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iu'ra
UEASC Technologies Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.04 19:00:00 -
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I have been running level 4's with SOE in Osmon and the income seem to be lacking. I have level 4 social skills for payout and lp gain and it still seems like I'm not making a ton. I am using a Machariel with 4 gyro's and an Ishtar with 4 dda. How can I improve my isk efficiency or what setup would you use? I can fly a Rattlesnake with T2 cruise in a few days and plan to run a RS/Ishtar after that.
Mach fit: Highs: 7x 800mm T2
Mids: 100mn ab T2 4x T2 TC (2 opt/2tracking)
Lows: T2 Lar 2x mission specific hardener T2 4x Gyro t2
Drones: 5 T2 Hornets / 3 Wasp and 2 Vespa 95mb3
Rigs: CCC Aux Pump T2 Hyperspatial
Implants: MG Ascendecy
Ishtar fit:
Highs: Drone Range Auto Targeter
Mids: T2 10mn ab 3x t2 omni (tracking) T2 drone nav
Lows: T2 MAR 4x DDA
Drones: 5x T2 Warden
Rigs: T2 Aux Pump T2 CCC
I am running this set ups actively. I am paying full attention and managing them we'll but it still seems inefficient |
Turdas Tundra
Byzantium Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:40:00 -
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Depends. How much do you realistically want to make?
Mach is considered by some to be the king of missions and it is really good at blitzing, but I haven't flown one myself. EVE Uni recommends an active Shield pulse tank and 800mm Autocannons with Gyros and tracking enhancers in the low slot, it will give you pretty massive DPS.
Rattlesnake since the change looks really appealing, I tried out the Gila and had a lot of fun with that so you could be onto something there.
Keep in mind using drones will make you more ISK as you don't have to pay for ammo and I assume with the RS massive drone buffs you won't lose a drone pretty much ever (my Gila's mediums were tough as nails in L3s).
The Ishtar fit seems pretty sick to me, is it your second character? Or a friend? Because you could try solo them and change to a Noctis and salvage/loot at slow points so you don't lose much time but get all the loot.
You pretty much want to maximise your DPS though, having just enough tank though of course. |
Garak n00biachi
Capital Destruction Brig Consortium
138
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:28:00 -
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Move to Langisi for an extra 10-20%lp? |
iu'ra
UEASC Technologies Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.04 23:49:00 -
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Turdas Tundra wrote:Depends. How much do you realistically want to make?
Mach is considered by some to be the king of missions and it is really good at blitzing, but I haven't flown one myself. EVE Uni recommends an active Shield pulse tank and 800mm Autocannons with Gyros and tracking enhancers in the low slot, it will give you pretty massive DPS.
I would like to make over 100m an hour even if it requires some pimp. I have yet to buy the 5% ROF/Lrg Proj turret Dmg but my Mach has the same dps as a shield one. |
snake03
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Posted - 2014.07.05 06:02:00 -
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iu'ra wrote:I have been running level 4's with SOE in Osmon and the income seem to be lacking. I have level 4 social skills for payout and lp gain and it still seems like I'm not making a ton. I am using a Machariel with 4 gyro's and an Ishtar with 4 dda. How can I improve my isk efficiency or what setup would you use? I can fly a Rattlesnake with T2 cruise in a few days and plan to run a RS/Ishtar after that.
Mach fit: Highs: 7x 800mm T2
Mids: 100mn ab T2 4x T2 TC (2 opt/2tracking)
Lows: T2 Lar 2x mission specific hardener T2 4x Gyro t2
Drones: 5 T2 Hornets / 3 Wasp and 2 Vespa 95mb3
Rigs: CCC Aux Pump T2 Hyperspatial
Implants: MG Ascendecy
Ishtar fit:
Highs: Drone Range Auto Targeter
Mids: T2 10mn ab 3x t2 omni (tracking) T2 drone nav
Lows: T2 MAR 4x DDA
Drones: 5x T2 Warden
Rigs: T2 Aux Pump T2 CCC
I am running this set ups actively. I am paying full attention and managing them we'll but it still seems inefficient
I would say the majority of players who run SOE level 4's in gankville (Osmon) are there for the LP, not the actual raw isk from mission payouts. Who in their right mind would subject themselves to the shenanigans going on in Osmon if the SOE Lp store wasn't so great? If you are worried more about raw isk(mission payout), than get a maruader and start looting and salvaging every mission, Also get your social skills to 5 and max out all your ship skills that would facilitate faster mission completion. DPS for starters. Just stating the obvious. Now, if you were not aware of all the great LP you have been earning while grinding your missions, try flipping some of that for isk and then come back here and post on how little isk you are making running level 4's in Osmon.
Protip: Don't lollygag on the undock of the SOE station in your mach, pimped or not.
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nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
138
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Posted - 2014.07.05 13:40:00 -
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CCP this gentleman here doesn't "make a ton" running missions in hisec. please fix or i quit |
Kijimea
Mulors
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Posted - 2014.07.05 13:56:00 -
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100 mil / hr with Lv 4 is easily doable once you have good skills. You need to find a good corp, good ISK / LP, a good system and knowledge of which missions are good and which are not. Thats it. Someone tried to tell me a while ago that 100 mil is not possible, talked about his experience in incursions and null plexing and stuff and i believed him but i can tell you that you can make a great profit with missions. I dunno about SOE though, but as i said, do some research and find a good place and especially a good rate for your LP. Ah and i do not blitz missions. |
iu'ra
UEASC Technologies Black Thorne Alliance
7
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Posted - 2014.07.05 16:13:00 -
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Garak n00biachi wrote:Move to Langisi for an extra 10-20%lp?
Langisi will have me face angels, correct? |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.05 19:04:00 -
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You need the pilot Social Skill level to be up to Level 5 and fully learned which takes about a 4 days or a few weeks... You also need the pilot Connection Skill (in the Social branch) to be up to Level 4 and fully learned to level 4. Level 5 in that skill would take another 4 days to around 7 days +.
Secondly, to reache the required level to be able to do Level 4 Missions without those skills learned takes more work.
So, to make it easier on yourself, learn the Social skill Level 5 and Connection Skills Level 4 (or 5).
Besides that, I am currently going to Apan... (something... I think Apanaken...) to do level 4 SOE missions. I just checked the first one and it was some though drone one with 4 triggers. I didn't accept the mission and by the time I was going to check on the time I had to accept, I couldn't log in.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
913
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Posted - 2014.07.06 00:18:00 -
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iu'ra wrote:Garak n00biachi wrote:Move to Langisi for an extra 10-20%lp? Langisi will have me face angels, correct?
- Lanngisi is mainly Angels so relatively easy missions to blitz unless you are limited to lasers.
- It is 0.5 space so you will get about 9400 LP per mission providing you have Security Connections at level V. The critical skill to train for maximum ISK is Security Connections ,
- It is also only 2 jumps from Hek so cashing in LP is easy (though if your not desperate for ISK you are better off saving the LP and cashing it in at Amarr where Sisters items fetch a premium).
- the proxomity of Hek and the crazies that live there means bling may attract undesirable attention |
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