you are desperately trying to argue the proper usage and etiquette of a word that arouse from the underbelly of the 19th century criminal culture.....
http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2012/10/01/funner-grammar/ |
Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:02:00 -
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I will remind everyone that it USED to be based on skill. I'm just asking a revert back to that. Wow.....everyone wants something for nothing it seems. Train the skills to get the rewards. This isn't Obamacare...... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:06:00 -
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I can see what the OP is griping about but cannot justify the gripe. In my experience you can take a ship with low virus and hack bonuses and no rigging for it even to deep nullsec and if you are good at the mini game, you can still hack the cans. After a while the mini game starts to show a pattern and you go from losing half the cans to hacking all of them.
Now for the more meritocratic amongst us, this is not going to be good:
So what I found is possible is with good mini game experience you can hack in a warp/agility rigged and double-stabbed interceptor,go just about anywhere, and hack cans. While blowing through the gank pipelines (the key is not to linger because you can traverse systems faster than they can position a disco BS once the intel channels start crying).
You will find yourself saying things like "A bubble camp. How adorable".
I have done exactly this. Yes you still lose a ship eventually, like in my case, taking a chance in a ghost site (arg! Lol) but by the time your luck runs out you will have paid for the several times over. Suffice to say you don't need to be Mr Skillpoints to do this. The mini game starts to feel kind of lame once you have mastered it like we were mastering Pac Man back in the 80's.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22677
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:08:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:I will remind everyone that it USED to be based on skill. GǪand it still is. Without the skill, you get absolutely nothing. With low skills, you most likely get nothing.
Quote:Wow.....everyone wants something for nothing it seems. No, not everyone. Just you. You want the stuff without the competition. The other guy didn't get anything, remember? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:08:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:I will remind everyone that it USED to be based on skill. I'm just asking a revert back to that. Wow.....everyone wants something for nothing it seems. Train the skills to get the rewards. This isn't Obamacare......
This post doesnt even make sense.
So, instead of skill (as in experience) you think that Skills (as in XP) are a stronger indiction of ability?
Are you simple?
You think that a counter passively counting up while you do nothing is some sort of indication of worth?
And how do you find a site without scanning skills?
And how do you hack it without hacking skills?
And what does any of that have to do with exceptionally weak social healthcare reforms? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2323
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:13:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: Are you simple?
Clearly, I question the merit of engaging with this one. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:26:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Binah 369 wrote:I will remind everyone that it USED to be based on skill. I'm just asking a revert back to that. Wow.....everyone wants something for nothing it seems. Train the skills to get the rewards. This isn't Obamacare...... This post doesnt even make sense. So, instead of skill (as in experience) you think that Skills (as in XP) are a stronger indiction of ability? Are you simple? You think that a counter passively counting up while you do nothing is some sort of indication of worth? And how do you find a site without scanning skills? And how do you hack it without hacking skills? And what does any of that have to do with exceptionally weak social healthcare reforms?
If the analogy and argument is lost on you, then I probably won't be able to explain it in a manner in which you can understand.....
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2324
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:30:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote: If the analogy and argument is lost on you, then I probably won't be able to explain it in a manner in which you can understand.....
I'm inclined to agree.
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
801
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:30:00 -
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A 2007 'toon' like yourself shouldn't really be doing data/relic sites anymore.
Move on to more challenging PVE content and leave the easiest sites to the newbros. |
Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:33:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:A 2007 'toon' like yourself shouldn't really be doing data/relic sites anymore.
Move on to more challenging PVE content and leave the easiest sites to the newbros.
Are you giving out free datacores and decryptors for my invention alt then? |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
801
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:36:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:A 2007 'toon' like yourself shouldn't really be doing data/relic sites anymore.
Move on to more challenging PVE content and leave the easiest sites to the newbros. Are you giving out free datacores and decryptors for my invention alt then? Buy them from the newbros, that way you'll support them (with ISK) instead of popping the poor dudes. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22678
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:37:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:If the analogy and argument is lost on you, then I probably won't be able to explain it in a manner in which you can understand..... So what you're saying is that you can't actually formulate any kind of coherent argument?
Binah 369 wrote:Are you giving out free datacores and decryptors for my invention alt then? Just buy them off the market. You'll make more money that way.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5901
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:43:00 -
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Binah 369 wrote:
If the analogy and argument is lost on you, then I probably won't be able to explain it in a manner in which you can understand.....
There is no analogy and you have expressly ignored the point of my response.
You have nothing.
I dare you to prove me wrong "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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