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Jita Auctioneer
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.28 06:17:00 -
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Hainnz wrote:Honestly, I wouldn't a expect a virtual item to have any kind of long lasting rarity.
then they might as well give faction battle ships with estamel mods as well... |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
118
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Posted - 2011.11.28 18:03:00 -
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Every year, I used to be so excited about wondering what unique items CCP will hand out as the "end of the year" anniversary gifts. I don't feel the same anymore. =( |
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2011.11.28 23:34:00 -
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OP what do you care what CCP offers to new players??
Don't answer, because I really don't care. |
Jita Alt666
577
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Posted - 2011.11.29 00:15:00 -
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Agree with OP. First step to reinventing history. |
Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.11.29 00:23:00 -
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It could be worse, they could be using InterBus shuttles. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2011.12.01 14:57:00 -
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It could be worse. That's what I am concerned about. If Apotheosis is being sacrificed for quick profit, then what would be CCP's next move to entice more players from joining the game or buying additional PLEXs?
At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised to see Gold Magnate, Opux Luxury Yacht, or Apocalypse Imperial Issue being handed out as an appreciation token for purchasing 24 x PLEXs or bringing in 3 recruits.
Please CCP, I beg you. Stop recycling the old unique collectible items and cheapening the experience and sentimental values of hundreds of players. Please create NEW items with SAME PROPERTIES instead of recycling old items. We are not asking much here |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
15
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:05:00 -
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+1
I've been tired of CCP monkeying with my collectables ever since they deleted my Mining Drone - Elite and put a T2 in it's place. |
Barakkus
1108
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:28:00 -
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Do something about it. Go suiciding Apotheosiseseses to reduce their numbers to make them special again. |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:37:00 -
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I don't really mind that they're reusing collectibles but how hard would it have been to make a new unique shuttle or implant or something?
This is from the Apotheosis description:
Quote:"For you, children, on your fifth birthday. May your next five years be as full of promise and hope, and may you one day walk with us as equals among the stars."
But few people know the last bit which was removed from the official record:
Quote:Oh and for you easy marks out there, we have a few thousand more in storage so LINE UP! Don't be shy! Plenty to go around, just hand over your cash and you too can have your very own apotheosis! |
acemoto
Goguryeo Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:54:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:+1
I've been tired of CCP monkeying with my collectables ever since they deleted my Mining Drone - Elite and put a T2 in it's place.
Didnt knoe that old special miners are switched. Should let old rare items be rare and vice versa. |
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Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:39:00 -
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I to have stored some cerebrals and apotheosis witch became less valuable now
But i support CCP with this,
the apotheosis was worthless and wildly available anyways and the cerebrals are real useful for new players/toons, it was obvious that that item might reappear after a certain time, and i tell you know, that it will reappear an other time (maybe as bpo/bpc)
Back then you could decide to take its nice effects or have 250mill on hand.
As trader you could make a buck ripping them off off new players
As scammer you could wast your bots time.
And as collector you just have to have some, just in case they don't reappear. Its a collateral risk.
- Now they got redistributed, A lot of trading going on. many lowlifes start farming them, increasing the the active accounts numbers CCP likes to swing around. etc etc the lower price make them more viable for many different things Every item in eve is related to market speculations, one way or the other.
One day my red dress will be worthless, probably, maybe, but i don't care, i know of that risk and its about the time till then.
If you know they are only seeded once, everyone would buy a few, the supply would be covered and no hope of big value increase. You as collector would be allot more pissed.
^_^/ |
acemoto
Goguryeo Incorporated
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:53:00 -
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Cap Tyrian wrote:I to have stored some cerebrals and apotheosis witch became less valuable now But i support CCP with this, the apotheosis was worthless and wildly available anyways and the cerebrals are real useful for new players/toons, it was obvious that that item might reappear after a certain time, and i tell you know, that it will reappear an other time (maybe as bpo/bpc) Back then you could decide to take its nice effects or have 250mill on hand. As trader you could make a buck ripping them off off new players As scammer you could wast your bots time. And as collector you just have to have some, just in case they don't reappear. Its a collateral risk. - Now they got redistributed, A lot of trading going on. many lowlifes start farming them, increasing the the active accounts numbers CCP likes to swing around. etc etc the lower price make them more viable for many different things Every item in eve is related to market speculations, one way or the other. One day my red dress will be worthless, probably, maybe, but i don't care, i know of that risk and its about the time till then. If you know they are only seeded once, everyone would buy a few, the supply would be covered and no hope of big value increase. You as collector would be allot more pissed. ^_^/
The question to your statement is that where the hell does CCP draw the line? If you look at the description of Apotheosis, it has nothing to do with the Power of 2 thingy. Apotheosis was issued to commemorate the EVE's 5 year universe.
Where does CCP draw line then? It's ok to redistribute Apotheosis, but not the Alliance Tournament Medals or Utu or Megathron Federate Issue? They distributed Apotheosis as a Power of 2 promotion, despite the fact that the item's description states that it has nothing to do with the promotion, but to commemorate EVE's bday.
Redistributing old items for events that have nothing to do with the nature of the items is CCP having a complete disregard for the Lores and History of EVE.
Market speculation is one thing, but making an entire new supply of Apotheosis is not merely exposing players to market speculation. It's creating a market repercussion that has immeasurable impact to Eve's Lore and a spit on the face to fellow collectors and history-nuts. |
Tomytronic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:05:00 -
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This is a game, not some toybox showroom.
I thought you'd've been more upset that CCP took your precious spaceships out of the plastic packaging before giving them to you... |
acemoto
Goguryeo Incorporated
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:11:00 -
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Tomytronic wrote:This is a game, not some toybox showroom.
I thought you'd've been more upset that CCP took your precious spaceships out of the plastic packaging before giving them to you...
Since you use ****** ships to do some pvping, with corps providing all the resources you need, you won't care much about how much effort it takes to accumulate ISK and re-invest it on other ventures, but just imagine, putting yourself in our shoes.
Despite how much you hate carebears and such, thousands of pilots spend countless hours to get better ships or vanity items or other random stuff that suit their interests. You are telling me that it's completely OK that CCP decides to hand out huge regions to a no-name corporations with infinite resources because they are the corps that purchased most PLEXs?
Everyone has different values and such. You can't just disregard others' interest. Time invested = money. |
Tennoku
Peerless Crown Fusion Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:25:00 -
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I agree with OP. |
Xenial Jesse Taalo
Tactical Nyan Cat Attack Force OMNIMODUS ALLIANCE
35
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:39:00 -
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I agree with OP.
At least a quick and dirty recoloured Apoth skin would have made everyone happy. Collectors don't deserves to have all their time and value thrown out when it can be easily avoided. |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:43:00 -
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acemoto wrote:
Everyone has different values and such. You can't just disregard others' interest.
Might not seem like it but this is a very valid point. |
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:59:00 -
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I R Carebare wrote:Cap Tyrian wrote:
Awesome post buy Cap Tyrian
^_^/
bla bla Where does CCP draw line then? It's ok to redistribute Apotheosis, but not the Alliance Tournament Medals or Utu or Megathron Federate Issue? bla CCP having a complete disregard for the Lores and History of EVE. bla bla new supply of Apotheosis ... It's creating a market repercussion that has immeasurable impact to Eve's Lore and a spit on the face to fellow collectors and history-nuts.
Yah exactly, it's ok to distribute the apotheosis and the other useless crap like echelon and zephyr . I can only laugh at how you are upset about the apotheosis description, would editing it be a tissue for your spat upon face. What apotheosis eve lore ? the game turned 5 , everyone got a free shuttle, big deal.
Bla Bla Where is the line T_T WHERE ? CCP has not crossed any line yet, bring the pitchforks when they are about to do something stupid. Leave Apotheosis alone, leave her alone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
Only the cerebral accelerator is a miner concern, the accelerator was obvious and ok, but other boxed gifts include the interbus shuttle witch would be sad to see given away to anyone but even that would not throw eve in to disaster like you pointed out. side note: mr. "Antiquarian" seriously 70mill ?lol, i bid 70.1 :P
etc etc i got to go
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
124
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:05:00 -
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Cap Tyrian wrote: I R Carebare wrote:Cap Tyrian wrote:
Awesome post buy Cap Tyrian
^_^/
bla bla Where does CCP draw line then? It's ok to redistribute Apotheosis, but not the Alliance Tournament Medals or Utu or Megathron Federate Issue? bla CCP having a complete disregard for the Lores and History of EVE. bla bla new supply of Apotheosis ... It's creating a market repercussion that has immeasurable impact to Eve's Lore and a spit on the face to fellow collectors and history-nuts. Yah exactly, it's ok to distribute the apotheosis and the other useless crap like echelon and zephyr . I can only laugh at how you are upset about the apotheosis description, would editing it be a tissue for your spat upon face. What apotheosis eve lore ? the game turned 5 , everyone got a free shuttle, big deal. Bla Bla Where is the line T_T WHERE ? CCP has not crossed any line yet, bring the pitchforks when they are about to do something stupid. Leave Apotheosis alone, leave her alone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowcOnly the cerebral accelerator is a miner concern, the accelerator was obvious and ok, but other boxed gifts include the interbus shuttle witch would be sad to see given away to anyone but even that would not throw eve in to disaster like you pointed out. side note: mr. "Antiquarian" seriously 70mill ?lol, i bid 70.1 :P etc etc i got to go
You have a valid point. Apotheosis' market value is only 8M or so. It's a pitiful amount that we can earn in less than 10 minutes of farming in the mission. What I am concerned about is CCP using this as a turning point of churning out all the other "historical/collectible" ships & items in EVE. I've seen many companies including SWG and Star Trek Online, making concession of handing out one small item after another (which they implicitly let the consumers know that these were "limited edition") for one promotion after another, then eventually handing out all the "collectible and limited" items for subsequent promotions several months later.
Surely, you don't want EVE to turn out like that? Do you think I am really concerned about Apotheosis' value depreciating? I am just worried that CCP will start churning out other collectible ships as part of the promotional events in the future. |
Verite Rendition
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
96
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:16:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:+1
I've been tired of CCP monkeying with my collectables ever since they deleted my Mining Drone - Elite and put a T2 in it's place. Weird. Mine is still intact. I certainly hope they're not deleting them. |
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2011.12.03 05:13:00 -
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Verite Rendition wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:+1
I've been tired of CCP monkeying with my collectables ever since they deleted my Mining Drone - Elite and put a T2 in it's place. Weird. Mine is still intact. I certainly hope they're not deleting them.
Mine is ok as well. |
Gaesomun Yeon
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 03:21:00 -
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+1
I agree |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2011.12.05 12:42:00 -
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Gaesomun Yeon wrote:+1
I agree
Thank you for the support!
The Antiquarian |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2011.12.08 19:09:00 -
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At least it's good to know that CCP does not hand out free Apotheosis or Cerebral Implants any more! And the last PLEX discount promotion did not hand out old historical items either.
A good sign? |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
130
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:11:00 -
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Another positive streak continues!
The new "FLEX for PLEX" Promotion does not hand out old historical-collectible items or ships as part of the promotion!
Thank you, CCP. |
Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.13 22:14:00 -
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These r just internet ships.
I want alliance tournament ships from buying plex. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
151
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Posted - 2011.12.13 22:43:00 -
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Just add "Mk. II" to the name of any newly made Primae's or Apotheosises or whatever. Collector's value of originals preserved. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
98
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Posted - 2011.12.13 22:49:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Just add "Mk. II" to the name of any newly made Primae's or Apotheosises or whatever. Collector's value of originals preserved.
Yeah this is a captain obvious point.
They really need to go back and DO this retroactively to the gifts they gave out.
This is another slap in the face to players.
Especially collectors and those that might have invested in collectible ships. Its sets a bad precedent for collectibles going forwards. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
188
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Posted - 2011.12.13 23:07:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Just add "Mk. II" to the name of any newly made Primae's or Apotheosises or whatever. Collector's value of originals preserved. Well... yes there is this. I think that would be a valid option...
However there is another option too... there are a LOT of ships already in the database that no capsuleer has. For instance, the Apotheosis was derived from SOCT 1. Not a big deal, right? So what is so difficult about issuing SOCT 2 for the next promotion, instead of re-issuing the same one? There's also a SOCT Cruiser.
If CCP really wanted to get creative, they could issue all of the Fighter and Fighter Bombers as pilotable ships too... It might be a fun mini-game within EvE to get into fighter fights with ships that are negated by T1 frigates as a sort of mini-game within EvE. The fighters are already built as pilotable ships in the database too!
For something a bit bigger they might issue out a Styx or any number of the really cool ships they already have that no one ever sees. Nobody has a Gold Magnate... just sayin'...
The bottom line is that there are other low-effort options. Re-issuing the same smack over and over again is just no-effort. I'd like to see the no-effort policy curbed. All GëíGêçGëí Ships | GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá | <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game
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Thrawn Nostur
Impulsive Anarchy Talocan United
0
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Posted - 2011.12.14 01:29:00 -
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Give everyone veldnaughts please |
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