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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:52:00 -
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So how does a smaller alliance deal bigger entities like EE and SYJ, for instance when we roam in small gang they 100% bridge a fleet and caps on us, and infact yesterday they were kind enough to drop 3 supers on our tier3 gang I'm wondering how could a smaller entity take on bigger cap entities without bat phoning and without sufficient caps ourselves some sort of guerrilla warfare? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:53:00 -
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Why would you roam where effectively the State Navy operates and not down in Somaliland?
That dont make no sense, dawg "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:56:00 -
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Well I have a lot of new bros in alliance with not much skill so I take them out on small gang roams but we might have to head to fw rather than genesis and aridia for some fun fights where we stand a chance of winning/having fun |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:59:00 -
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My uncle is kindofa a bigger entity, And holy shiart is he sensitive about that issue.
I just made one little joke. One tiny weeny itzy bitzy comment about his size, maybe two but for sure no more than three, and he won't even talk to me for 2 years now.
So when dealing with bigger entities, don't try to be funny unless you know what you're doing.
Kinda sad, really. Why do people always make a fuss about somthing like that. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
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Posted - 2014.06.30 13:59:00 -
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You're gonna have an even harder time in Aridia. That's LowSechnaya Sholupen territory, and they are much nastier than SYJ and EE. You should talk to SYJ about renting in Khanid, they have lots of room and a good deal, and offer full patronage (ie instead of dropping on you, they'll drop on the people harassing you). You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:13:00 -
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Renting lowsec is a thing now? Lolol |
Pine Marten
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:15:00 -
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Renting is your answer now to anything that troubles you in low-sec/null. They call it renting but its actually just paying a bribe so you dont get your ass kicked lol |
Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:20:00 -
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Yeah pass on renting we will become the Taliban of genesis exept without the religion |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:23:00 -
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Crazy Mineer wrote:Yeah pass on renting we will become the Taliban of genesis exept without the religion
You can't have Genesis without;
1) Religion
OR
2) Peter Gabriel "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
929
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:24:00 -
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Can't really combat them straight up if your size is limited. Best bet is to go mention to another big group that so and so like to drop big things and ask if they would be interested in dropping on a fleet like that sometime. Depending on your size that is about your only real combat option. Otherwise, get better at recognizing drops, and be prepared to dock up, best case scenario you take the fight and come out ahead in isk efficiency. |
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:28:00 -
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Mostly intel, I guess.
You have to get to know the big guys, which systems they stage from, if they have bridging titans, if yes in which system, who are their neutral scouts/cyno alts, etc..
Yeah it's hard sometimes.
Or try to fight in FW complexes. Mediums allow up to t2 cruisers (not t3) into the acceleration gate.
Larges don't have a gate, they allow any ship but it's still deadspace: no cynos, no warp-to on grid. |
Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:30:00 -
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Yeah last fleet we had we decided **** it and went balls deep into there bait razu when he uncloaked and put up the cyno lost our entire moa fleet but we came out positive isk wise thank god for 20 mil ospreys :D |
Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:32:00 -
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Yeah think we will roam fw space until the collective experience has risen in our fleets |
Dalto Bane
Black Swarm Locust
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:37:00 -
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The enemy of your enemy is your friend.
Coordinate with other small alliances and corps for a counter offensive. Have HIC's and DPS on standby for the next drop. Gather intelligence prior to anything though. Once the escalation happens, you want to have more to bring than they are willing to bring. Good Luck! Dalto Bane for CSM10- Getting an early start. -á-My posts are my platform
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:48:00 -
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A useful trick is to watchlist the key people involved on dropping on your gangs (such as the Supers dropped on you, any bridging Titans you can identify, maybe FC's you know have led fleets against you), and you can then use this to know if these people are around and likely to cause you trouble (and in the case of the Supers, if you see them all log on simultaniously when your fleet is near by, will give you advance warning of imminent molestation!) |
Diablo Ex
Lilith's Shadow
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Posted - 2014.06.30 14:50:00 -
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If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them! Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |
Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 15:07:00 -
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Thanks for all the info I take it on board
o7 |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2014.06.30 16:02:00 -
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If in 0.0...Afk cloaking. If low sek. Ring some bells...means shoot pocos...they will have a full mailbox. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
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Posted - 2014.06.30 16:32:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them! i had a look and apparently you need to set ee's tents on fire, mineer
so, uh, go and find those tents. watch out for the chinese dudes on horses. with bows and arrows. |
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
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Posted - 2014.06.30 16:43:00 -
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I really wished this thread would stop baiting me... :/ - If you feel like you're putting much more into something than others, - - it's probably because it's true and you do... and they don't care. - |
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Diablo Ex
Lilith's Shadow
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:10:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them! i had a look and apparently you need to set ee's tents on fire, mineer so, uh, go and find those tents. watch out for the chinese dudes on horses. with bows and arrows.
In a manner of speaking, yes. Always be observant of your terrain as well. The Mighty Supercap Blobs are not invincible, they cost resources to deploy. You can count on the fleet pilots to be miserable as well. The small guerrilla force is highly mobile, and fast. The SuperBlob is an overly large, unwieldy hammer. Use this to your advantage. Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:24:00 -
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Crazy Mineer wrote:So how does a smaller alliance deal bigger entities like EE and SYJ, for instance when we roam in small gang they 100% bridge a fleet and caps on us, and infact yesterday they were kind enough to drop 3 supers on our tier3 gang I'm wondering how could a smaller entity take on bigger cap entities without bat phoning and without sufficient caps ourselves some sort of guerrilla warfare?
1) Join them.
2) Put in place 2 year plan to destroy them from the inside.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:30:00 -
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Dalto Bane wrote:The enemy of your enemy is your friend.
No, the enemy of my enemy is the guy I'm going to use to bait my enemy so I can shoot my enemy in the back while he's distracted.
When I'm done with my enemy, I'll kill the bait before he can attack me.
MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.30 17:39:00 -
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Dalto Bane wrote:The enemy of your enemy is your friend.
The enemy of my enemy is the guy who is pretending to be my enemy's enemy so I will be friendly to them in the hope I expose a weakness
TRUST NO ONE "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:38:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them! i had a look and apparently you need to set ee's tents on fire, mineer so, uh, go and find those tents. watch out for the chinese dudes on horses. with bows and arrows. In a manner of speaking, yes. Always be observant of your terrain as well. The Mighty Supercap Blobs are not invincible, they cost resources to deploy. You can count on the fleet pilots to be miserable as well. The small guerrilla force is highly mobile, and fast. The SuperBlob is an overly large, unwieldy hammer. Use this to your advantage. Yes, I advise using your fast ishtar fleets to reinforce multiple POS.
You must not go near it when the timer is about to end though, as there'll likely be a fleet of carriers on it. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Haaranovor tenn
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:51:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them! i had a look and apparently you need to set ee's tents on fire, mineer so, uh, go and find those tents. watch out for the chinese dudes on horses. with bows and arrows. In a manner of speaking, yes. Always be observant of your terrain as well. The Mighty Supercap Blobs are not invincible, they cost resources to deploy. You can count on the fleet pilots to be miserable as well. The small guerrilla force is highly mobile, and fast. The SuperBlob is an overly large, unwieldy hammer. Use this to your advantage.
The super blob just has to sit at anything you reo, let the triage rep it, then go home. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.01 00:01:00 -
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Drop siphons on all of their good moons & pur AFK cloakers in the systems of their renters. You can't straight up fight them, but you can affect their income streams. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Lugia3
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
992
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Posted - 2014.07.01 01:56:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Drop siphons on all of their good moons & pur AFK cloakers in the systems of their renters. You can't straight up fight them, but you can affect their income streams.
Anti-nullbear tactics don't work in lowsec. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Diablo Ex
Lilith's Shadow
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Posted - 2014.07.01 02:23:00 -
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Haaranovor tenn wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them! i had a look and apparently you need to set ee's tents on fire, mineer so, uh, go and find those tents. watch out for the chinese dudes on horses. with bows and arrows. In a manner of speaking, yes. Always be observant of your terrain as well. The Mighty Supercap Blobs are not invincible, they cost resources to deploy. You can count on the fleet pilots to be miserable as well. The small guerrilla force is highly mobile, and fast. The SuperBlob is an overly large, unwieldy hammer. Use this to your advantage. The super blob just has to sit at anything you reo, let the triage rep it, then go home.
Certainly, and while the super blob is there.... you can be elsewhere They can't be everywhere at once can they? How many days of continuous CTA's sitting there in numerous systems doing boring triage, listening to the fleet grumble about no fights, until they start to miss a few? Then you hit the one they miss with a few volleys, convince them that there is a fight and then jump out again. Cat & mouse. Sure you may lose a ship here & there, but you can wear down morale and their endurance. Keep the Superblob continuously logged on 23/7 chasing ghosts and burning fuel. Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.01 02:24:00 -
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Well first you have to have them properly measured. If you don't know the proper size ordering the right... What? Oh... Uhh... Never mind. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |
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