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Kotch 247
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:39:00 -
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On several occasions I've spent hours exploring low sec space only to find nothing but wormholes, gas sites and combat sites. Today in over two hours I found one data site worth just over 100,000 ISK. I really like the idea of exploring space to find stuff but with such slim pickings it seems like a waste of my time. Am I just having a run of bad luck or is this what I should expect from exploration? |
Seth's Dead
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
4
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Posted - 2014.07.01 11:01:00 -
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I do better than that in high sec. Either you were incredibly unlucky, or someone was in front of you also exploring. Even just a few jumps from Jita I find sites without too much trouble. |
Deebo Singleton
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.07.03 04:45:00 -
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I kill explorers on a regular basis who have a few million in hack/arch loot in their holds. Seems to be working for them. vOv |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
522
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Posted - 2014.07.03 05:06:00 -
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When the new exploration mechanic first came out... the one with the mini game, I fitted a probe and went straight to null. I did not even bother looking for sites in high and low sec. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Kayagainen Iwalula
Etsala Trading Company
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Posted - 2014.07.03 09:44:00 -
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Try the area around Barleguet. I've found many data and relic sites in that part of Placid.
Caleidascope wrote:When the new exploration mechanic first came out... the one with the mini game, I fitted a probe and went straight to null. I did not even bother looking for sites in high and low sec.
Do this too. On the occasions that I've found WH chains that lead to systems deep in nullsec, I've got lots of good loot from them. |
Kotch 247
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.07.03 10:19:00 -
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I had some better luck yesterday, although I found more wormholes/combat sites than data/relic sites.
I daren't go into wormholes because the two times I did that I got blown up by Sleepers and podded by someone camping the exit.
I have less than 400,000 SP and my scanning skills are still 3 or under. Are the minigames in null harder than the ones in low? If so I'll stay away for now. |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2014.07.03 12:55:00 -
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Kotch 247 wrote:I had some better luck yesterday, although I found more wormholes/combat sites than data/relic sites.
I daren't go into wormholes because the two times I did that I got blown up by Sleepers and podded by someone camping the exit.
I have less than 400,000 SP and my scanning skills are still 3 or under. Are the minigames in null harder than the ones in low? If so I'll stay away for now.
Don't give up. Exploration is based on luck. Sometimes i didn't find sig for whole evening sometimes i get relic every jump. Check "pocket systems", off main routes. Signatures are often stacking there. Move to less populate regions. Explore Lots of new toys in lowsec, so activity is increased. Minigames are harder in null but only on 90 system core coherence cans (without tech2 hacking device and without luck you will fail on this most of times). Example site may contain 2 ruins can (90 coherence), 3 remains (70), 2 rubble (70 easier that remains). Nullifier is strongly advised. Bacon tastes so much better when it's marinated in vegan tears.-á |
Deebo Singleton
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.07.03 14:05:00 -
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Kotch 247 wrote:I had some better luck yesterday, although I found more wormholes/combat sites than data/relic sites.
I daren't go into wormholes because the two times I did that I got blown up by Sleepers and podded by someone camping the exit.
I have less than 400,000 SP and my scanning skills are still 3 or under. Are the minigames in null harder than the ones in low? If so I'll stay away for now.
My scouting alt has just L3 probing skills save for L4 astrometrics itself and he has no problem getting around and finding stuff in null or taking wh highways. I don't know what your odds are with the hacking game at rank3 but I'll bet it's nonzero and probably better than 50:50. Good stuff considering the zero risk of an alpha clone and t1 frigate. vOv |
Kotch 247
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.07.03 14:39:00 -
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Hm, thanks guys. I think I still feel fairly risk averse as I've only just got the skills to fit my first Imicus and I don't want it to blow up My first haul yesterday netted me 18 million ISK which isn't a lot but enough to pay for a few more Imicus replacements.
I think it's time to take the plunge to null. Hopefully all the containers won't explode on me... damn restoration nodes... |
Deep Navigation
Spack Force 5
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Posted - 2014.07.09 12:22:00 -
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Kayagainen Iwalula wrote:Try the area around Barleguet. I've found many data and relic sites in that part of Placid.
Well that explains a lot. Barlequet and it's constellation has been busy the last couple of days. On the other hand I've had fun camping data sites and getting some easy kills.
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Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.09 13:32:00 -
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This evening I was pulling out my little probe fitted ship to do a bit of exploration, pinged the dir scan as a reflex and there were at least four full flights of probes on scan... turned aronund and returned in station. |
Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2014.07.10 02:40:00 -
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I think its mostly luck. The area of Low that I run in is full of Data/Relic sites.
Come to Derelik and get rid of the stupid things. |
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:11:00 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:Come to Derelik and get rid of the stupid things.
That.
And it is less a matter of luck.
First: Region you are in. Second: Time you play. Third: the lower the sec status, the better. Fourth: Play it like hegdehogs have sex: very careful.
Pirates are only lowsec and some of them are brave enough to enter the first 2 nullsecs after the lowsec border. Behind that pirates are only a.) already dead or b) not there.
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Maxis Lithium
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:46:00 -
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From what I understand, systems that don't see as much traffic are likely to have available sites to scan down. You should be able to set on your star map to show you the player tragic in each system in the past half hour or so. This should give you an idea of where sites MIGHT be. |
Akiel Endashi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.08 12:20:00 -
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Id go with with far more random than, that. Just got back from an eve sabbatical, jumped in a heron with basic exploration skills. 2 jumps from Jita relic site, worth 3m ISK. More than paid for equipping it |
Nyemm Meir
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:09:00 -
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Actually i do agree that there are far more wormholes than data/relic and gas sites. Thats something that really ticks me off.
I just started about 6 days ago and i already have some L3 scanning skills. I spend most of my time in midsec 0.5 - 0.7. I make about 3 - 6 mill in a day which i would say is decent for someone at my 6days of gametime level.
I havnt ventured any lower primarily because of pirates so im waiting to get my black ops 2 cloak and my black ops frigate.
And yes the star map statistics for players is probably the best weapon towards finding sites. I venture between 6 to 7 systems at any given moment and all of them will yield at least 2 to 3 data/relic sites in a 5 hour timeframe.
I like combat sites too but the problem is that its hard to fit a ship for both exploration and PVE. Unless of course you have a black ops battleship. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2145
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:12:00 -
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Nyemm Meir wrote:I like combat sites too but the problem is that its hard to fit a ship for both exploration and PVE. Unless of course you have a black ops battleship.
I... have to take issue with this. T3s do this well; the Stratios and Astero are built for it. Some CSs can do an admirable job.
In fact, Blops are one of the worst choices for what you describe. They have no bonus to scanning, no bonus to hacking, and gimped combat capabilities. They can't even warp cloaked in hostile space. They only thing they can really do is get in and out if you have another ship doing the rest of the work for you and even then see gimped combat capabilities. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:20:00 -
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one time I got 42 million isk out of a single relic site in null... |
Stubborn Stain
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:18:00 -
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Relic sites seem to be more common than data sites. I see a bunch of Relic sites when I'm scanning for Combat sites. I even catch quite a few gas sites (though the ones that spawn in hisec tend to be pretty worthless - they're the new omber ore site as far as trolling you goes). I've run a couple of the hisec relic sites, and they range from pointless to merely okay. The best I've done in a hisec relic site is ~2.5M ISK. Not bad, but not great either. Data sites (when you can find them in hisec) are even worse than Relic sites as far as ISK goes.
In general, the further away from Caldari space you roam, the more sites you'll find. I have to push back on the low-sec exploration advice: it's not worth it unless you're in it for the thrill of dodging pirates. The ISK payout isn't much better than in hisec. Nullsec and WH sites are where the best ISK is (but WH sites require high skills because the Sleepers are deadly enemies).
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Stone-Cold Gunther Sabre
Apollo Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2014.08.14 14:59:00 -
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I get more data than relic sites and maybe having a run of bad luck but low and null sec come up pretty empty for me right now. I guess it's luck. I always see far more WH and mission sites than data/relic sites.
I explored low sec in an Imicus or a Vexor for a long time until I had the skills for a convert ops ship and I would recommend it if you learn to use d-scan, check system stats for traffic/kills, before you go in + making safe spots. I only ever lost 3 ships; 2 in ghost sites, and one to pirates because I got stoopid late one night and forgot to fit a MWD to my hastily built cloaky Vexor, so my fault. |
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