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elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 12:29:00 -
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Having recently returned to eve after a long break, i had decided to use alts to mine ice while semi afk. the usual suicide gank/ extortion attempt was fully expected but i figured this would give me a chance to dust off my guns.. to my joy said suicide ganker is associated with Marmite Collective, who some time ago where hired by our old industrial corp to help out with a wardec.
Since on this occasion our `hired guns` never showed up (despite being paid and joining the wardec) i was joyous that i would finally find out what they are made of..
Especially as an ex merc myself i know what i was expecting and sadly their effort (or lack of it) simply doesn`t cut it, possibly the most risk adverse pvp alliance i have come across! they seldom leave the docking ring unless they have overwhelming odds (even then they are paranoid you are bait if you engage them and unlikley to agress back).. other than to gank haulers in niarja of course.
Bottom line is a good merc corp will find you, not have to be hunted and pry`ed out of stations by a 1 man corp, the target should be under 23/7 pressure.
Having asked around, checked killboards etc..it seems i`m not the only person they have not bothered to turn up for. as i see it the mercenary trade is based upon the clients trust and the mercenaries honour and this outfit are more suited to high sec grief and scams than being mercs.
Unless you target has an exceptionally low boredom threshold and will quit the game after a week of watching them hugging station I`d spend my isk elsewhere.. |
Fybs
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:15:00 -
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Well well as if you actually came and did it
We had this convo yesterday mate and you could not prove you was ever a client to marmite. even worse you got confused with your own story saying we joined a Dec and didn't show but when linking the "supposed" client corp there was no marmite on any of the 3 wars.
every client of ours gets a special receipt with our contracts.
please mail me the receipt to prove your not just an unhappy current war target of ours who is stuck in amarr. (which btw makes another client very happy) |
elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:22:00 -
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stuck in amarr? lol funny guy |
Morukk Nuamzzar
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:48:00 -
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elven serpent wrote:the most risk adverse pvp alliance i have come across! they seldom leave the docking ring unless they have overwhelming odds (even then they are paranoid you are bait if you engage them and unlikley to agress back).. other than to gank haulers in niarja of course.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echolalia |
ArmyOfMe
Blapnetar
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:55:00 -
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Have had war dec's from marmite plenty of times in the past. But they never show up to get fights, so calling themselfs merc's is a bit far fetched, unless as mercs you count camping the tradehub lanes. QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:05:00 -
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Look, when hiring a merc group, you must match the group with your need.
For example, if I want to limit am Indy corps access to a trade hub, hurt their haulers or force those out of corp, or hire a general nuisance corp to harass my target, Marmite works. They do those jobs well, it's their specialty.
If I needed to clear a dead POS in high sec, I would contact RvB to see if they still offer this service. They have ample muscle to do this quickly and enjoy the occasional change of pace. Marmite, not so much, not because they couldn't. They certainly can, but because pulling them away from the comfort zone of their specialty may lead to less than optimal results. I'm not saying it won't get done, I'm just saying others may do it faster because their focus is POS bashing or they are a generally bloodthirsty lot who have the members to do the job very quickly.
If i want to destroy a corp from the inside or just get it to disband, I would hire someone like... Ugh can't remember the name, but he has that dashing avatar that looks like a cross between Han solo and Richard Branson.
So basically, do your own research and find the right merc for your job. Don't just hire X because they are big, bothered you hegore, or have a post in C&P. Find the right merc for your job. |
elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:25:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Look, when hiring a merc group, you must match the group with your need.
For example, if I want to limit am Indy corps access to a trade hub, hurt their haulers or force those out of corp, or hire a general nuisance corp to harass my target, Marmite works. They do those jobs well, it's their specialty.
If I needed to clear a dead POS in high sec, I would contact RvB to see if they still offer this service. They have ample muscle to do this quickly and enjoy the occasional change of pace. Marmite, not so much, not because they couldn't. They certainly can, but because pulling them away from the comfort zone of their specialty may lead to less than optimal results. I'm not saying it won't get done, I'm just saying others may do it faster because their focus is POS bashing or they are a generally bloodthirsty lot who have the members to do the job very quickly.
If i want to destroy a corp from the inside or just get it to disband, I would hire someone like... Ugh can't remember the name, but he has that dashing avatar that looks like a cross between Han solo and Richard Branson.
So basically, do your own research and find the right merc for your job. Don't just hire X because they are big, bothered you hegore, or have a post in C&P. Find the right merc for your job.
I`m still trying to figure out what role they would fulfill? as far as i know `lame` inst a valid pvp tactic? - especially not 1 i would pay 850m isk a week for...
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:31:00 -
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Don't hire Marmite Collective for anything more complex then shooting ships on a trade hub's undock. To call them mercenaries would be too much credit for a group of overpaid hisec vandals. |
Mortlake
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:42:00 -
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elven serpent wrote:the most risk adverse pvp alliance i have come across! they seldom leave the docking ring unless they have overwhelming odds (even then they are paranoid you are bait if you engage them and unlikley to agress back).. other than to gank haulers in niarja of course.
Odd, you remained docked all the time I was waiting outside station in Bei for you this morning. Afk?
I'd also get a different set of eyes if I were you. Having one with virtually the same name as your CEO is a bit of a giveaway.
Further protips available upon request. |
elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:47:00 -
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Mortlake wrote:elven serpent wrote:the most risk adverse pvp alliance i have come across! they seldom leave the docking ring unless they have overwhelming odds (even then they are paranoid you are bait if you engage them and unlikley to agress back).. other than to gank haulers in niarja of course. Odd, you remained docked all the time I was waiting outside station in Bei for you this morning. Afk? I'd also get a different set of eyes if I were you. Having one with virtually the same name as your CEO is a bit of a giveaway. Further protips available upon request. Maybe you should ask yourself why i was in bei.. looking for you.. when you are supposed to be looking for me? and i was watching station right till the part where you logged. I rest my case.. Well at least you finnaly ran some intel on me.. the most obvious intel ever. U must have Sherlock Holmes as your intel officer or something.. |
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Mortlake
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:53:00 -
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elven serpent wrote:Mortlake wrote:elven serpent wrote:the most risk adverse pvp alliance i have come across! they seldom leave the docking ring unless they have overwhelming odds (even then they are paranoid you are bait if you engage them and unlikley to agress back).. other than to gank haulers in niarja of course. Odd, you remained docked all the time I was waiting outside station in Bei for you this morning. Afk? I'd also get a different set of eyes if I were you. Having one with virtually the same name as your CEO is a bit of a giveaway. Further protips available upon request. Maybe you should ask yourself why i was in bei.. looking for you.. when you are supposed to be looking for me? and i was watching station right till the part where you logged. I rest my case.. Well at least you finnaly ran some intel on me.. the most obvious intel ever. U must have Sherlock Holmes as your intel officer or something..
Yes, of course you were, replete with obvious scout in-system and a broken overview.
You're not impressing me, at all. |
elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:57:00 -
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Mortlake wrote:elven serpent wrote:Mortlake wrote:elven serpent wrote:the most risk adverse pvp alliance i have come across! they seldom leave the docking ring unless they have overwhelming odds (even then they are paranoid you are bait if you engage them and unlikley to agress back).. other than to gank haulers in niarja of course. Odd, you remained docked all the time I was waiting outside station in Bei for you this morning. Afk? I'd also get a different set of eyes if I were you. Having one with virtually the same name as your CEO is a bit of a giveaway. Further protips available upon request. Maybe you should ask yourself why i was in bei.. looking for you.. when you are supposed to be looking for me? and i was watching station right till the part where you logged. I rest my case.. Well at least you finnaly ran some intel on me.. the most obvious intel ever. U must have Sherlock Holmes as your intel officer or something.. Yes, of course you were, replete with obvious scout in-system and a broken overview. You're not impressing me, at all. oblivious to the wt in system then? thought so.. ps. your tears make me happy. |
Istyn
Freight Club
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:09:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote: If i want to destroy a corp from the inside or just get it to disband, I would hire someone like... Ugh can't remember the name, but he has that dashing avatar that looks like a cross between Han solo and Richard Branson.
https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Cannibal%20Kane |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3659
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:46:00 -
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Sounds like typical Marmite. If they wardec you, you only generally need to worry about trade hubs and the occasional pipe system, and even then, a couple of combat capable ships and they scatter pretty quickly. To be fair though, before hiring them you should have checked about. It's not a secret that they are the joke of the merc world. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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NightmareX
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:13:00 -
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LOL, the tears in this topic is just om nom nom nom. Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos.
Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama (31.10.2013): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=291945 Rebirth 4: http://tinyurl.com/ktfyalo |
Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:23:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
If i want to destroy a corp from the inside or just get it to disband, I would hire someone like... Ugh can't remember the name, but he has that dashing avatar that looks like a cross between Han solo and Richard Branson.
I had a tingling feeling that somebody was talking about me.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |
elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:30:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:LOL, the tears in this topic is just om nom nom nom. correct me if i`m wrong.. but that video looks like a bunch of guys in t3`s whoring kills in a fw fight? lol
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NightmareX
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:37:00 -
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elven serpent wrote:NightmareX wrote:LOL, the tears in this topic is just om nom nom nom. correct me if i`m wrong.. but that video looks like a bunch of guys in t3`s whoring kills in a fw fight? lol Ey yo, what video are you talking about?
I'll guess you are talking about the Tama fight. Nah, we had about 22 battleships, 3 carriers, 20-22 T3's and some other small ***** in that fight Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos.
Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama (31.10.2013): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=291945 Rebirth 4: http://tinyurl.com/ktfyalo |
Docking Station
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:07:00 -
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I am Elven Serpent's old friend from the industrial alliance. His entire story is fake. He hired Marmite Collective to kill his own industrial corp a year ago and then got kicked from the corp when they found out via his API key. They got a lot of kills, but we were lucky that the war ended after the first week. I had a chat with Elven last week and he told me he hired Marmite Collective to go to war with his current corp too. He said he only had to pay 100M for the allies thing and was pissed off, because they didn't ask more. His main thing was to make them look bad, but in stead they helped him big time. He told me he would make up a nice story anyway on the forums and it seems he did. Elven will never grow up. And no, we do not want you back in!!!!! |
Sol epoch
The Death Stalkers The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:32:00 -
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Docking Station wrote:I am Elven Serpent's old friend from the industrial alliance. His entire story is fake. He hired Marmite Collective to kill his own industrial corp a year ago and then got kicked from the corp when they found out via his API key. They got a lot of kills, but we were lucky that the war ended after the first week. I had a chat with Elven last week and he told me he hired Marmite Collective to go to war with his current corp too. He said he only had to pay 100M for the allies thing and was pissed off, because they didn't ask more. His main thing was to make them look bad, but in stead they helped him big time. He told me he would make up a nice story anyway on the forums and it seems he did. Elven will never grow up. And no, we do not want you back in!!!!!
And here we have the truth. People need to learn that lies have no legs!.
I am glad to see Lucas Kell hanging on to every word like a nodding dog but then being delusional comes with the territory. |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:46:00 -
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Sol epoch wrote:Docking Station wrote:I am Elven Serpent's old friend from the industrial alliance. His entire story is fake. He hired Marmite Collective to kill his own industrial corp a year ago and then got kicked from the corp when they found out via his API key. They got a lot of kills, but we were lucky that the war ended after the first week. I had a chat with Elven last week and he told me he hired Marmite Collective to go to war with his current corp too. He said he only had to pay 100M for the allies thing and was pissed off, because they didn't ask more. His main thing was to make them look bad, but in stead they helped him big time. He told me he would make up a nice story anyway on the forums and it seems he did. Elven will never grow up. And no, we do not want you back in!!!!! And here we have the truth. People need to learn that lies have no legs!. I am glad to see Lucas Kell hanging on to every word like a nodding dog but then being delusional comes with the territory. lol, yes, that 1 month old alt is clearly telling the truth. It's not at all a damage control marmite alt, right?
And I don't have to hang onto anything. It's a well known fact that marmite hub and pipe camp. I've even seen you guys advertising that fact. If he hired you to attack a corp outside of hubs, he clearly hired the wrong guys. You guys like to think of yourselves as the elite, but actions speak louder than words my friend. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Saeger1737
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
669
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:10:00 -
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And the award for most fail, overpriced, unorganized merc alliance in all of new eden goes to drum roll please: The marmite collective.
I wouldn't be shocked if CCP handed out this award this year at fanfest. |
NightmareX
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:14:00 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:And the award for most fail, overpriced, unorganized merc alliance in all of new eden goes to drum roll please: The marmite collective.
I wouldn't be shocked if CCP handed out this award this year at fanfest. Ahh, so just because you say so, it must be true, right?
Not even giving any evidences or good reasons to back up your claim with?
Sounds like a fail attempt to smear our name just because we are better than you. Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos.
Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama (31.10.2013): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=291945 Rebirth 4: http://tinyurl.com/ktfyalo |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:27:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:And the award for most fail, overpriced, unorganized merc alliance in all of new eden goes to drum roll please: The marmite collective.
I wouldn't be shocked if CCP handed out this award this year at fanfest. Ahh, so just because you say so, it must be true, right? Not even giving any evidences or good reasons to back up your claim with? Sounds like a fail attempt to smear our name just because we are better than you. You and your leaders do a pretty good job of smearing your own names. I know though, you are ex-rebirth, right? Where's your usual post about how amazing your boyfriend Kai is?
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3659
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:29:00 -
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lol, by the way, You might want to tell Tora to make it a little less obvious when he's damage controlling on his alts. Within 2 minutes of Docking Station making that claim, Tora posted this on the Marmite thread:Tora Bushido wrote:Lol, want us to kill your own corp mates again ?
Some pretty blatant damage control going on there. Damage control that wouldn't be needed if the claims were false. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Saeger1737
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:38:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:And the award for most fail, overpriced, unorganized merc alliance in all of new eden goes to drum roll please: The marmite collective.
I wouldn't be shocked if CCP handed out this award this year at fanfest. Ahh, so just because you say so, it must be true, right? Not even giving any evidences or good reasons to back up your claim with? Sounds like a fail attempt to smear our name just because we are better than you. There's a war report in my profile if you want to take a look, and I bet every other merc service marmite has fought nearly looks the same.
Simply stated I've been at war with marmots a number of times, their forces always turn tail and run, when there are more the 3 enemies coming at them. You might catch a straggler but in the end all they do is **** and moan in local about how you blobbed their fleet of 10 with a fleet of 5.
Case rested. |
elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:48:00 -
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Docking Station wrote:I am Elven Serpent's old friend from the industrial alliance. His entire story is fake. He hired Marmite Collective to kill his own industrial corp a year ago and then got kicked from the corp when they found out via his API key. They got a lot of kills, but we were lucky that the war ended after the first week. I had a chat with Elven last week and he told me he hired Marmite Collective to go to war with his current corp too. He said he only had to pay 100M for the allies thing and was pissed off, because they didn't ask more. His main thing was to make them look bad, but in stead they helped him big time. He told me he would make up a nice story anyway on the forums and it seems he did. Elven will never grow up. And no, we do not want you back in!!!!! lol fake alt posts are lame |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:50:00 -
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I'm pretty sure I'd be a worse merc than marmite. Want to find out? Contracts start at 200m. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
elven serpent
the unfortunate few
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:56:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:lol, by the way, You might want to tell Tora to make it a little less obvious when he's damage controlling on his alts. Within 2 minutes of Docking Station making that claim, Tora posted this on the Marmite thread: Tora Bushido wrote:Lol, want us to kill your own corp mates again ? Some pretty blatant damage control going on there. Damage control that wouldn't be needed if the claims were false. Or being unanimously corobarated by various independent players.. Selling your services as mercenaries is comparative to filling a jar with poop and calling it Marmite... leaves a bad taste in the mouth of whoever buys it.. |
Fybs
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:01:00 -
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elven serpent wrote:Docking Station wrote:I am Elven Serpent's old friend from the industrial alliance. His entire story is fake. He hired Marmite Collective to kill his own industrial corp a year ago and then got kicked from the corp when they found out via his API key. They got a lot of kills, but we were lucky that the war ended after the first week. I had a chat with Elven last week and he told me he hired Marmite Collective to go to war with his current corp too. He said he only had to pay 100M for the allies thing and was pissed off, because they didn't ask more. His main thing was to make them look bad, but in stead they helped him big time. He told me he would make up a nice story anyway on the forums and it seems he did. Elven will never grow up. And no, we do not want you back in!!!!! lol fake alt posts are lame
Lol fake client posts are lame |
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