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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
444
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Posted - 2014.07.13 22:47:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Well was good while it lasted. Thanks for the amarr dudes for trying to take the bull by the horns. In the past they have famously fell foul of idleness and finger pointing but here they have shown what they are made of.
As has been said in gal FW, the mechanics are pretty good but beyond defending your home, motivation for action has to come from the players.
Given the focus on Huola this has probably been the best siege in FW this year given the number of pilots in local most of the day. It appears that most of the amarr hierarchy are back to work on monday, so this looks to have fizzled out as a siege and all that remains is for them to lose the rest of their POS'd up assets.
Looking forward to the death throes of this campaign!
GF ALL! kill our pos's try. No interest in empty pos' uhuh. Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
996
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Posted - 2014.07.13 23:47:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Well was good while it lasted. Thanks for the amarr dudes for trying to take the bull by the horns. In the past they have famously fell foul of idleness and finger pointing but here they have shown what they are made of.
As has been said in gal FW, the mechanics are pretty good but beyond defending your home, motivation for action has to come from the players.
Given the focus on Huola this has probably been the best siege in FW this year given the number of pilots in local most of the day. It appears that most of the amarr hierarchy are back to work on monday, so this looks to have fizzled out as a siege and all that remains is for them to lose the rest of their POS'd up assets.
Looking forward to the death throes of this campaign!
GF ALL! kill our pos's try. No interest in empty pos' uhuh.
hey, if you want to leave millions of isk of failed ships lying around thats your call. Personally, ill leave a few bil of plex ships in station just in case you guys have another go down the line :)
Thanks again for the action caldari and amarr in huola! |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
444
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:00:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote: hey, if you want to leave millions of isk of failed ships lying around thats your call. Personally, ill leave a few bil of plex ships in station just in case you guys have another go down the line :)
Thanks again for the action caldari and amarr in huola!
threatens people with pvp just before leaving Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
996
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:08:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote: hey, if you want to leave millions of isk of failed ships lying around thats your call. Personally, ill leave a few bil of plex ships in station just in case you guys have another go down the line :)
Thanks again for the action caldari and amarr in huola!
threatens people with pvp just before leaving
Im not sure what you mean, im not the one that has stopped fighting. |
Loryanna
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 03:24:00 -
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The Huola Coalition will stand all Summer long, 23.75 hrs a day, 7 days a week. In fact Summer has been officially cancelled -instead we will obliterate our foes and send them reeling back to their foul nests, their eyes red rimmed from hastily wiped tears and their cheeks flushed with the ruddy glow of freshly picked fail. Rhetoric and lies will follow as the Amarrian Propaganda Machine splutters out yet more excuses as it tries to keep it's pilots from working out that they should have spent their Summer Break playing Titanfall. But this is fine; this is "The Amarrian Way", and I for one am glad they've been press-ganged into action.
Posturing aside, I really must thank you for your Burn Huola Campaign. Old friends are being welcomed home, old names are re-subbing, new brothers-in-arms are being forged and morale in the TLF and their many fine allies is at an all-time high. By bringing the ironically named WINMATAR aboard you have single-handedly given us more reason to band together than I have ever seen in 5 years of fighting and then by directing your ire upon Fortress Huola you have made our Coalition even stronger still. Arzad stood alone, and alone we fell fighting to the very last. Iron Oxide vs hundreds of FWedditors who hit our system when we had no one active. Huola is something completely different. Huola is larger than Iron Oxide, larger than any of us who now fight side-by-side to ensure it doesn't fall into the hands of liars and turncoats, sore losers and bad-allies. Huola is fixed point, a light in the darkness. It means trust and comradeship. It means having principals and doing right by those who have done right by you. This is why you covet it so, and this is why you will never prevail.
So keep it coming, boys. Don't let doing absolutely nothing in the first week of your campaign except create the most powerful and committed coalition to exist within Faction Warfare put you off now. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
444
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Posted - 2014.07.14 04:29:00 -
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Loryanna wrote:The Huola Coalition will stand all Summer long, 23.75 hrs a day, 7 days a week. In fact Summer has been officially cancelled -instead we will obliterate our foes and send them reeling back to their foul nests, their eyes red rimmed from hastily wiped tears and their cheeks flushed with the ruddy glow of freshly picked fail. Rhetoric and lies will follow as the Amarrian Propaganda Machine splutters out yet more excuses as it tries to keep it's pilots from working out that they should have spent their Summer Break playing Titanfall. But this is fine; this is "The Amarrian Way", and I for one am glad they've been press-ganged into action.
Posturing aside, I really must thank you for your Burn Huola Campaign. Old friends are being welcomed home, old names are re-subbing, new brothers-in-arms are being forged and morale in the TLF and their many fine allies is at an all-time high. By bringing the ironically named WINMATAR aboard you have single-handedly given us more reason to band together than I have ever seen in 5 years of fighting and then by directing your ire upon Fortress Huola you have made our Coalition even stronger still. Arzad stood alone, and alone we fell fighting to the very last. Iron Oxide vs hundreds of FWedditors who hit our system when we had no one active. Huola is something completely different. Huola is larger than Iron Oxide, larger than any of us who now fight side-by-side to ensure it doesn't fall into the hands of liars and turncoats, sore losers and bad-allies. Huola is fixed point, a light in the darkness. It means trust and comradeship. It means having principals and doing right by those who have done right by you. This is why you covet it so, and this is why you will never prevail.
So keep it coming, boys. Don't let doing absolutely nothing in the first week of your campaign except create the most powerful and committed coalition to exist within Faction Warfare put you off now. i am truely glad this has gotten your old comrades back. i hope to see more action from your old buddies like the old days.
But dont think for a minute that you fought fweddit for arzad, you fought us black watch guard, and pie. when fweddit arrived you through in the towel.
REALLY good defense as always loryanna, you havent changed since ever. Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro |
Loryanna
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:04:00 -
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Take a long hard look at the killboards from back then, Roflpockets. During the Fall of Arzad we steam-rollered you in our timezone; it's there in green and red. This is a prime example of the Amarr re-writing history because if they can't win a war in space they'd better win it on the forums. FWeddit conquered Arzad whilst a mere 50 active EU pilots slept: this is fact. But I guess if you lie to yourself long enough you'll probably start believing it so just keep on thinking it was your doing, mate.
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
266
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:33:00 -
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Loryanna wrote: FWeddit conquered Arzad whilst a mere 50 active EU pilots slept: this is fact. But I guess if you lie to yourself long enough you'll probably start believing it so just keep on thinking it was your doing, mate. We didn't want that system anyway. This one's much nicer
And who got the system up to 80-90%?
Loryanna wrote:We didn't want that system anyway. This one's much nicer
And that's what you'll say when you're in a non-faction warfare system.
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Loryanna
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 06:08:00 -
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It really shows how little CCP actually reads this forums, time and time again FW pilots state that they dont want some watered down Null Sov. That null and all it "leaders" playing Julius Caesar are not want we want, need or like. That endless bashing, and ship up = win is more likely to have us log off and not get stuck in.
FW pilots have been to null, have dealt with the Caesars and left. FW pilots like being able to undock in a thrasher and fight in minor plexes knowning four battlecruisers are not on the way. FW pilots like 2 on 4 fights, 5 on 5, 10 on 10. They like being able to play for a few hours or not.
Null is not our end game, Null is not appealing to us at all.
Do not ccp, turn our War into thier test bed. Our War is OURS, Your constant drive to move more and more people in to null is becoming annoying. We dont want to be their, stop pushing its game on us. We chose not to play it, respect that for once.
FIX FW, don't merge FW into Null Sec.
Its likely I've just wasted my time, cause no doubt no one from CCP reads this **** anyway. Who knows, maybe a Dev will reply but highly doubtful. |
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
19
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Posted - 2014.07.14 07:14:00 -
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back...being unglaublich WELTMEISTER, now the ******* Slavers can come....lets fight |
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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
599
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Posted - 2014.07.14 07:24:00 -
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Er,
So basically loryanna from my perspective your stance has gone from
'Minmatar and Gallente are pro and full of win, completely better than amarr/caldari in every way and we will rofl stomp your asses whether we have 5 ships or 50.'
to
'Minmatar and Gallente are pro and full of win, completely better than amarr/caldari in every way and we will rofl stomp your asses whether we have 5 ships or 500.'
All this posturing, saying OMG WE SO POWERFUL. Come on now, you weren't a pushover in huola to start with from a sov side of things. The only issue we had in amarr were that none of you logged in. I mean hell I and Thorin plexed Huola to 7% BY OURSELVES and murdered the guys logged in a week before this campaign. We could have carried on for another 6 hours if we didn't have work. You were indifferant, fat and lazy. Now we have opponents again and what's the worse that happens to us? We go to t1...... (OH WAIT) Before all this minnies thought of amarr as irrelevent anyway right? So exactly how much do you think we actually can fall? Do you honestly think that what you say means anything negative to a group of people constantly told we are terrible anyway :P
As for winmatar, like it or not they have embedded themselves into amarrian life with a lot more humility than they did in minmatar times. Hell i was one of their biggest detractors over that debacle and even sided with minnie/gals to kill them because LOL PR DISASTER but I'll give them this. They have a go, they create content and they give you a reason to bloody undock because of the seething hatred. It's comical, if they are so inconsequential then why do you give them so much forum time and relevence.
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
12
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Posted - 2014.07.14 07:49:00 -
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We like to give Winmatar attention because they are AWOXers and arrogant to boot. The Amarr are our enemies but there is the appreciation that they are a necessary evil (without them it would not be FW after all). Winmatar were one of us, and when the pendulum began to swing instead of fighting or accepting that the farmer hordes are a force of nature they declared themselves the only true militia and turned on their brothers and sisters. They will wear the stains of thier dishonour for as long as they exist...at least the Amarr are 'honest' enemies.
Keep an eye on them Amarr, fair weather friends and all that.
"Never trust a traitor Pietr, even one you create." Baron Harkonnen |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus Templis CALSF
628
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Posted - 2014.07.14 07:54:00 -
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Winmatar are pretty fun to fly with. Very entertaining on comms when there's nothing to fight Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |
H3llenK3ller
Parallax Shift The Periphery
0
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:41:00 -
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All I have to say is http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/hodor-1024.png?w=1032
And thanks to everyone for the good fights and content. Has been really fun! |
Loryanna
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
10
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:50:00 -
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I couldn't give rats ass what Tier we're on. For me FW is a free war-deck against an ever-changing group of players whose only similarity is that they are drawn to fly for a race of Imperialists that would rather crush other life-forms than reach out to them. RP? Maybe. Maybe not. There've been a few Amarr players I've respected over the years, guys who see things from a perspective similar to mine (it's about the beautiful game, let's say gf and even have a chat about it) but for the most part there has been an odd correlation between the mythos of the Amarr and the players who end up there. Same for the Minnies - guys who end up making their home with us tend to be chilled free-thinking types (I guess you'd called them pinkos and commies?).
I digress. The point being the last time we did anything based upon flipping systems was when we hit Kamela 18 months ago. The last group other than farmers who pushed the Amarr system-wise were this group called WINMATAR. They were oh-so-very-proud of crushing you guys right back to just Sahtoghetto. We never wanted that; we like PVP and y'all having 1 system kinda screws that up. In fact if memory serves BIO started AWOXing people because they didn't feel like they were pulling their weight in their crusade to orbit buttons, flame in local and write up their self-important exploits. What am I saying, it's a match made in heaven. You can all orbit buttons for days on end together linking awful pictures of pointless things in local whilst offending anyone who hasn't discovered the 'block alliance' button.
Posturing aside, we just want goodfights Christine. That's it, end of. So keep it coming, last week was a blast. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
766
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:59:00 -
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Loryanna wrote:80%?! Hahaha! We were holding you steadily beneath 50% until FWeddit showed up. And I do believe they showed up late, if I recall a previous chat with you - and you weren't too happy about their tardiness either. No, I'll not be having these incessant lies - FWeddit crushing us while none of us were on was part of your plan from the start. Isolating time-zone weaknesses is how you work, I know this for a fact, and you would not have taken Arzad without them. Sure, we were defeated and I accept that but do your allies the favour of giving them credit where it's due. I wouldn't dream of saying that Huola stands unbent after a week of your so-called assault without the help of our allies.
See you in space, Dane
if that's a weak attempt at sowing dissent among the amarr I think everyone in Amarr read the whole history of the arzad campaign in the thread linked in my signature.
Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Loryanna
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
10
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:03:00 -
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Dude that's the absolute truth. Take it or leave it, I really don't care. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
766
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:17:00 -
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I don't think you Minmatar are giving Winmatar guys enough credit. Sure they were young and mistakes were made, hell we even laughed at their inexperience a few times in the Bosbogor campaign. But with this Huola Campaign I am watching them grow into something meaner, laener and a soon to be HUGE force to be reckoned with.
MANY Winmatar FC's are just soaking in the knowledge and tactics used by the smaller more experienced corps like AVNG and SWKS even the Caldari. And I for one am happy to see formal enemies become allies and change from a typical Minmatar fw corporation pvp (you know what i mean) to a solid Amarr doctrine pvp corporation. They just need time but my o my they are adapting and learning fast.
While I have been known to explode on them on comms from time to time Flying hotpocket has amazed me with the patience he shows in guiding suggesting and even sharing new doctrines with them. Many a pvper are happy to see what they are becoming. Superchair even donated something like three hundred ships with fittings to them if I'm not mistaken.
Bottom line is while you may be all sore about the civil war. I see a corporation that is adapting and learning different ways to pvp and the Patience needed to grind home systems and try new doctrines while all I see in the huola crowd are the same doctrines from 2010.
Props to the Gallente, you know, I know and everyone in huola knows if they didn't come in and change up styles a little bit (those kestrels and derptrons) huola would have fell in three days. Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
766
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:23:00 -
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I think everyone, the Caldari, Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar should take a step back and see what is happening here in Huola. For the first time experiences and doctrines are being shared, petty infighting is being pushed aside and all out war is being waged in Huola.
I believe the CCP patch really fired up the pvp'ers to come back and not worry about chasing farmers all day, and with the need to chase farmers all day everyone is just focusing on pew pew pew.
I know for a fact everyone in huola is having a blast. Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Kary Franks
Angry Mustellid Overload Everything
29
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:52:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:I don't think you Minmatar are giving Winmatar guys enough credit. Sure they were young and mistakes were made, hell we even laughed at their inexperience a few times in the Bosbogor campaign. But with this Huola Campaign I am watching them grow into something meaner, laener and a soon to be HUGE force to be reckoned with.
MANY Winmatar FC's are just soaking in the knowledge and tactics used by the smaller more experienced corps like AVNG and SWKS even the Caldari. And I for one am happy to see formal enemies become allies and change from a typical Minmatar fw corporation pvp (you know what i mean) to a solid Amarr doctrine pvp corporation. They just need time but my o my they are adapting and learning fast.
While I have been known to explode on them on comms from time to time Flying hotpocket has amazed me with the patience he shows in guiding suggesting and even sharing new doctrines with them. Many a pvper are happy to see what they are becoming. Superchair even donated something like three hundred ships with fittings to them if I'm not mistaken.
*plays training music from Rocky movies for the thread*
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Loryanna
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
10
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:03:00 -
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I'll give you that, Mantis. Having the farmers no longer dictating the meta is a good thing indeed. |
Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
853
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:30:00 -
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Loryanna wrote:...but for the most part there has been an odd correlation between the mythos of the amarr and the players who end up there. Come on Lory, suggesting that people only join the amarr militia because they are some sort sick, megalomaniac type people into slavery, racism, fanatical religion and blood sacrifice, consistent with the amarr race is a silly association.
I do believe that a level of research and role play goes into most people's decision to join one of the militia. In the Minmatar case the underlying storyline of underdog to hero, against all odds, freedom fighters, wing and a prayer, ducktape, improvisation, versatility etc. etc. appeals to the people we see in our militia. Some take it more serious than others of course.
The amarr looked at the ships and went "Ooh Shinies!"
CTRL-Q - Minmatar FW - Low Sec PvP - Euro TZ - New Player Friendly Contact: Major Trant In game channel: FeO Public Recruitment thread: CTRL-Q |
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Space-Brewery-Association 24eme Legion Etrangere
103
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:46:00 -
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It is a shame that there is not an Amarrian EU TZ Core as from days of old. I know we're guilty of being part-timers at the moment. There is a will (no a need to fight) but RL > game.
FW does need a bit of repopulation in the Min / Amarr zone so that it is not EU vs US. That is what the correct changes to FW would bring, if only they'd think about the big picture and implement a good number of changes that precipitate growth in FW population.
FW is imbalanced (and does not really have the correct "draw") compared to other Eve activities.
One final thing I've remembered: Most wars for Eve Sov (null applies) have been won by not giving the enemy what they want. "Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier" |
Rahelis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
81
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:52:00 -
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Week II starts with a nice head start of 27% as I logged in - work and training called in, so that was not to my credit.
Minigal command moved out - so now it is up to the prowess of the minies.
Minie hope rests on the russian player base now - taking some time for some long need farming gives us ample time for making easy push.
AVNG psycho war is working as intended. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
13
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:23:00 -
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Rahelis wrote:Week II starts with a nice head start of 27% as I logged in - work and training called in, so that was not to my credit.
Minigal command moved out - so now it is up to the prowess of the minies.
Minie hope rests on the russian player base now - taking some time for some long need farming gives us ample time for making easy push.
AVNG psycho war is working as intended.
Does letting the contested rate go up mean we get fights in the EU time zone again? |
Anslo
Scope Works
5995
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:37:00 -
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Oh so it is contested again, eh?
Hold on, we'll fix that :)
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
445
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Posted - 2014.07.14 15:21:00 -
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Loryanna wrote:Take a long hard look at the killboards from back then, Roflpockets. During the Fall of Arzad we steam-rollered you in our timezone; it's there in green and red. This is a prime example of the Amarr re-writing history because if they can't win a war in space they'd better win it on the forums. FWeddit conquered Arzad whilst a mere 50 active EU pilots slept: this is fact. ]
Loryanna wrote:80%?! Hahaha! We were holding you steadily beneath 50% until FWeddit showed up. And I do believe they showed up late, if I recall a previous chat with you - and you weren't too happy about their tardiness either. No, I'll not be having these incessant lies - FWeddit crushing us while none of us were on was part of your plan from the start. Isolating time-zone weaknesses is how you work, I know this for a fact, and you would not have taken Arzad without them. Sure, we were defeated and I accept that but do your allies the favour of giving them credit where it's due. I wouldn't dream of saying that Huola stands unbent after a week of your so-called assault without the help of our allies.
See you in space, Dane
Nah, let me lay you out the actual truth. You butchered us for 3 weeks. our alleged out of timezone plexing brought arzad up to 80% 3 seperate times and you guys brought it right back down to zero each time. Maybe you dont remember but the dust swings in arzad were massive allowing these huge swings in one timezone. We weren't taking arzad on our own. We knew we had to had to have somebody to crush you in the EU timezone to seal the deal.
And yeah the evidence is right there on your own killboard. When fweddit showed up, you fought them 3 times and then gave up. They crushed you in the EU tz, and when you couldnt pick your favorite 3 to 1 odds against us anymore you gave up. No we didnt like their tardiness, but they came nonetheless. We didnt win by out of timezone plexing we won because of fweddit making you go dockmatar in your own timezone.
GF sorry about arzad. Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro |
Rajeet Achmar
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
47
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Posted - 2014.07.14 15:26:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Winmatar are pretty fun to fly with. Very entertaining on comms when there's nothing to fight
I'm glad you enjoy it, I have to say we are the most non serious when there is no fight going on, every other alliance comms (save mabye test and brave) is always silent or boring as ****.
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Loryanna
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:43:00 -
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So the night before Arzad fell we went to bed with the system on like 60% and after downtime the next day when I logged on it was 98% with 150 FWeddit in system. FWeddit plexed all night, dude - just like they had done the night before. And I'm sorry we never engaged them but 100+ Talwars isn't my idea of fun. Oh yeah and a certain null-sec group was helping FWeddit too, with both the DUST modifier and logistics. I see they stay out of all your various stories.
However you have come the closest to the truth of any Amarrian I have spoken to yet and that does warrant some respect. GF dude. |
Rajeet Achmar
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
47
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:55:00 -
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This argument sounds like a fish story on loryannas standpoint, "you guys only had 40%" then "you guys only had 50%" then "you guys had 60%"
lol
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