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Skyneon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.12 10:35:00 -
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Hello everyone,
I'm sorry I know is some topic about that but i didn't find clear answer.
I want do combat site in lowsec with the ishtar, the higher DED (serpentis mostly i read it will be not so good against sansha and blood) i can (as i understand the maximun will be 7/10).
But my problen is i don't find what fitting will be really good enough for that so i made 3 fitting ( that my first time so please be gentle)
[ ishtar passive shield]EHP: 38941 Low Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Shield Power Relay II
Medium Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Amplifier II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I High Core Probe Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Prototype 'Poncho' Cloaking Device I Rigs Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
[Ishtar active armor] EHP: 10927 Low Domination Armor Thermic Hardener Medium Armor Repairer II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Medium Domination 10MN Microwarpdrive Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II High Drone Link Augmentor II Prototype 'Poncho' Cloaking Device I Sisters Core Probe Launcher Rigs Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
[Ishtar active shield] EHP: 13132 Low Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Power Diagnostic System II Medium Domination 10MN Microwarpdrive Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Domination EM Ward Field Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Drone Link Augmentor II Sisters Core Probe Launcher Prototype 'Poncho' Cloaking Device I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
So they all have more or less the same dps (around 748 with garde II and 800 with Geko and m) same speed .....
That why i really don't know what use what in real will be really good and where are my mistakes or misunderstood about this ship.
thankss for your anwers |
DontShootMe ImBlonde
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.12 11:04:00 -
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I use the following to good effect with serps upto 7/10 - dps is the most limiting factor for the later DEDs mostly.
[Ishtar, Active Shield - Serpentis] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II
Pith C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Cap Recharger II Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Pith C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Anode Ion Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Ion Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Ion Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Ion Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Wasp II x5 Warden II x5 Garde II x5
This turns in approx 900 dps, with an active tank vs serps of around 1000 hps, which is usually a massive overkill.
I tend not to have any issues with range on wardens and have not found a lot of use from omni's on the Ishtar.
Has plenty of grid/cpu left as well to mess about with (mobile depot and MWD/Cloak/probe etc). The thermal rig suffers from quite a bit of stacking as well,but accounts for about 100 hps despite that.
A straight replacement of the hardners to kinetic will make this fine to use right up to 10/10 gurrista as well.
Have fun :)
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Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.07.12 11:07:00 -
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I use a fit almost identical to hers except its MWD fit and stable, mail me in game and ill send it to you if you want, it cranks about 840 DPS with my skills and can run Mordus sites solo if i kite and land far enough off to avoid those horrible webs. I can imagine DED's will be no issues for it either although i havent personally ever done a DED, i make ISK elsewhere usually and let the corpies run those. Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Skyneon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.13 01:35:00 -
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First
thanks for your help your fitting are really impressive. I love them.
Just a little question the gun are really useful or it just in some situation ? |
DontShootMe ImBlonde
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.14 18:49:00 -
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The guns are pretty situational, but with a MWD, and some heavies, they can help take out the BS down more quickly for a change of pace.
Most often have a cloak and drone range mods in the highs and a civ shooter of some sort. |
Skyneon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.17 02:43:00 -
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DontShootMe ImBlonde wrote:The guns are pretty situational, but with a MWD, and some heavies, they can help take out the BS down more quickly for a change of pace.
Most often have a cloak and drone range mods in the highs and a civ shooter of some sort.
Thank you a lot for your help i really love your fitting.
Fly safe |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:52:00 -
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One major factor in picking a fit for lowsec combat sites is how hard you are to probe down. This is much more true running escalations, but also applies in combat sites as many predators will enter a system, have no idea you are in a combat site and will start probing for you.
Your signature radius, divided by your signal strength is a measure of how hard you are to probe down. Higher is worse.
A lot of shield modules increase sigrad signficantly at all times. In addition, a microwarpdrive increases sigrad but only when turned on. As a consequence, I do not like shield Ishtar fits much, and also will not turn a microwarpdrive on unless there are no combat scanner probes within a 14AU D-scan (unless using the MWD is to save my ship).
For this reason, I personally use active armor fitted Ishtars for any lowsec PVE I find myself doing. I still use a microwarpdrive.
That said, active shield tanks have smaller sigrad penalties than passive, and so can work, and while passive shield tanks make you easier for hostile players to find, that does not stop them working well for many players. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Opertone
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.17 08:14:00 -
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this is strange...
Hostiles come in large groups, usually 1 as a bait, then another 12 jump in all sorts of massive Hitpoints massive DPS battlecruisers.
Gankers bring too many ships, it is always a trap. They also like to sweet talk you into some stupid ****. Like "Hello friend, how are the rats here? Are you doing complexes? Do you think you need help?"
It is a distraction, you may get a dozen hostile targets in system before you can blink if you engage in any conversation.
Then they encourage you to initiate aggression or simply engage in combat, so that you can not run, jump or dock.
Your only chance to escape is to stay aligned at all times, use fast moving ECM drones on any ship that tries to scram you.
Worst case is when they already sleep in the complex, then log on and appear out of nowhere. This is worst kind of trap, there is no escape. Click warp to and pray... also try and fit stabs |
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