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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10864
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:31:00 -
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it's amazing how many people want us kicked out of our space but won't lift a finger to see it happen Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12382
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:35:00 -
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Andski wrote:it's amazing how many people want us kicked out of our space but won't lift a finger to see it happen
At least 50% of that goon vote are goons. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10864
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:37:00 -
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true goons vote checkbox so there are a maximum of 7 goons who have voted there Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3325
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:39:00 -
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SOLAR, The Initiative and Brick Squad. Oh god. |
Lugia3
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
1021
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:40:00 -
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Found the special ed.
Because CODE isn't a sov holding alliance. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10864
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:41:00 -
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highsec braveheart thread number whokeepscountanyway Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Stoseph Stuarts
IIII Inc. The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
17
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:45:00 -
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Andski wrote:highsec braveheart thread number whokeepscountanyway
Number 2 and many more to come ;) not so much a highsec dweller though, I spend my time equally between high/low/null. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10864
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:47:00 -
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how many mission runners in dual tanked ravens do you predict you'll rally to your cause Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Stoseph Stuarts
IIII Inc. The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
17
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:51:00 -
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Andski wrote:how many mission runners in dual tanked ravens do you predict you'll rally to your cause I think these dual tank ravens were before my time, care to elaborate on why you seem so fixated with them? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10675
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:59:00 -
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My vote shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7965
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:03:00 -
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Andski wrote:it's amazing how many people want us kicked out of our space but won't lift a finger to see it happen
Entitlement dictates to them that they deserve your stuff without them having to earn it, because their rationalization is that you do not deserve it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
2927
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:04:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Found the special ed. Because CODE isn't a sov holding alliance. I'll try to answer seriously when a serious question is asked. .. when everything else is gone .. |
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
28
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:04:00 -
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Northern Associates. Brothers of Tangra Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
If I had to pick just one I'd pick NA. because it would be humorous to see the NC. bunch lose great swathes of space yet again, and be utterly annihilated by the CFC in the ensuing chaos. |
Stoseph Stuarts
IIII Inc. The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
17
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:07:00 -
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Talas Dir wrote:Northern Associates. Brothers of Tangra Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
If I had to pick just one I'd pick NA. because it would be humorous to see the NC. bunch lose great swathes of space yet again, and be utterly annihilated by the CFC in the ensuing chaos. NA. isn't just NC. man, nulli secunda and the kadeshi also use northern associates for renting out systems. Getting rid of NA. would not only screw over NC. but most of the N3 coalition. |
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
28
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:08:00 -
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Stoseph Stuarts wrote: Getting rid of NA. would not only screw over NC. but most of the N3 coalition.
Even better |
Stoseph Stuarts
IIII Inc. The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
17
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:18:00 -
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Talas Dir wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote: Getting rid of NA. would not only screw over NC. but most of the N3 coalition. Even better Exactly ;) if all the renters in that renter program stood up they could claim a part of sov null for themselves, they just feel scared to because they're renters. They need someone to show them they're actually stronger than those who oppress them ;) |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7966
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:20:00 -
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Stoseph Stuarts wrote:Talas Dir wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote: Getting rid of NA. would not only screw over NC. but most of the N3 coalition. Even better Exactly ;) if all the renters in that renter program stood up they could claim a part of sov null for themselves, they just feel scared to because they're renters. They need someone to show them they're actually stronger than those who oppress them ;)
No, they'd die like dogs. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Stoseph Stuarts
IIII Inc. The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
17
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:22:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote:Talas Dir wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote: Getting rid of NA. would not only screw over NC. but most of the N3 coalition. Even better Exactly ;) if all the renters in that renter program stood up they could claim a part of sov null for themselves, they just feel scared to because they're renters. They need someone to show them they're actually stronger than those who oppress them ;) No, they'd die like dogs. It's talking like that that makes people scared to actually fight for what they want, this is a game afterall so why should you play under someone's rules that aren't actually the game developers? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7967
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:27:00 -
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Stoseph Stuarts wrote: It's talking like that that makes people scared to actually fight for what they want, this is a game afterall so why should you play under someone's rules that aren't actually the game developers?
You misunderstand.
If they could take sov on their own, they wouldn't be renters in the first place.
The reason they play under someone else's rules is because this is a sandbox. The rules are whatever you can enforce with your military might. The various nullsec blocs can enforce the rule that if you want to live there, you have to pay them. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Hiyora Akachi
Yulai Guard Yulai Federation
207
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:29:00 -
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All of them.
Can we kill all the supers too |
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Stoseph Stuarts
IIII Inc. The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
17
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:33:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote: It's talking like that that makes people scared to actually fight for what they want, this is a game afterall so why should you play under someone's rules that aren't actually the game developers?
You misunderstand. If they could take sov on their own, they wouldn't be renters in the first place. The reason they play under someone else's rules is because this is a sandbox. The rules are whatever you can enforce with your military might. The various nullsec blocs can enforce the rule that if you want to live there, you have to pay them. That is what I am saying. The current null blocs can only enforce it because they scare people into thinking they can't take on their 'military might' the truth of the matter is without the renters supplying them with their 'military might' they wouldn't have anything to enforce their rules with. All it would take is a few months of attritional warfare and I'm sure either the N3 side or CFC sides would fall, maybe even both.
The renter side of the CFC is anything but goonswarm federation itself. The alliances that are a part of the CFC are just the puppets of goons so you could say they are goons version of northern associates, why do you think the renter alliance we see is so small? My theory also explains these financial scandals alliances like fatal ascension are having, I wonder who recieved the Isk? ;) |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7968
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:37:00 -
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Stoseph Stuarts wrote: That is what I am saying. The current null blocs can only enforce it because they scare people into thinking they can't take on their 'military might' the truth of the matter is without the renters supplying them with their 'military might' they wouldn't have anything to enforce their rules with. All it would take is a few months of attritional warfare and I'm sure either the N3 side or CFC sides would fall, maybe even both.
You're wrong. The renters genuinely cannot take on the organized forces of the nullsec blocs.
N3 could probably scourge their renters in about a week, kick them back to lowsec with no assets. They can't mount any kind of offensive to take sov with "attritional warfare". "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Jenni LaCroix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:43:00 -
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Of course Goonswarm is chosen as number one, because people just can't stand the fact that Goon's revenge for how they were treated initially in the game is so harsh, well organized and effective. I personally chose PL, because people that can't do better but hot drop dozens of super capitals to kill one Battlecruisers in low sec, don't really deserve the isk to pilot them to begin with
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5548
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:54:00 -
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Meh. Let null keep circle jerking for another ten years.
What would be fun is driving all their mission and mining bots alts out of Empire.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
330
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:13:00 -
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Jenni LaCroix wrote:Of course Goonswarm is chosen as number one, because people just can't stand the fact that Goon's revenge for how they were treated initially in the game is so harsh, well organized and effective. I personally chose PL, because people that can't do better but hot drop dozens of super capitals to kill one Battlecruisers in low sec, don't really deserve the isk to pilot them to begin with
Most of the people who voted goons were goons themselves.
Also, the idea that any number of renters could claim their own space by attrition is laughable as they could not overcome the various blocs super capital supremacy. You might somehow get there by infiltrating the owner corps and then initiating a massive Sov drop like what happened to S2N a while back. But even that didn't work; they ground out several hundred systems in as little as 3 days.
You literally do not have a prayer. |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
172
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:25:00 -
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grrrr goons
Taking my stuff . blowing me up , mocking me.
I should have never choosen n3 :( http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Realm of God Triple Penetration Empire
5198
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:35:00 -
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Hiyora Akachi wrote:All of them. Can we kill all the supers too
This ^^ But if I had to pick one...Goons. |
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
29
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:37:00 -
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Stoseph Stuarts wrote:Talas Dir wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote: Getting rid of NA. would not only screw over NC. but most of the N3 coalition. Even better Exactly ;) if all the renters in that renter program stood up they could claim a part of sov null for themselves, they just feel scared to because they're renters. They need someone to show them they're actually stronger than those who oppress them ;)
I think you misunderstand me. Renter scum are a part of what is making null boring and stagnant. It would be an absolute dream if the major blocs one day just decided "**** it" and drive the renters out of null, but this won't happen for a number of different reasons.
I'd rather see new alliances and coalitions spring up that can hold their own, but it's nearly impossible with how things are right now. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1106
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:46:00 -
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Stoseph Stuarts wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote:Talas Dir wrote:Stoseph Stuarts wrote: Getting rid of NA. would not only screw over NC. but most of the N3 coalition. Even better Exactly ;) if all the renters in that renter program stood up they could claim a part of sov null for themselves, they just feel scared to because they're renters. They need someone to show them they're actually stronger than those who oppress them ;) No, they'd die like dogs. It's talking like that that makes people scared to actually fight for what they want, this is a game afterall so why should you play under someone's rules that aren't actually the game developers?
Sovereign null would be not be very sovereign if owning it didn't allow you to organize it as you see fit. Also I literally haven't seen a goon in my system in months let alone been oppressed by one.
Renters actually do a lot of small scale pvp, even I scan down people's ships and kill them, but maybe 1 in 100 renter corporations have what it takes to be useful in sovereign warfare. (Ie 30+ people online at the same time +logistics train to resupply ships and redeploy the corp).
If an organization that doesn't currently hold sov but intends to tread the political and military minefield required to get there - I'll sign on as a capital pilot willing to take logistics train responsibilies. It's probably the next stage of my eve career, and I'd enjoy that more than dog piling into a cfc / n3 alliance.
Being kicked out afterwards or failing an invasion is probably not worth fearing as an event. |
Anthar Thebess
592
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Posted - 2014.07.17 07:08:00 -
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Remove SOV! Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
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