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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2740
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Posted - 2014.07.12 04:25:00 -
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and why the *** are you posting this to public forums instead of using proper channels? eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7788
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Posted - 2014.07.12 04:28:00 -
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FA Shouna wrote:While I understand the reason for the rules, I am glad the OP posted this regardless because the more people that know, the more that will exploit it, and the faster CCP will need to fix it.
Also...based on the comments from some of the people practically confirming this exploit does exist, anyone talking about DDAs and "drone bays" (seriously...wtf) and claiming this is not an exploit...is clearly beyond hope.
They won't fix it any faster if he kicks up a stink on the forums. The process to determine the exploit is the same regardless. This just means they have way more cleanup afterward, since he posted it here for all to see instead of just dealing with his ticket wait time like a big boy.
I, for one, think we can lay the blame for this "forum witch hunt" mentality gaining popularity in recent times on the despicable Ripard Teg. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
121
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Posted - 2014.07.12 04:56:00 -
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Thank you, OP, for informing me of this exploit. Had you not violated the rules, I would have never known about it. Now I'm off to use this exploit, and I'll be sure to let everyone I gank know it was you who told me about it.
Edit: Oh, yeah. The above sentence is precisely why you don't post exploits on the forum!!! Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
206
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:09:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Thank you, OP, for informing me of this exploit. Had you not violated the rules, I would have never known about it. Now I'm off to use this exploit, and I'll be sure to let everyone I gank know it was you who told me about it.
Edit: Oh, yeah. The above sentence is precisely why you don't post exploits on the forum!!!
Aaaaand how many people don't know that this exists in the game? How many guys died to this and lost ISK without having a clue why?
I didn't know this was an exploit, I simply didn't understand how I, and my fleet, got decimated by two frigates.
Why would you want to punish the person bringing this the light instead of the people using the exploit? Literally makes no sense. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7789
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:14:00 -
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Phaade wrote: I didn't know this was an exploit
The thread has the word "exploit" in the title.
Quote: Why would you want to punish the person bringing this the light instead of the people using the exploit? Literally makes no sense.
Because it's against the rules we all agreed to. Even after being informed of this and having it linked to you, you continue to rail against it and puff yourself up like some kind of hero for having flagrantly violated several forum rules and the EULA.
Far less has warranted punishment in the past. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
122
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:15:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:Thank you, OP, for informing me of this exploit. Had you not violated the rules, I would have never known about it. Now I'm off to use this exploit, and I'll be sure to let everyone I gank know it was you who told me about it.
Edit: Oh, yeah. The above sentence is precisely why you don't post exploits on the forum!!! Aaaaand how many people don't know that this exists in the game? How many guys died to this and lost ISK without having a clue why? I didn't know this was an exploit, I simply didn't understand how I, and my fleet, got decimated by two frigates. Why would you want to punish the person bringing this the light instead of the people using the exploit? Literally makes no sense. Now you're just trying to cover your ass. Oh, you didn't know it was an exploit? Then why did you title your thread 'Gila Abandoned Drones Exploit?' You knew full well what you were doing, and we're all berating you for bringing it to the forums because it's against the damn rules to bring it to the forums!!! There's a set method to reporting exploits, and nowhere in that method is listed posting about it on forums and flaming anyone and everyone that tells you it was wrong to do so. Suck it up, accept your losses, and move on. You petitioned the exploit, and if it truly is one you will get your losses back. Your job is now done.
/thread Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Fix Lag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
778
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:19:00 -
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god this is hilarious CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude. |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
122
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:20:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:god this is hilarious Yup, I'm having fun here... at least til it's locked. Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:21:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:god this is hilarious Seriously man, this is my entertainment for the night. Get your own thread. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23118
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:32:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Aaaaand how many people don't know that this exists in the game? How many guys died to this and lost ISK without having a clue why? Tons more now than before you started spreading it. The ones rushing out to make the most of it now that you've brought it to the public will certainly add to that number.
Quote:I didn't know this was an exploit Yes you did. Just like you knew how to actually report it. Just like you knew that you have been accusing people all over the place. Adding more lies does not cover your arse here GÇö it just means you're breaking more and more rules every time you post.
Quote:Why would you want to punish the person bringing this the light instead of the people using the exploit? GÇ£As well asGÇ¥ not GÇ£insteadGÇ¥. You do that because, if anything, they do far more damage than the ones who currently use it. Just because you have noticed that your attempt to spread the exploit as far as possible has taken a negative turn does not mean that the rules make no sense. It just means that you had (hopefully temporarily) taken leave of your senses when you decided to break all those rules. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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Fix Lag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
778
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:32:00 -
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oh shit where's my boot.ini CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude. |
Malkaedofiz
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
2
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:35:00 -
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Stop making up for u lack of piloting skills |
Lady Areola Fappington
2037
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:47:00 -
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All this flame, fire and flash....
If it's actually an exploit, OP would have stood a decent chance of getting his stuff back via support ticket.
Now, all he'll get is some form of account action.
And, the thread will be nuked when ISD get around to checking forum flags.
Op success! This thread officially has 25% more pssssssshhh than leading competitors. Rick Moranis was never put on death row for shrinking his children. New York exists outside the mind of Billy Joel. A French press is not lifting weights with your tongue out. Lena Dunham is not a girl ventriloquist. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
571
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:48:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:oh shit where's my boot.ini
I had to use it. |
Neesa Corrinne
Binary Systems Industries
30
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Posted - 2014.07.12 06:13:00 -
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OP, all you will ever encounter on the official forums are hardcore white knights. CCP can do no wrong with the likes of them around.
Rather than simply agree that this is bad and needs immediate, without hesitation, devs not going home until it's done, hot fixing, they will straw man you to death the EULA as if you couldn't simply re-post on reddit/mmorpg.com/anywherefuckingelse without repercussion.
Whatever feeds them their insatiable, daddy-didn't-pay-me-enough-attention, worth of thumbs up tho. |
Maruk Ihnati
V I R I I Ineluctable.
23
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Posted - 2014.07.12 06:16:00 -
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Make sure you petition for exploits all the players that have done this. Include your logs and killmails.
On the other hand, this will prompt a fix from CCP now rather than later. Maybe Crius will be delayed. |
Riyria Twinpeaks
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
2034
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Posted - 2014.07.12 06:36:00 -
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Neesa Corrinne wrote:OP, all you will ever encounter on the official forums are hardcore white knights. CCP can do no wrong with the likes of them around. Rather than simply agree that this is bad and needs immediate, without hesitation, devs not going home until it's done, hot fixing, they will straw man you to death the EULA as if you couldn't simply re-post on reddit/mmorpg.com/anywherefuckingelse without repercussion. Whatever feeds them their insatiable, daddy-didn't-pay-me-enough-attention, worth of thumbs up tho.
As far as I've seen nobody says an exploit like that should not be fixed. There seem to be some who don't think an exploit happened, but they might have misunderstood or are trolling.
Aside from that people actually think the OP should not teach the rest of the world how to use that exploit, which he has done with this thread. Instead, they are saying he should use the petition/bug report system precisely to make the devs aware of this faster AND to avoid an exploit seeing even more wide-spread use. Citing the EULA, in my understanding, is just to further underline that the way the OP is reacting to an exploit is the wrong way.
I don't know how you constructed that into white-knighting and saying CCP can't do wrong.
Anyway.. informing the people sounds noble, but even if we assume nobody of the freshly informed people will use that exploit themselves, what do they gain by that knowledge? The confusion about unexpected performance of drones like that will be replaced by anger to be victim of an exploit. More people might report the use of that exploit, but since it should have been reported by the OP already, that's redundant information to CCP where most likely an investigation is already happening.
So imo the beneficial effect of people knowing is nearly non-existent. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10628
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Posted - 2014.07.12 06:38:00 -
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I wonder what would happen if you had a chain of Gilas successively picking up and abandoning two hammerheads. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
122
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Posted - 2014.07.12 06:46:00 -
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Neesa Corrinne wrote:OP, all you will ever encounter on the official forums are hardcore white knights. CCP can do no wrong with the likes of them around. Rather than simply agree that this is bad and needs immediate, without hesitation, devs not going home until it's done, hot fixing, they will straw man you to death the EULA as if you couldn't simply re-post on reddit/mmorpg.com/anywherefuckingelse without repercussion. Whatever feeds them their insatiable, daddy-didn't-pay-me-enough-attention, worth of thumbs up tho. Yes, because the obvious thing to do when you find an exploit is to make sure that even more people than already know about it find out how to do it. Yep, let's make sure this is fixed quickly by bogging down the system with even more complaints about this exploit because who knows how many people only learned about this because OP was dumb enough to advertise it. Whether he posted it here, at reddit, or managed to get it on the damn evening news doesn't make what he did any less wrong.
And, of course, just because we point all this out must absolutely mean that we have some desperate need for attention, rather then just think OP is an idiot. Suspect there might be some alt posting going on here as you're just as quick to start flaming as OP is... Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Pine Marten
Viziam Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:06:00 -
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Exploits should be posted on forums so we can see natural selection at its finest in new eden.
Suffer the pain of seeing your skillpoints stay the same for a month.
I am pro posting exploits on forums. Gives ccp more money since bans will be handed out for knowingly using said exploits.
Might leave some key players of a corp/alliance out of key fights for territory. Turning the tide. Never know.
Posting exploits on GD, emergent gameplay. |
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Pine Marten
Viziam Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:07:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I wonder what would happen if you had a chain of Gilas successively picking up and abandoning two hammerheads.
How many times until tristans insta a hel? |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
524
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:12:00 -
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so after being linked the EULA, the op keeps insisting he isnt doing anything wrong...
do we need to read it to you in smaller words or something? |
Steve Celeste
Overdogs
304
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:13:00 -
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Thanks for sharing, OP. |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
122
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:18:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I wonder what would happen if you had a chain of Gilas successively picking up and abandoning two hammerheads. How many times until tristans insta a hel? 124 according to my arbitrary random number generator... Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Garresh
Team Chicken and Waffles
328
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:30:00 -
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Dude why are you flipping out? You lost a couple frigates. Honestly hes a glitching jerk but cmon thats kind of hilarious. One death to something stupid shouldnt be cause for an epileptic fit. It should be something you laugh about. I mean youre gonna lose ships anyways, might as well be a good death. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |
Mag's
the united
17692
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:39:00 -
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Neesa Corrinne wrote:OP, all you will ever encounter on the official forums are hardcore white knights. CCP can do no wrong with the likes of them around. Rather than simply agree that this is bad and needs immediate, without hesitation, devs not going home until it's done, hot fixing, they will straw man you to death the EULA as if you couldn't simply re-post on reddit/mmorpg.com/anywherefuckingelse without repercussion. Whatever feeds them their insatiable, daddy-didn't-pay-me-enough-attention, worth of thumbs up tho. The only ones white knighting here, are the ones condoning rule breaking. Like you.
Congrats.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Grimwood
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
5
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:47:00 -
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What happened here was nonsense. And the person using the exploit should be handled accordingly ( blah blah blee blah) CCP ISD or the god damned CSM we voted for should get together and work to fix this issue, and take care of those responsible for taking advantage of the issue |
Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
210
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:48:00 -
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Garresh wrote:Dude why are you flipping out? You lost a couple frigates. Honestly hes a glitching jerk but cmon thats kind of hilarious. One death to something stupid shouldnt be cause for an epileptic fit. It should be something you laugh about. I mean youre gonna lose ships anyways, might as well be a good death.
So I should just self destruct my ship when I undock!
Please, reading comprehension. You fail. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23126
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:52:00 -
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Phaade wrote:So I should just self destruct my ship when I undock!
Please, reading comprehension. You fail. You're projecting again. Have you read up on the EULA and the forum rules yet? Or the banning policy? Or did you fail to read and comprehend them? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
243
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Posted - 2014.07.12 08:18:00 -
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Interesting. If abandoned drones retain bonuses from the ship that dropped them and keep them when used by a ship that doesnt have those bonusses... Yeah. Probably not as intended.
So if it's true, then I consider it an exploit.
Too bad it had to be this continuously butthurt guy pointing it out tho. |
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