Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Sodabro
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
726
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 14:04:00 -
[31] - Quote
good. |
Serene Repose
1440
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 14:26:00 -
[32] - Quote
Tippia wrote:...Also, if people stop playing, they don't sell their characters GÇö after all, what would be the point? Tippia. Tippia. When will you ever learn? If you keep bringing up facts and logic you leave no room for panic and hysteria!
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2550
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 14:30:00 -
[33] - Quote
Sexy Cakes wrote:Tippia wrote:Also, if people stop playing, they don't sell their characters GÇö after all, what would be the point? To get ISK to plex their main? I pretty much quit playing since about 6 weeks ago and have been thinking of selling an alt so I don't have to log on and bore myself to death grinding out a plex.
So you've gone from playing Eve Online to Skill Queue Online. A worthy choice! There are many advatages over Eve, most notably that no one involved in the managing of skill queues will ever suicide gank your skill queue. You will never suffer the ignominy of having your latest loss mail called out as an ALOD on the Mittani.com, nor will you ever need to have jump fuel for your skill queue. Industrial Changes coming in Crius? Pffft - whatever. PL hotdrops another cruiser gang in low sec with 500 gazillion Titans? No worry for you.
Keep on skilling you mighty skiller you. MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
443
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 15:25:00 -
[34] - Quote
Anthar Thebess wrote:For a very long time i didn't see so many 100mln + sp characters sold like now each week. Market is just flooded in them, and you can easily buy a 50-80mln sp char way below the price , especially when you calculate : 1 plex = 1.5mln sp = 800mln ISK
I wonder why : - people stop playing - people reduce their character number because of the plex prices.
Is this next sign about bad health of EVE online?
People are leaving EVE basically. Number of active logons have been steadily dropping since last year. Here is graph, draw youw own conclusions. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
CCP not doing enough to revive EVE and make it interesting for newer players. They prefer to stew in their own sause, rehashing same old concepts with new graphics.
If hey introduced a PvP arena, would be step in the right direction. But, whatever. Their future on the line, not mine. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7206
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 15:39:00 -
[35] - Quote
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:For a very long time i didn't see so many 100mln + sp characters sold like now each week. Market is just flooded in them, and you can easily buy a 50-80mln sp char way below the price , especially when you calculate : 1 plex = 1.5mln sp = 800mln ISK
I wonder why : - people stop playing - people reduce their character number because of the plex prices.
Is this next sign about bad health of EVE online?
People are leaving EVE basically. Number of active logons have been steadily dropping since last year. Here is graph, draw youw own conclusions. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquilityCCP not doing enough to revive EVE and make it interesting for newer players. They prefer to stew in their own sause, rehashing same old concepts with new graphics. If hey introduced a PvP arena, would be step in the right direction. But, whatever. Their future on the line, not mine.
Translation: "CCP could save EVE by making it not EVE with some instant gratification/honorable 1v1 set piece crap"
I'd honestly rather see EVE die defiant and whole than see it limp along as some neo-thempark monstrosity.
|
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2286
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 15:40:00 -
[36] - Quote
And so far on the all time graph it looks alot like about a third repeat of the same slump. Hard to tell if this one is significant yet. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
443
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 15:51:00 -
[37] - Quote
Derath Ellecon wrote:And so far on the all time graph it looks alot like about a third repeat of the same slump. Hard to tell if this one is significant yet.
Its significant. Every successive nadir of the "slump" is lower then the previous slump. Basically average number of logons is 25k, whereas last year it was 31k, and current level dropped to where EVE was in 2008.
All that growth since 2008 - poof. Gone. That is a horrendous statistic.
And drastic circumstances require drastic actions. Too bad CCP doesn't see it. Oh well. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23149
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 15:52:00 -
[38] - Quote
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:People are leaving EVE basically. Number of active logons have been steadily dropping since last year. Actually, they haven't. They have gone up and down GÇö the major drop happened back in May/early June. Right now, they're slowly recovering, having almost halved the drop compared to last year's numbers.
Quote:If hey introduced a PvP arena, would be step in the right direction. This already exists.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4090
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 15:53:00 -
[39] - Quote
It's only problematic if those characters don't find buyers anymore. As long as they are sold, people are playing. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2286
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 15:53:00 -
[40] - Quote
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:And so far on the all time graph it looks alot like about a third repeat of the same slump. Hard to tell if this one is significant yet. Its significant. Every successive nadir of the "slump" is lower then the previous slump. Basically average number of logons is 25k, whereas last year it was 31k, and current level dropped to where EVE was in 2008. All that growth since 2008 - poof. Gone. That is a horrendous statistic. And drastic circumstances require drastic actions. Too bad CCP doesn't see it. Oh well.
If you say so. I guess I should just quit now. Shame cause I'm still enjoying this game. |
|
Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical Ineluctable.
411
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:02:00 -
[41] - Quote
Val'Dore wrote:PLEX prices are about as much CCP's call as character bazaar rates are.
CCP could effect change in plex prices very very easily. All they would have to do is have a plex sale which is more than 5-10% off..
Theyve already started putting on the launcher a plex rates are high sign with a link to the buy plex page. Although thats probably not enough. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23150
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:06:00 -
[42] - Quote
Icarus Able wrote:Theyve already started putting on the launcher a plex rates are high sign with a link to the buy plex page. Although thats probably not enough. Not just probably, but very very likely. Even a brief glance at the PLEX market history will show that there's pretty much nothing to suggest that higher PLEX (ISK) prices leads to more (RL) PLEX purchases. Reminding people of that high price won't make much of difference if/since the price (obviously) isn't enough to draw in customers. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Steve Celeste
Overdogs
308
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:10:00 -
[43] - Quote
100m+ chars with good names are still extremely rare. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
960
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:14:00 -
[44] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Icarus Able wrote:Theyve already started putting on the launcher a plex rates are high sign with a link to the buy plex page. Although thats probably not enough. Not just probably, but very very likely. Even a brief glance at the PLEX market history will show that there's pretty much nothing to suggest that higher PLEX (ISK) prices leads to more (RL) PLEX purchases. Reminding people of that high price won't make much of difference if/since the price (obviously) isn't enough to draw in customers.
Aside from which, the issue is not how many PLEX are sold, it is how many make it to the market. There is some indication that a lot of the PLEX sold in cheap sales are just stockpiled as investments. |
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
434
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:16:00 -
[45] - Quote
Steve Celeste wrote:100m+ chars with good names are still extremely rare.
Any Skill Point amount character on the Bazaar with a good name is rare. So many stupid names, no wonder they are trying to get rid of the characters. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
960
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:23:00 -
[46] - Quote
Kyt Thrace wrote:Steve Celeste wrote:100m+ chars with good names are still extremely rare. Any Skill Point amount character on the Bazaar with a good name is rare. So many stupid names, no wonder they are trying to get rid of the characters.
You should try buying a shelf company, especially in Asia. |
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
291
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:48:00 -
[47] - Quote
Didn't Hypocrit Spirit say she leaves? Oh she did, iirc.
She's still here! Wow, who would have thought! It's funny how she changed her mains portrait,-ábecause all her alts look pretty much like her. Took her a long while to finally realize.-á(: -álol Phantomime.
|
Gridloader
Limitless Capabilities
5
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 16:48:00 -
[48] - Quote
There is no need to keep high skillpoint characters in this game... there is no benefit from this... except ISK from sale |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2595
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 17:35:00 -
[49] - Quote
Anthar Thebess wrote:Sexy Cakes wrote:Tippia wrote:Also, if people stop playing, they don't sell their characters GÇö after all, what would be the point? To get ISK to plex their main? I pretty much quit playing since about 6 weeks ago and have been thinking of selling an alt so I don't have to log on and bore myself to death grinding out a plex. Why did you quit playing, and why are you still plexing your main?
EVE Online: Skillqueue This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2030
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 17:51:00 -
[50] - Quote
Naw... all those 100m SP toons just don't have a reason to undock their SCaps anymore... might as well go play WoW.
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
|
|
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
760
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 17:57:00 -
[51] - Quote
Anthar Thebess wrote:Sexy Cakes wrote:Tippia wrote:Also, if people stop playing, they don't sell their characters GÇö after all, what would be the point? To get ISK to plex their main? I pretty much quit playing since about 6 weeks ago and have been thinking of selling an alt so I don't have to log on and bore myself to death grinding out a plex. Why did you quit playing, and why are you still plexing your main?
Because I just bought PAYDAY 2 and I'm playing it non-stop.
I usually wander back to EVE when there's nothing else to play and get back into it, or when CCP releases some content...
3-4 months of EVE Offline does a character good. Not today spaghetti. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1022
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 19:43:00 -
[52] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:"hurr durr eve is dying"
Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank. People train them for 5 years just sell them?
Interesting theory. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
|
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
635
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 19:59:00 -
[53] - Quote
Nexus Day wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:"hurr durr eve is dying"
Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank. People train them for 5 years just sell them? Interesting theory.
It also supports High plex price theory.
If you are skilling 3 characters from the same account and burning 3 Plex in the process, mostly to sell and enough people are doing it, you create loop inflation on both. |
Carmen Electra
592
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 20:09:00 -
[54] - Quote
There is such a surplus of characters right now that you take a pretty hefty loss on characters if you just calculate based on PLEX price. Oh, and the transfer fee too. |
Marsha Mallow
1309
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 20:26:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ocih wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:"hurr durr eve is dying"
Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank. People train them for 5 years just sell them? Interesting theory. It also supports High plex price theory. If you are skilling 3 characters from the same account and burning 3 Plex in the process, mostly to sell and enough people are doing it, you create loop inflation on both. People don't train alts for 5 years purely to sell. Despite inflation, most characters in the 90-150m range sell for 30-60b (top prices being rare). It's a terrible ROI, and I'm pretty sure that "interesting theory" remark was sarcastic (but misdirected since Remiel was probably talking about low sp alts anyway).
I know cartweeling up and down yodelling hysterically is a hobby for some, but there's really no need to panic over seeing slightly higher than normal numbers of high SP characters listed. Character trading is a cyclical market, with a number of active traders, as well as demand peaks/dips. If they start selling for ridiculously low prices I still wouldn't bat an eye as traders will just snap them up and sit on them until demand increases.
It's possible people have used MCT to buff unfinished/redundant alts and sell them off, or to consolidate their accounts. Downsizing in response to higher plex prices doesn't reinforce the sub/PCU drop argument. The original player isn't necessarily quiting, and the character remains in circulation. Selling alts whilst plex prices are high to try jack up the price isn't an unreasonable strategy. It's not a doomsday scenario and it's happened several times in the last couple of years (particularly after B-R).
Anyone using MCT to train 3 characters at once to sell focused low sp alts is doing it wrong, and probably losing ISK. I'm hoping you can work out why. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Carmen Electra
602
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 20:31:00 -
[56] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:stuff
5b for ur toon
eve is dying |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
635
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 20:45:00 -
[57] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:Ocih wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:"hurr durr eve is dying"
Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank. People train them for 5 years just sell them? Interesting theory. It also supports High plex price theory. If you are skilling 3 characters from the same account and burning 3 Plex in the process, mostly to sell and enough people are doing it, you create loop inflation on both. People don't train alts for 5 years purely to sell. Despite inflation, most characters in the 90-150m range sell for 30-60b (top prices being rare). It's a terrible ROI, and I'm pretty sure that "interesting theory" remark was sarcastic (but misdirected since Remiel was probably talking about low sp alts anyway). I know cartweeling up and down yodelling hysterically is a hobby for some, but there's really no need to panic over seeing slightly higher than normal numbers of high SP characters listed. Character trading is a cyclical market, with a number of active traders, as well as demand peaks/dips. If they start selling for ridiculously low prices I still wouldn't bat an eye as traders will just snap them up and sit on them until demand increases. It's possible people have used MCT to buff unfinished/redundant alts and sell them off, or to consolidate their accounts. Downsizing in response to higher plex prices doesn't reinforce the sub/PCU drop argument. The original player isn't necessarily quiting, and the character remains in circulation. Selling alts whilst plex prices are high to try jack up the price isn't an unreasonable strategy. It's not a doomsday scenario and it's happened several times in the last couple of years (particularly after B-R). Anyone using MCT to train 3 characters at once to sell focused low sp alts is doing it wrong, and probably losing ISK. I'm hoping you can work out why.
"cartweeling up and down yodelling hysterically". is what almost everything gets spun in to. Most people are just replying to threads and not doing sabbaticals at a monastery to ponder the deep meaning of their every reply.
As for understanding why people do things in EVE? I don't even try. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
2624
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 20:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
Carmen Electra wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:stuff 5b for ur toon 5.5b Belgian chocolates b/o .. when everything else is gone .. |
Carmen Electra
608
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 21:13:00 -
[59] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:stuff 5b for ur toon 5.5b Belgian chocolates b/o
7b for Sibyyl eve is dying |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1237
|
Posted - 2014.07.14 21:18:00 -
[60] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:misdirected
cartwheeling
yodelling hysterically
cyclical
peaks/dips
wouldn't bat an eye
snap them up
whilst
jack up The amount of pure English language win is staggering. EVE-O, free English lessons for non-native speakers!
Though my favourite Marsha Mallow word is 'cavorting'. 'Cartwheeling' is now a close second. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |