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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:45:00 -
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Hi all,
Disclaimer: this is so alpha that it is a miracle when it runs without derping. And there is no manual.
TL;DR: it let's you create, edit and test your overview settings out of game.
Linky
Long version:
I always had problems with properly setting up my overview and I bet I am not alone. And as many other I imported overviews prepared by "those who can overview" and I just kind of customized them to my need but I was never sure if it really is working or not so when in doubt switch to "show all" tab and confirm that dude I am about to shoot is not my corpie (excluding times when shooting corpies is intended:)
So last weekend I had to setup my new account and once again I imported my "customized" overview but there was something not right so I started to fiddle with it and I got socket disconnected and I QQ, poured myself gin&tonic, smoke a cigarette and now I present to you Eve Online Overview Wizard.
How it works is kind of similar to in-game overview setting UI but I hope it's better :) UI consists of few main parts: - "Overview" tab with all profiles in overview file + additional node "UI & Brackets" for setting up column order and ship labels - "Demo" tab will simulate how different objects would show up on your interview according to filters/states/color tags/backgrounds - "Filters" tab contains all types of objects we can select + all states + ewar types. - "Appearance" tab is well, appearance: color tags and backgrounds for states of objects - "Test" tab is where you can add objects you want to test your overview settings with. Right now it works kind of like in-game overview so it doesn't say WHY your object doesn't show but this is a big feature on my list.
Ok, if you think this sounds like something you would find useful and you feel like helping me make it better please download it and give it a try. If you will see something is not working please post here or send me an eve-mail.
Especially I would love to hear about bugs in Demo tab - and I am sure there are derps in there because most of it is based on my understanding of how overview works and we already established that I am not the sharpest shiv on the block when it comes to this.
And yes, I know state lists are little moronic because you can set "at war with corp" and "in your corp" but I will work it out soon(-ish).
Ok, that's it from me. Please post if you think it is good, bad, ugly, stupid, GTFO, HTFU, Eve iz dying, etc. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 16:05:00 -
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cheers, willl give feedback when iv used it some "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Lord Zarcam
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:31:00 -
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"LINKY" not worky. Getting the following error:
This content cannot be displayed in a frame
To help protect the security of information you enter into this website, the publisher of this content does not allow it to be displayed in a frame.
What you can try:
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2151
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:05:00 -
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Linky works fine for me in chrome, IE and firefox. Eve Online Overview Wizard: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=358845&find=unread
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2151
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Posted - 2014.07.17 08:11:00 -
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I changed download link from google drive to dedicated website, hopefully that will fix whatever problems old link was causing. Eve Online Overview Wizard: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=358845&find=unread
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Taliah Meyhin
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Posted - 2014.07.17 12:13:00 -
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Nobody should use Google Drive. It hurts me to say that because their service is extremely user-friendly but the big con is that each time you upload something on their servers, you give them ownership of your files.
http://slapphappe.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/why-you-should-not-use-google-drive-read-the-eula-and-despair/ Please CCP, have a look at these ideas : Overview Filters // new Fleet UI
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2154
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Posted - 2014.07.17 12:17:00 -
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Oh I didn't know that, thanks for info.
That was only temporary solution because I really really wanted to just get my app out there for people to point and laugh at it. And now I had a moment to register domain and upload barebone index.html to server so we are all good :) Eve Online Overview Wizard: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=358845&find=unread
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:55:00 -
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downloaded and used i think it was sanswa overview anyways it thru a error at me which i wish i could duplicate but my laptop speaks french not me.
suggestion when you get it working is to have the ability to spit out a self install version so you can save it for your alliance to download the overview pack and install it. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2156
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Posted - 2014.07.17 15:09:00 -
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Hmm, I'm not sure if I understand it correctly: you got an error at start? Could you make a screenshot and send it to me by email or twitter? I can speak French a little :)
Also check if there is a text file named "Exception..." in directory where you have exe in, maybe that error happened in one of very few places where I catch exceptions and log them :)
As for your suggestion: right now you can save all overview settings to xml file and import them in-game (you need to put file in My Documents\EVE\Overview folder). It's the same way you import all already available overview packs prepared by community members. There is no possibility to make game client to import them automatically and even if I would implement something like this it would be considered a violation of EULA and I definitely don't plan to get a ban.
You can also save lists from Appearance tab so your friends could load them and create their own overviews using same colors for tags and backgrounds as you. And this is not something Eve allows you to do. Of course in-game you still have to organize those lists manually as usual but in wizard it can be prepared by one person and used by many to ensure uniformity. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
20
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Posted - 2014.07.18 10:22:00 -
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there is no error file and i made a minor edit for the updated version of sarahs overview pack when it thru the error |
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2173
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Posted - 2014.07.18 10:47:00 -
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So it was after making changes to loaded overview? Ok, I will take a look at it. Thanks for info.
Oh, be aware that current version doesn't read or save overview tabs settings so if you will load overview and save it whole tabs section will get removed. I really should add code that at least preserves this section but for now please ALWAYS test my tool with files you have backup for. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2178
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Posted - 2014.07.18 15:14:00 -
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I updated tool with handling of overview tabs so it should now be possible to save complete overview ready to be imported into Eve.
And there is also version number displayed in About box so if you gonna complain about anything use it as reference :) Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
20
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Posted - 2014.07.18 20:47:00 -
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Error...steps to recreate
overview test states of test object (select any of them)
http://pastebin.com/CJxBsnyU |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2187
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Posted - 2014.07.18 21:10:00 -
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Oh, you select states without any test object on the list? Hmm, should be blocked but apparently isn't. Thanks, I will take a look at it now. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
20
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Posted - 2014.07.18 23:20:00 -
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on the website under You can contact me by: might want to insert this forum thread :p
also just noticed a issue ... on Test Object if i click ship it does not select all ships and all options remain greyed out |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.07.19 06:33:00 -
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Right now you can add only single objects so you need to click on specific type not whole category (so Combat Battlecruisers not Ships, Mining Drone not Drones, etc.). But I guess adding whole groups makes sense too so I will put it on my list.
Yeah, link to this thread, it was too obvious :) Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.07.20 12:33:00 -
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Is there any chance at app like this could be run via a website? This way one would one could edit the xml file/Overview settings via the site or and then save to xml for use in game?
I have no idea if something like this is at all possible, just asking as I'm on a Mac and having a 'web app' might circumvent OS issues. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2200
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Posted - 2014.07.20 14:54:00 -
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I am windows dev and to be honest I don't like working in web environment. I do it when my work requires but even then I try to minimize my exposure to strict web stuff :) For this reason right now wizard is and will remain windows app, at least until I will finish implementation of all features I want it to have.
But technically speaking web version would of course be possible to implement. In fact there was website that allowed you to configure overview but as far as I know it's no longer accessible. Domain is for sale and page doesn't work anymore.
Depending on time and community feedback I might implement web version at some point but no promises, sorry :) Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Ms Forums
University of Caille Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:21:00 -
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Terrible interface and bugged to boot.
How Funny Did You Look? |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2603
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:47:00 -
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I'm surprised you managed to finish that sentence considering your perseverance in your own ideas. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Ms Forums
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:49:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:I'm surprised you managed to finish that sentence considering your perseverance in your own ideas. Be that as it may...my 8 year-old writes better code
How Funny Did You Look? |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2603
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:53:00 -
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Now you are hiding behind your child? Classy. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Ms Forums
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:13:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Now you are hiding behind your child? Classy. That doesn't make sense.
How Funny Did You Look? |
Darkblad
Hilfe is like Free Entertainment
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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:48:00 -
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You might want to switch from xml file creation to yaml
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