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PKlavins
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:29:00 -
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im starting to train for HAC's these days...and ive found myself wondering...which is better? Amarr or Caldari HAC's? I see a lot of eagles around, and cerb prices are hyper-inflated...so they cant be too bad...but a corpmate says the zealot is really good...?
i want to train the right cruiser skill to lvl5 on the first go, so plz help me out here :)
and then, from which race...which HAC is best?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:31:00 -
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For you, Zealot. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:34:00 -
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Not caldari, the prices are high enough already
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire For you, Zealot.
how come?
more input appreciated :) need more opinions in my opinion (ok wasnt funny )
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: PKlavins
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire For you, Zealot.
how come?
more input appreciated :) need more opinions in my opinion (ok wasnt funny )
Caldari already too expensive. Eagles are nice. Cerberus are nice but pricey unless you can cough ISKs. Zealots and Sacrilege are both affordable. Hurts the wallet but not painful like Caldari HACs.
Sac can tank like no tomorrow. Zealot is good at range and can also tank but better at pure gank setup. They are both good ships IMHO. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:43:00 -
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go Caldari ^^
Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz go Caldari ^^
LOL. I am going Minmatar. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: PKlavins
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire For you, Zealot.
how come?
more input appreciated :) need more opinions in my opinion (ok wasnt funny )
Caldari already too expensive. Eagles are nice. Cerberus are nice but pricey unless you can cough ISKs. Zealots and Sacrilege are both affordable. Hurts the wallet but not painful like Caldari HACs.
Sac can tank like no tomorrow. Zealot is good at range and can also tank but better at pure gank setup. They are both good ships IMHO.
why is zealot better at gank? sac has moer hislots = missiles....wouldnt it be better for gank?
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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:48:00 -
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Neither. Train for gallente and get an ishtar or train minmatar and get a vagabond. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:48:00 -
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Caldari HACs are great for PVE, but in PVP they're severely lacking in DPS...Eagles are great for instapopping frigates at range, but that's about it, and it's a pretty menial task for something as special as a heavy assault. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tiuwaz go Caldari ^^
LOL. I am going Minmatar.
i already did
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: PKlavins
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: PKlavins
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire For you, Zealot.
how come?
more input appreciated :) need more opinions in my opinion (ok wasnt funny )
Caldari already too expensive. Eagles are nice. Cerberus are nice but pricey unless you can cough ISKs. Zealots and Sacrilege are both affordable. Hurts the wallet but not painful like Caldari HACs.
Sac can tank like no tomorrow. Zealot is good at range and can also tank but better at pure gank setup. They are both good ships IMHO.
why is zealot better at gank? sac has moer hislots = missiles....wouldnt it be better for gank?
Read the description on bonuses. Low slots all dmg mods. I feel like an angel whenever I think about Zealots. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:34:00 -
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just skip hacs... --------- Dead already? |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:40:00 -
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^^ so are ruptures
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC just skip hacs...
Vagabonds are fun for solo piracy, you cant argue with that... --- The Eve Wiki Community Portal | Eve Tribune |
Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing ^^ so are ruptures
^^ so are interceptors and AF. Even Thorax also good. Caldari isnt a solo race though. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Spuki
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari HACs are great for PVE, but in PVP they're severely lacking in DPS...Eagles are great for instapopping frigates at range, but that's about it, and it's a pretty menial task for something as special as a heavy assault.
400 dps from a cerb doesnt look that bad! But i have to agree that there are issues in pvp. Caldari HACs work best when operating longrange. Unfortunately it isnt possible to scramble from 150km distance, so caldari hacs are no good solo ships in my opinion. On the other hand you wont find a better HAC for fleet operatings than an eagle or a cerberus ...
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Spuki
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari HACs are great for PVE, but in PVP they're severely lacking in DPS...Eagles are great for instapopping frigates at range, but that's about it, and it's a pretty menial task for something as special as a heavy assault.
400 dps from a cerb doesnt look that bad! But i have to agree that there are issues in pvp. Caldari HACs work best when operating longrange. Unfortunately it isnt possible to scramble from 150km distance, so caldari hacs are no good solo ships in my opinion. On the other hand you wont find a better HAC for fleet operatings than an eagle or a cerberus ...
Or may be Caldari is not supposed to be a solo race? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Spuki
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Spuki
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari HACs are great for PVE, but in PVP they're severely lacking in DPS...Eagles are great for instapopping frigates at range, but that's about it, and it's a pretty menial task for something as special as a heavy assault.
400 dps from a cerb doesnt look that bad! But i have to agree that there are issues in pvp. Caldari HACs work best when operating longrange. Unfortunately it isnt possible to scramble from 150km distance, so caldari hacs are no good solo ships in my opinion. On the other hand you wont find a better HAC for fleet operatings than an eagle or a cerberus ...
Or may be Caldari is not supposed to be a solo race?
There are a few ships like raven, ferox and our crow that work pretty good solo, but its true that most of our ships perform best in a group. Thats why ive chosen Gallente as second race, there are just more ships that work great alone.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tiuwaz go Caldari ^^
LOL. I am going Minmatar.
/me hypnotizes Jenny
You want to go Caldari, Caaldaaaaariiiiiii
Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:20:00 -
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How can an entire RACE not be for solo operations?
Besides, as he said, the Raven and Crow are great solo. Can't really agree that the Ferox is great for ANYTHING, though. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:26:00 -
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ffs, go Hulk, its 4tw tbh
-------------------------------------- What you gonna do, when I come for yoU?! --------------------------------------
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tiuwaz go Caldari ^^
LOL. I am going Minmatar.
/me hypnotizes Jenny
You want to go Caldari, Caaldaaaaariiiiiii
Free Vags. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tiuwaz go Caldari ^^
LOL. I am going Minmatar.
/me hypnotizes Jenny
You want to go Caldari, Caaldaaaaariiiiiii
Free Vags.
for me? why thank you, thats very generous ^^
Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tiuwaz go Caldari ^^
LOL. I am going Minmatar.
/me hypnotizes Jenny
You want to go Caldari, Caaldaaaaariiiiiii
Free Vags.
for me? why thank you, thats very generous ^^
No, sorry.
For my own use. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Edhel
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Spuki
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari HACs are great for PVE, but in PVP they're severely lacking in DPS...Eagles are great for instapopping frigates at range, but that's about it, and it's a pretty menial task for something as special as a heavy assault.
400 dps from a cerb doesnt look that bad! But i have to agree that there are issues in pvp. Caldari HACs work best when operating longrange. Unfortunately it isnt possible to scramble from 150km distance, so caldari hacs are no good solo ships in my opinion. On the other hand you wont find a better HAC for fleet operatings than an eagle or a cerberus ...
400dps from a cerb isn't a very viable option. you're going to need faction modules for that
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
No, sorry.
For my own use.
darn, well it was worth a try
Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:17:00 -
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amarr as they both have the same specialisation
caldari - hybrid + missiles gallente - drones + hybrid -- minny - projectiles amarr - lasers Shinnen ------------------ I support macros, and make drugs legal in gallente space
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: HippoKing ^^ so are ruptures
Yeah, I fly a rupture now. Just that with the Vaga I will go much, much faster and be able to soak up some more damage. Dont you fly one for pvp yourself btw?
my minmatard can't fly HACs yet.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.06.25 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: LUKEC just skip hacs...
Vagabonds are fun for solo piracy, you cant argue with that...
Not at 200mil! If you have access to a Vagabond BPO however... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
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