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Lvlien
The Murloc Miners
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Posted - 2014.07.14 07:56:00 -
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Im trying to max out my yield on my hulk according to my fitting screen it says i have a yield of 1228 accourding to EFT it says 1081 but if i use the premade all max pilot it says tield should be at 1892.
Mining 5 (+25% to yield HULK). Astrogeology 5 (+25% to yield HULK). Mining Barge 5 (+15% to yield HULK). Exhumer 5 (+15% to yield HULK). ORE PROCESSING 4 (16,17% to yield T2 CYRYSTALS). Mining Laser Upgrades 5 (+9% to yield MLU). Drone Interfacing 5 (+100% to yield DRONES). Mining Drone Operation 5 (+25% to yield DRONES).
Have Highwall 5% implant do not have micha
I also have a maxed out orca boost, but i wanna know my yield without
Fitting High Modulated strip miner II - T2 Crystals x3
mid slot small shield booster II Cap Recharger II Adaptive Invulnerability field I Survay Scanner II
low Mining Laser upgrade IIx2
rig slot Medium Processor overclocking unit I Medium Ancillary Current router I
In the end please help what am i missing |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:01:00 -
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ummh ....
wrong forum - try ships and modules if you want a helpful answer
Expect most answers here to be along the lines of "tank your mining barge or die" or maybe "now we know you fly untanked we will be looking for you" . |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:01:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:ummh .... wrong forum - try ships and modules if you want a helpful answer Expect most answers here to be along the lines of "tank your mining barge or die" or maybe "now we know you fly untanked we will be looking for you" .
And also "watchlisted". "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:14:00 -
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Lvlien wrote:
In the end please help what am i missing
Your tank. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Lvlien
The Murloc Miners
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:14:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:ummh .... wrong forum - try ships and modules if you want a helpful answer Expect most answers here to be along the lines of "tank your mining barge or die" or maybe "now we know you fly untanked we will be looking for you" .
thats why im here to get the advice, i stopped playing cause i got bored with mining its just gottin redundent |
Authorised Permit Seller
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:17:00 -
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Please remember, the best tank for a miner is a permit tank.
Talk to me today about buying yours. |
Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:17:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:ummh .... wrong forum - try ships and modules if you want a helpful answer Expect most answers here to be along the lines of "tank your mining barge or die" or maybe "now we know you fly untanked we will be looking for you" . And also "watchlisted".
Nah. Far too obvious trap. OP's character is 5 years old, he wouldn't be that stupid.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3890
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:20:00 -
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Lvlien wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:ummh .... wrong forum - try ships and modules if you want a helpful answer Expect most answers here to be along the lines of "tank your mining barge or die" or maybe "now we know you fly untanked we will be looking for you" . thats why im here to get the advice, i stopped playing cause i got bored with mining its just gottin redundent
Then why are you trying to get advice about mining instead of trying to find something else less boring to do? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Grunanca
Doughboys Overload Everything
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:32:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Lvlien wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:ummh .... wrong forum - try ships and modules if you want a helpful answer Expect most answers here to be along the lines of "tank your mining barge or die" or maybe "now we know you fly untanked we will be looking for you" . thats why im here to get the advice, i stopped playing cause i got bored with mining its just gottin redundent Then why are you trying to get advice about mining instead of trying to find something else less boring to do?
Insanity... Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. Mining is something you do on your second screen or in the backgroubnd, while playing something else/doing something else. This is why you dont want max yield, but max tank. |
Lvlien
The Murloc Miners
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:33:00 -
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Then why are you trying to get advice about mining instead of trying to find something else less boring to do?[/quote]
Was seeing if there was a way to make it a little more entertaining but from what ive gathered its not so maybe ill move to solitude and do pvp |
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Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:37:00 -
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Lvlien wrote:
Was seeing if there was a way to make it a little more entertaining but from what ive gathered its not so maybe ill move to solitude and do pvp
In that case, I would advise finding someone who can show you the ropes of PVP first, someone who is encouraging rather than belittling, before you go jumping balls-deep into PVP, if you've done nothing but mine previously. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:42:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Lvlien wrote:
Was seeing if there was a way to make it a little more entertaining but from what ive gathered its not so maybe ill move to solitude and do pvp
In that case, I would advise finding someone who can show you the ropes of PVP first, someone who is encouraging rather than belittling, before you go jumping balls-deep into PVP, if you've done nothing but mine previously.
C*mon, it's basically the same thing. Lock up the target, activate tank, activate scanner (ewar), start mining the target with lazers, get killed 8 seconds later. |
Lvlien
The Murloc Miners
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:42:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Lvlien wrote:
Was seeing if there was a way to make it a little more entertaining but from what ive gathered its not so maybe ill move to solitude and do pvp
In that case, I would advise finding someone who can show you the ropes of PVP first, someone who is encouraging rather than belittling, before you go jumping balls-deep into PVP, if you've done nothing but mine previously.
i had a couple friends that have been playing for a while i may take them up on it |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
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Posted - 2014.07.14 08:58:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Lvlien wrote:
Was seeing if there was a way to make it a little more entertaining but from what ive gathered its not so maybe ill move to solitude and do pvp
In that case, I would advise finding someone who can show you the ropes of PVP first, someone who is encouraging rather than belittling, before you go jumping balls-deep into PVP, if you've done nothing but mine previously. C*mon, it's basically the same thing. Lock up the target, activate tank, activate scanner (ewar), start mining the target with lazers, get killed 8 seconds later.
Heh, sometimes that's quite true, but not always. Some fights can be quite multi-tasking intensive, especially when you're up against bad odds. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:07:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Ships & Modules. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1942
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:56:00 -
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Where exactly are you mining? EVE needs more Pssshhhh |
Celgar Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2014.07.14 11:20:00 -
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Lvlien wrote:Im trying to max out my yield on my hulk according to my fitting screen it says i have a yield of 1228 accourding to EFT it says 1081 but if i use the premade all max pilot it says tield should be at 1892.
Mining 5 (+25% to yield HULK). Astrogeology 5 (+25% to yield HULK). Mining Barge 5 (+15% to yield HULK). Exhumer 5 (+15% to yield HULK). ORE PROCESSING 4 (16,17% to yield T2 CYRYSTALS). Mining Laser Upgrades 5 (+9% to yield MLU). Drone Interfacing 5 (+100% to yield DRONES). Mining Drone Operation 5 (+25% to yield DRONES).
Have Highwall 5% implant do not have micha
I also have a maxed out orca boost, but i wanna know my yield without
Fitting High Modulated strip miner II - T2 Crystals x3
mid slot small shield booster II Cap Recharger II Adaptive Invulnerability field I Survay Scanner II
low Mining Laser upgrade IIx2
rig slot Medium Processor overclocking unit I Medium Ancillary Current router I
In the end please help what am i missing
I will give you a serious answer. Not long ago you could buy a Hulk for less than 230 million. The price is now rapidly approaching 300 million ISK so you need to fit it properly or not at all.
The short answer is that the rigs you have fitted mean you have not trained up your ancillary skills for CPU, PG, rigs, and usage bonuses for CPU. I'm not going to list them for you. Whatever you fly you need most of those skills to level V really.
The long answer is you shouldn't be fitting your ship for maximum yield but for the best yield you can get with the best tank possible as well. Therefore don't bother trying to figure out what is the maximum yield. In additional to the following ship fit you should be using D-scan, choosing good location/s, and gathering local intel. If you choose to mine in 'CODE' space then it may be wise to purchase a ship permit.
*Disclaimer - I have no connection with CODE agents and purely state what would be most logical to do.*
The following ship fitting is what you should be using :
Modulated Strip Miner II Modulated Strip Miner II Modulated Strip Miner II T2 Mining Crystals.
Survey Scanner II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II
Damage Control II Mining Laser Upgrade II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Mining Drone II x5 T2 Small Drones x5. (To suit NPC rats eg Warrior II for Angel Cartel etc.)
Modules to repair shields or improve shield recharge & rigs to improve shield recharge should NEVER be fitted.
This fitting with full Orca support with a Shield Harmonizing link will give you over 21,000 EHP and Thermic & Kinetic resistances over 85%. Dependent on system sec status it will survive a single T2 Catalyst suicide gank. In terms of ship defence and not gimping your yield this is the best available fitting.
If you can't fly this leave your Hulk in dock and fly something else.
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:43:00 -
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Lvlien wrote:{Snip} Drone Interfacing 5 (+100% to yield DRONES). {Snip} In the end please help what am i missing This may be a part of your disparity - Drone Interfacing was modified to in Kronos to provide only a 50% boost; the difference in combat drone damage...etc. was made up by increasing the base drone stats but it's quite possible (likely) that mining drones were missed and therefore that your drone yield is only 75% of what you might expect.
The difference between your yield and your [All Level V] yield in EFT is a concern however, I cannot see what might make such a difference. I would suggest updating the API in the character editor just to confirm that all of your skills are listed (perhaps you have an older version of yourself loaded). I'm not sure how the fitting screen lists yield but EFT lists /minute IIRC - perhaps the units are an explanation of the difference between the two.
I would suggest more meat to your fit but that's a choice you have to make for yourself based on when and where you mine. |
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:26:00 -
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Do you have the latest version of EFT?
are you looking at m3 per minute or m3 per strip per cycle? |
Lvlien
The Murloc Miners
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Posted - 2014.07.14 20:58:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Where exactly are you mining?
Bika |
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Lvlien
The Murloc Miners
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:04:00 -
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Aerie Evingod wrote:Do you have the latest version of EFT?
are you looking at m3 per minute or m3 per strip per cycle?
m3 per minute actually i never tought of cursing over it i assumed it was per rotation
and i have 2 versions 2.23.1 aloows me to use api imports version 2.9.1 does not |
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
71
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:08:00 -
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Remember the stats in the mining manual were before the overhaul to mining the Hulk now is down to 82 sec cycles but lower yield then it use to have per cycle that is the cause for you not getting to the stated stats. The manual is out of date.
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Anize Oramara
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
190
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:08:00 -
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Lvlien wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Where exactly are you mining? Bika Please let us know when you get ganked. |
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:20:00 -
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Lvlien wrote:Aerie Evingod wrote:Do you have the latest version of EFT?
are you looking at m3 per minute or m3 per strip per cycle? m3 per minute actually i never tought of cursing over it i assumed it was per rotation and i have 2 versions 2.23.1 aloows me to use api imports version 2.9.1 does not
So all the numbers in your op are m3 a minute or per cycle? |
Lvlien
The Murloc Miners
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:48:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Lvlien wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Where exactly are you mining? Bika Please let us know when you get ganked.
shouldve seen that coming, i need to realize this isnt cod i need be carefull who i trust |
Authorised Permit Seller
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2014.07.18 20:32:00 -
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Bika huh, I shall pop by with the paperwork tomorrow for your mining permit! |
Goldensaver
Lom Corporation Brothers of Tangra
406
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Posted - 2014.07.18 21:38:00 -
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I still don't see why people are making such a big fuss about tank. You get caught in a Hulk you're dead, tank or not. Even a lone Interceptor will burn through most of your tank before your backup arrives. Might as well do your best to make it painless. You get pointed, eject and try to get your pod safe before the bubblers land.
Even if you're not in Null, there's no point in fitting tank. If you're not warping off by the time you're locked, you're already dead. They won't bring less than needed, but at the price of the Hulk they'll gladly bring more.
Now, if you're in a Skiff on the other hand... Well then. That's another case entirely. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1024
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Posted - 2014.07.20 03:31:00 -
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Authorised Permit Seller wrote:Please remember, the best tank for a miner is a permit tank.
Talk to me today about buying yours. Yes because this means New order won't gank you. Now to every other ganker you're tears waiting to be extracted. |
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