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King Aires
Coffee Sipper's Club Biggby Coffee Fan Club
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Posted - 2014.07.13 11:38:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:arent c4s that is connected to c5 and c6 whs 3bill? I just remember that c4s were a special kind of pita when we lived in the c5 as you cant get caps through it.
we used to run them with rr tengus sure but rr domis will work just as well.
No, all C4 holes are 2bil or 1bil... Also there has yet to be reported a Empire to C4 wandering hole with the K162 in the C4... but on paper I guess it is possible. Still from what others have gathered even those would be 1 or 2bil.
Also second the recommendation for a Rattle or Proteus fleet if you have to stay on the dark side of the force. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.13 12:09:00 -
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hmm, so I get quick offers for WH but nothing concrete or close to technically feasible yet. I should post a list of factors that are related.
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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2014.07.13 18:36:00 -
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Spider tanked Rattlesnakes.
Print that isk fast! |
James Baboli
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.13 21:23:00 -
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Since I heard someone asking about BCs for it, I present the spider ferox. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
GordonO
The Oasis Group
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:23:00 -
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as said.. get drakes and do C3's. Make isk and when ready and have isk move up. I know you have no interest in missiles skills.. but for this type of PVE and others.. there is no better option. I have been there, tried the them.. and trust me.. ninjaing wh sites is best done in missile boats, or with good skills ishtars. BS are no good for jumping holes.. yes they work.. but you will at some stage get separated... or get extremely frustrated... Take the time to prep correctly.. its worth it. . |
King Aires
Coffee Sipper's Club Biggby Coffee Fan Club
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Posted - 2014.07.14 11:22:00 -
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GordonO wrote:as said.. get drakes and do C3's. Make isk and when ready and have isk move up. I know you have no interest in missiles skills.. but for this type of PVE and others.. there is no better option. I have been there, tried the them.. and trust me.. ninjaing wh sites is best done in missile boats, or with good skills ishtars. BS are no good for jumping holes.. yes they work.. but you will at some stage get separated... or get extremely frustrated... Take the time to prep correctly.. its worth it.
Yeah, unless you live in a hole with a static C4 you really aren't going to do day trips into C4's.
My C4 is usually 4 or 5 holes deep ( ) before I see empire space. And some times we get a spider web of holes and we practically have to draw and scan a hand made diagram.
Also most C4 holes are 16 hour 2 bil holes as stated before. I find 24 hour holes easier for a whole corp to ninja through, and because of the nature of C4's it is very hard to find them unoccupied.
Again, there are very few wanderings into a C4. We get about 3 a month and almost always from a C2 or C4. |
James Baboli
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.14 19:19:00 -
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King Aires wrote:GordonO wrote:as said.. get drakes and do C3's. Make isk and when ready and have isk move up. I know you have no interest in missiles skills.. but for this type of PVE and others.. there is no better option. I have been there, tried the them.. and trust me.. ninjaing wh sites is best done in missile boats, or with good skills ishtars. BS are no good for jumping holes.. yes they work.. but you will at some stage get separated... or get extremely frustrated... Take the time to prep correctly.. its worth it. Yeah, unless you live in a hole with a static C4 you really aren't going to do day trips into C4's. My C4 is usually 4 or 5 holes deep ( ) before I see empire space. And some times we get a spider web of holes and we practically have to draw and scan a hand made diagram. Also most C4 holes are 16 hour 2 bil holes as stated before. I find 24 hour holes easier for a whole corp to ninja through, and because of the nature of C4's it is very hard to find them unoccupied. Again, there are very few wanderings into a C4. We get about 3 a month and almost always from a C2 or C4. Google docs has a wonderful, sharable draw function that allows easy logical mapping by multiple scanners. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2014.07.16 03:13:00 -
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er, C4 to C1-C4 holes are always 2b mass & 16 hrs. C4 to C5-C6 holes are 3b mass. The ones that might differ are wanderings like T405 into C4 space. Never really bothered to check them.
Also, check out the w-space subforum, there's a sticky about what to use to sites. C4 anoms are pretty simple as long as you can tank 1400 dps, 100k ehp, survive nueting, outdps the reps & of course hit 80km ranges consistently.
2 domis & logi are pretty fast considering the total fleet cost. |
King Aires
Coffee Sipper's Club Biggby Coffee Fan Club
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:43:00 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:er, C4 to C1-C4 holes are always 2b mass & 16 hrs. C4 to C5-C6 holes are 3b mass. The ones that might differ are wanderings like T405 into C4 space. Never really bothered to check them.
Also, check out the w-space subforum, there's a sticky about what to use to sites. C4 anoms are pretty simple as long as you can tank 1400 dps, 100k ehp, survive nueting, outdps the reps & of course hit 80km ranges consistently.
2 domis & logi are pretty fast considering the total fleet cost.
It isn't about the holes that go FROM a C4, it is about what holes go TO a C4.
There are exits FROM a C4 to higher class holes that are 3bil, but there is no hole TO a C4 that is larger than 2bil 16hours.
You are missing the point is to get into the C4, not how to get back out.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes
For reference
Y683 X877 E175 Z457 T405 (very rare)
These are all 2bil holes, the last wanderer is the M609 which is even rarer than the T405 and it is 1bil. |
Kalel Nimrott
1108
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Posted - 2014.07.21 19:35:00 -
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Triakis Cadelanne wrote:Thanks for those replies. As I said, I don't want to use battleships since they would wreck the WH we want to use to acces the C4 and go back home. Ishtars may be nice but we don't have enough skilled member to find this as a valid solution. Same for Tengus (and a Tengu cost an arm and half).
I'll try some fit of spider tanked prophecy, thanks for the tip !
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Janeway84
Masters Of Destiny Pride Before Fall
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Posted - 2014.07.22 09:44:00 -
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rattlesnakes and shield rr domis work fine :) solo golem or 2 works alright too :) its c4's its not as difficult as c5's but c5's also tend to become easy if you actually got an active and big enough & experienced crew. I seen 2 battleship RR and 1 logi cruiser setup for c4's too. Hell once i saw some odd people fly c4 sites with 2 cerberus with 100 mn ab fits.. |
Rei Moon
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.23 03:00:00 -
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nightmare. |
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