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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
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Posted - 2014.06.30 23:57:00 -
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"My word lies within all, All it requires is the breath of faith, To ignite the fire, So the lost can find their way, So the fallen can rise, To take their place as my chosen, For you are all my creation, And are all equal in my kingdom." GÇö The Apocryphon
Myth: The Apocryphon abrogates previous Scripture. Fact: The Apocryphon does not abrogate one iota of Holy Amarrian Scripture. Indeed, note the similarity of the Apocryphon to the following quotation from the canonical Scripture's Book of Trials: "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all; When thine heart shines with the Light, thou shalt know no hardship; When thine actions are in Light's name, thou art immortal." GÇö The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:1
Myth: The Apocryphon says all races are equal. Fact: Like the canonical Scriptures, the Apocryphon divides the world into GÇ£ChosenGÇ¥ and GÇ£Not ChosenGÇ¥. The Not Chosen are called GÇ£lostGÇ¥ and GÇ£fallenGÇ¥; in order to become Chosen according to the Apocryphon, these require a GÇ£breath of faithGÇ¥. Unlike the GÇ£wordGÇ¥, the GÇ£breath of faithGÇ¥ is not present within everyone, and without it a people remains GÇ£lostGÇ¥ and GÇ£fallenGÇ¥ like the Minmatar.
All races, of course, had heard the Word of God, but only the Amarr obeyed it. Only they, because they had the GÇ£breath of faithGÇ¥ and stayed true to the faith, avoiding heresy and blasphemy, became the Chosen, according to the Scriptures: "Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good. Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land. The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood. But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God. Thus they were saved and became God's chosen." GÇö The Scriptures, Book II 2:1
Myth: The Apocryphon says all people are equal. Fact: The last two lines of the Apocryphon text proclaim nothing at odds with the strict hierarchy of man as proclaimed in the canonical Scriptures: As Garrulor rules the skies; as Frisceas rules the sea; As Emperor rules Holder; as Holder rules Serf; Yet all under Heaven serve Me; So shall Amarr rule the worlds of the Heavens. GÇö The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 3.19 - 3.21 That God would say, GÇ£you are all my creationGÇ¥ can hardly be considered a statement on the equality of man, for Fedos and Slaver Hound fleas are also God's creation, and surely they are not equal to holders and Emperors. That God would say, GÇ£all are equal in my kingdomGÇ¥ says nothing about those outside the kingdom, a group which must include at least all those outside the faith. Indeed, even within the faith, Sani Sabik have not held an expansive definition of equality, as nearly all such groups identify savants, persons (like myself) of superior intellect and spiritual insight meant to serve as rules and leaders. I suspect that the GÇ£kingdomGÇ¥ mentioned in the Apocryphon is actually Paradise.
Myth: It is OK to be Minmatar. Fact: As we have seen, nothing in the Apocryphon has given any hope to the Minmatar, a filthy subhuman people whom God has given over to destruction.
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Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
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Posted - 2014.07.01 00:19:00 -
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2/10 GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |
Kyoko Sakoda
Sakoda Security Services
150
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Posted - 2014.07.01 01:12:00 -
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So... busted? |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
504
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Posted - 2014.07.01 02:11:00 -
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Nauppie still trying to validate his faith while discrediting already established practices?
Give him this, he's got a set of stones..... I'm puzzled as to why the theology council hasn't relived him of them yet. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1727
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Posted - 2014.07.01 06:23:00 -
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Myth: Being a blooder makes you cool and edgy.
Fact: No it doesn't and it could condemn your soul to eternal misery. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Amber Patoria
Rolled Out
592
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Posted - 2014.07.01 06:44:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Myth: It is OK to be Minmatar. Fact: As we have seen, nothing in the Apocryphon has given any hope to the Minmatar, a filthy subhuman people whom God has given over to destruction. Uhmm, excuse me sir but that's really quite nasty.
And kinda not accurate either. I can confirm I am completely human and as for "filthy" well I shower twice per day and, thanks to the example set by my Achuran colleagues, I take pride in being really well groomed and mannered. In fact I'd bet I'm much healthier and cleaner than you!
It's not nice to generalize or to make stereotype thingies.
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Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
212
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Posted - 2014.07.01 07:19:00 -
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Nauplius wrote: Myth: It is OK to be Minmatar. Fact: As we have seen, nothing in the Apocryphon has given any hope to the Minmatar, a filthy subhuman people whom God has given over to destruction.
I can tell you on firsthand authority that it is awesome to be Minmatar.
And if our active times coincided, I would show you exactly why that is. Karynn Denton Caravan Master
Thukking about! In Rifters! On drugs! \o/ |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
2219
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:34:00 -
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No, seriously, Sani Sabik, put this guy through the gauntlet. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
213
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Posted - 2014.07.01 14:10:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:No, seriously, Sani Sabik, put this guy through the gauntlet.
Tiberious Thessalonia's standard reply to anything I say or write is a request that I be run through a so-called "gauntlet". As I am not a member of the Blood Raider Covenant, I am not familiar with this practice. The implication is that it is some kind or torturous initiation rite. I request that Tiberious Thessalonia provide further explanation as to how I would benefit from this rite.
Note that while the Blood Raiders have preserved some truths about God, they have also gone astray in some areas, notably their operation of Pleasure Hubs, an affront to God's holy eyes. Thus, it cannot be assumed that any particular Blood Raider tradition would be to my spiritual benefit. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
213
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Posted - 2014.07.01 14:14:00 -
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Amber Patoria wrote:Nauplius wrote:Myth: It is OK to be Minmatar. Fact: As we have seen, nothing in the Apocryphon has given any hope to the Minmatar, a filthy subhuman people whom God has given over to destruction. Uhmm, excuse me sir but that's really quite nasty. And kinda not accurate either. I can confirm I am completely human and as for "filthy" well I shower twice per day and, thanks to the example set by my Achuran colleagues, I take pride in being really well groomed and mannered. In fact I'd bet I'm much healthier and cleaner than you! It's not nice to generalize or to make stereotype thingies.
You can clean every speck of dirt from your skin, but your soul remains hideously blackened with Minmatarness, and God shall not permit one gram of Minmatarness into Paradise.
That, and the tribal tattoos. For the sake of your eternal salvation, pod yourself out of them at once.
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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
2219
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Posted - 2014.07.01 14:42:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:No, seriously, Sani Sabik, put this guy through the gauntlet. Tiberious Thessalonia's standard reply to anything I say or write is a request that I be run through a so-called "gauntlet". As I am not a member of the Blood Raider Covenant, I am not familiar with this practice. The implication is that it is some kind or torturous initiation rite. I request that Tiberious Thessalonia provide further explanation as to how I would benefit from this rite. Note that while the Blood Raiders have preserved some truths about God, they have also gone astray in some areas, notably their operation of Pleasure Hubs, an affront to God's holy eyes. Thus, it cannot be assumed that any particular Blood Raider tradition would be to my spiritual benefit.
It would show that you are strong enough to take it. If you claim to be a prophet of the Sani Sabik you ought to be tested on that basis, no? |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
1721
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Posted - 2014.07.01 14:46:00 -
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Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:2/10
You're too generous. I give this nonsense 0.0025/10.
P.S. Naups please stop being terrible and getting shot out of the sky so often. My inbox is getting filled with your kill reports. Thanks.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
366
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Posted - 2014.07.01 16:36:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Tiberious Thessalonia's standard reply to anything I say or write is a request that I be run through a so-called "gauntlet". As I am not a member of the Blood Raider Covenant, I am not familiar with this practice. The implication is that it is some kind or torturous initiation rite. I request that Tiberious Thessalonia provide further explanation as to how I would benefit from this rite.
It is Written: "Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5
The Initiation Ritual, by being a Hardship, enables the Applicant to Demonstrate their True Nature, and reveals if they are Righteous or Not. |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
504
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Posted - 2014.07.01 16:50:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:No, seriously, Sani Sabik, put this guy through the gauntlet. I don't think the Sani Sabik want him initiated into their ranks..... It would make them look bad. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Anslo
Scope Works
5675
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Posted - 2014.07.01 17:04:00 -
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Come back to Bleak Lands and Heimatar. We miss chasing you while you scream.
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
213
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Posted - 2014.07.01 17:12:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote: P.S. Naups please stop being terrible and getting shot out of the sky so often. My inbox is getting filled with your kill reports. Thanks.
Negative. It is my ISK to lose. And the lives of my filthy Minmatar subhuman slave-crew is mine to lose too, whether in combat or in the ancient rite of Decimation that I performed on my slaves the other day.
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
574
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Posted - 2014.07.01 17:14:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Myth: Being a blooder makes you cool and edgy.
Fact: No it doesn't and it could condemn your soul to eternal misery.
Could, eh?
Well, isn't that interesting. |
Anslo
Scope Works
5675
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Posted - 2014.07.01 17:14:00 -
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But you don't lose them. You just run away.
Either way, I don't believe you actually do what you do. Probably all just one, big, edgy show for the hell of it.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1730
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Posted - 2014.07.01 17:39:00 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:Myth: Being a blooder makes you cool and edgy.
Fact: No it doesn't and it could condemn your soul to eternal misery. Could, eh? Well, isn't that interesting.
I think you'll find that most of my comments are interesting.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company
102
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Posted - 2014.07.01 20:34:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:
You can clean every speck of dirt from your skin, but your soul remains hideously blackened with Minmatarness, and God shall not permit one gram of Minmatarness into Paradise.
That, and the tribal tattoos. For the sake of your eternal salvation, pod yourself out of them at once.
No.
Souls are "hideously blackened" by choices, not by birth. If this young woman truly wishes to devote herself to God, who are you to say that she will be denied?
You never have, and never will, represent the Amarr Empire, nor the true faith.
You are the laughing stock of the cluster, and an infected, oozing, reeking boil to the Faithful.
I would be truly saddened for your soul, if you were not a depraved psychopath, driven by mere vanity and pride.
Your soul is a rotting, rancid, disease-ridden graveyard, filled with the most foul of pestilence and the most vile of fallacies.
Crawl back into whatever excrement-filled hole you came from, and biomass yourself, heretic.
Your doing so cannot happen soon enough. Fide et honore.
(OOC/ IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
505
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Posted - 2014.07.01 20:55:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Nauplius wrote:
You can clean every speck of dirt from your skin, but your soul remains hideously blackened with Minmatarness, and God shall not permit one gram of Minmatarness into Paradise.
That, and the tribal tattoos. For the sake of your eternal salvation, pod yourself out of them at once.
No. Souls are "hideously blackened" by choices, not by birth. If this young woman truly wishes to devote herself to God, who are you to say that she will be denied? You never have, and never will, represent the Amarr Empire, nor the true faith. You are the laughing stock of the cluster, and an infected, oozing, reeking boil to the Faithful. I would be truly saddened for your soul, if you were not a depraved psychopath, driven by mere vanity and pride. Your soul is a rotting, rancid, disease-ridden graveyard, filled with the most foul of pestilence and the most vile of fallacies. Crawl back into whatever excrement-filled hole you came from, and biomass yourself, heretic. Your doing so cannot happen soon enough. TL;DR :
Your wrong, you suck, go away. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
214
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Posted - 2014.07.01 22:30:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
No.
Souls are "hideously blackened" by choices, not by birth. If this young woman truly wishes to devote herself to God, who are you to say that she will be denied?
Do you think that God is going to allow Voluval marks in Paradise? Tattoos generally? Caravans? Chiefs? Elders? Clans, Shamans, or Fortune Tellers?
No, God is not going to allow any of these things into Paradise, not one bit. And should anyone knock upon those heavenly gates bearing the slightest drop of Minmatarness, God will only laugh as the sefrim carry that soul off to Hell. |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
505
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Posted - 2014.07.01 22:34:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
No.
Souls are "hideously blackened" by choices, not by birth. If this young woman truly wishes to devote herself to God, who are you to say that she will be denied?
Do you think that God is going to allow Voluval marks in Paradise? Tattoos generally? Caravans? Chiefs? Elders? Clans, Shamans, or Fortune Tellers? No, God is not going to allow any of these things into Paradise, not one bit. And should anyone knock upon those heavenly gates bearing the slightest drop of Minmatarness, God will only laugh as the sefrim carry that soul off to Hell. As God, I would like to be clear that this man doesn't represent me at all. All are welcome in my kingdom. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Wendrika
Offworld Trading Company
63
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Posted - 2014.07.02 03:28:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Do you think that God is going to allow Voluval marks in Paradise? Tattoos generally? Caravans? Chiefs? Elders? Clans, Shamans, or Fortune Tellers?
I don't have any of those. Am I a good girl? I even unbraided my hair recently to look more normal. Maybe I'll bleach it too! But I must confess... I once ate a fortune cookie with the fortune still inside... Tasted like ink... Does that count as a Fortune Teller thingie?
Please Mister Nauplius. Don't be so mean! Minmatar aren't all evil or anything. Some of us are quite good. And I still believe one day god will forgive you for being so mesn everyday. |
Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
214
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Posted - 2014.07.02 06:04:00 -
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Wendrika wrote:I even unbraided my hair recently to look more normal.
I don't even know where to begin...
Karynn Denton Caravan Master
Thukking about! In Rifters! On drugs! \o/ |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
433
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Posted - 2014.07.02 11:21:00 -
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Come now, Karynn dear.
Some people just prefer the 'good girl' demeanor. A rather bold tactic in any case, let's see if it pays out for her. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
2220
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Posted - 2014.07.02 12:28:00 -
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Wendrika wrote:Nauplius wrote:Do you think that God is going to allow Voluval marks in Paradise? Tattoos generally? Caravans? Chiefs? Elders? Clans, Shamans, or Fortune Tellers? I don't have any of those. Am I a good girl? I even unbraided my hair recently to look more normal. Maybe I'll bleach it too! But I must confess... I once ate a fortune cookie with the fortune still inside... Tasted like ink... Does that count as a Fortune Teller thingie? Please Mister Nauplius. Don't be so mean! Minmatar aren't all evil or anything. Some of us are quite good. And I still believe one day god will forgive you for being so mesn everyday.
They let you fly a spaceship. My god. With your brain, even. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
214
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Posted - 2014.07.02 12:29:00 -
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Wendrika wrote: I don't have any of those. Am I a good girl? I even unbraided my hair recently to look more normal. Maybe I'll bleach it too! But I must confess... I once ate a fortune cookie with the fortune still inside... Tasted like ink... Does that count as a Fortune Teller thingie?
Please Mister Nauplius. Don't be so mean! Minmatar aren't all evil or anything. Some of us are quite good. And I still believe one day god will forgive you for being so mesn everyday.
God does not care whether you are good. He cares whether you are Chosen.
Do you want to become Chosen? Seek out a Brutor, Sebiestor, or Vherokior. Strap him half-naked unto the altar of God, raise the knife over him, and with a perfectly executed splatter cut drive it through his chest. Feed from the open wound, and fill one-third of a golden vial with his blood. Repeat this process with victims of the other two bloodlines. Your golden vial is a precious symbol of the faith, to be worn always, for the blood of the Brutor gives strength, the blood of the Sebiestor gives intellect, and the blood of the Vherokior gives wisdom.
Amen. Amarr Victor. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
214
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Posted - 2014.07.02 12:30:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: They let you fly a spaceship. My god. With your brain, even.
You're being mean. |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
93
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:00:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Do you want to become Chosen? Seek out a Brutor, Sebiestor, or Vherokior. Strap him half-naked unto the altar of God, raise the knife over him, and with a perfectly executed splatter cut drive it through his chest. Feed from the open wound, and fill one-third of a golden vial with his blood. Repeat this process with victims of the other two bloodlines. Your golden vial is a precious symbol of the faith, to be worn always, for the blood of the Brutor gives strength, the blood of the Sebiestor gives intellect, and the blood of the Vherokior gives wisdom.
Sheesh. And all those Amarrians are saying that we are primitive savages. I think we got a textbook example of stone-age ritual practices right here, Mr. Nauplius.
I'd also suggest that eating the heart of a slain enemy gives you his courage, eating his fresh liver gives you his health, and eating his fresh brain... never mind.
But, on the other hand...
Quote:blood of the Brutor gives strength, the blood of the Sebiestor gives intellect, and the blood of the Vherokior gives wisdom. ...That might also imply that our blood has inherent magical properties, like that of certain beasts of legend! Wow. Are you sure, Mr. Nauplius, that it isn't our race that is Chosen? Or, at the very least, Blessed?
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