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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:20:00 -
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I misread someone else's thread, and actually thought it was a good idea that I've never seen come up.
Skill points for PLEX.
Not "buy a PLEX and convert it to skill points" but "Convert skillpoints you wish you didn't have into PLEX"
Feeling bad about all those industry/mining skills you trained but never use? Convert them into a PLEX!
Annoyed that CCP is completely removing skills from the game (Material Efficiency V anyone?) and playing the semantics game by "changing" the skill to a completely different one? Just delete those useless skill points and apply them towards a PLEX!
Obviously, the ratio of skill points to PLEX would have to be pretty high - far higher than the amount of skill points you can generate during a billing cycle - but I'm sure CCP (or the forums) could math out a good ratio.
Bonus is that a lot of very old/high SP characters who are heavily into being "bittervets" would have an easy way to grab some PLEX and shed so many SP that they could once again get that "newbie" feel (gee, I can't wait until I can fly interceptors *again*!).
I see no downside to this and plenty of upside. It's only a matter of time. I am not an alt of Chribba. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5567
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:24:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
I see no downside to this and plenty of upside.
You are about to be educated in the many downsides to this. Hang on people until I get the popcorn made.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:29:00 -
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I'm all in favour of quicker training times.
But the problem is it will be P2W
Presently you can get isk via PLEX so it's kind of limited P2W as you are limited by your learnt skills. SP for PLEX would remove that limitation. |
eliminator2
Moretsu pirates Bad-Intentions
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:31:00 -
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just gunna post so i can view all hate |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:33:00 -
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Back up guys.. ima gonna roll my ISD dice to see whos gonna lock it..
Came up Barstorlode. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Carmen Electra
705
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:33:00 -
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What's that saying? IB4TL? eve is dying |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
451
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:35:00 -
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I am not even sure what to say about this. It's utterly ridiculous on it's face, but other that helping to bust the bubble on the PLEX market (which is already happening on it's own), I don't see much of a downside so long as the numbers were properly tweeked.
Well, other than the fact that it would cost CCP some twentybux, which means that it will probably never happen. ;) |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
326
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:38:00 -
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ISD Barstool incoming! - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:42:00 -
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Still on the front page: Time for Skillpoints for plex ? [locked] |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:49:00 -
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if you right click a plex then redeem it for game time, then wait 30 days. your plex will have given you 30 days of SP.
it's magic. |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
673
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:50:00 -
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I wouldn't see a problem with a skillpoint redistribution for PLEX, 1 PLEX per 10 mil sp should be more than fair... as long as it was also on an annual cooldown or even a one time deal. You would also have to PLEX your entire sp pool, not just the sp you wanted to remap. So you want to remove your Caldari Dreadnought V in favor of Minmatar Dreadnought V? You still have to pay to remap your other 100 million sp.
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Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
269
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:59:00 -
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oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!
I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho
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Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:01:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!
I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho
You're not the only one, edited my post after rereading the op this time more carefully. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
269
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:02:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Yarda Black wrote:oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!
I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho
You're not the only one, edited my post after rereading the op this time more carefully.
Damn you! :)
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
711
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:07:00 -
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This idea is bad on several levels, a few of which are just annoyances.
1) as said already, eve is a game of choices and consequences. You chose your path, you can change it later, but that's your choice. In other mmo's they limit your ability based on race and class. In eve the only limitation is time.
2) In real life once you learn something, you can't really unlearn it. I personally have not worked for burger king in close to 20 years now, but I can still make a whopper and wrap the damn sandwich faster then people working at other fast food places. I can't unlearn any of the skills I gained while working there, it was 3 year of my life that is now technically wasted, but it was a choice I made. The same goes with eve, I have skills in eve that I have not used in years, some I wished I never had. But they were my choices and my history. So this is a bad idea form logic.
3) I honestly wish CCP would stop removing skills. But that's just me, its created this class of 'omg this is changing gimme back my sps!' The same thing happened when exodus was launched, ccp credited the players 2 free days, and for about 5 years ever patch players asked for free days... sigh.
No this idea is dumb from a pure balance aspect. As I said the only limiting factor in eve is time. You made your choice, deal with he consequences. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
97
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:19:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:if you right click a plex then redeem it for game time, then wait 30 days. your plex will have given you 30 days of SP.
it's magic.
Example of knee jerk post |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
451
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:29:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!
I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho
No, I actually read the op as well, which my first post can attest to. I am still not exactly sure what to make of the idea though. |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
521
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:35:00 -
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Unless it cost twice as much SP as what you could earn in a month, this is essentially delayed skill remapping.... Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
Captain Stupid
Rogue Dog Villains incendia equus
142
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:36:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Back up guys.. ima gonna roll my ISD dice to see whos gonna lock it..
Came up Barstorlode.
You are wrong! It will surely be Ezwal!
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Komi Toran
Paragon Trust The Bastion
137
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:41:00 -
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I have to give it to the OP: this is the least terrible thread with that has the words/phrases "PLEX" and "skill points" together in a single sentence.
It's not an offensive idea, I just don't see it happening. I don't know why CCP would do it as you're basically letting people recycle game time. The accounts you manage to retain with this scheme wouldn't be financially supporting the game because of that. |
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Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
60
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:47:00 -
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I don't see how a month of skill points could ever be worth trading for a plex. Even that random thing you trained long ago I'd think is more valuable to keep as a future option than liquidating it for something that can be bought with isk. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
573
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:01:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
I see no downside to this and plenty of upside.
You are about to be educated in the many downsides to this. Hang on people until I get the popcorn made. Mr Epeen
I always have a tub of pop corn for these occasions. |
Pizoph Deequad
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:13:00 -
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I'm not in favor of this idea. As an uber noob to the game, I see Eve's longevity being based on two things.
1: There is no substitute in this game for experience. Period. 2: There is no way around #1.
P2W is virtually non-existant in EVE, and this scheme would undo a good portion of that.
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darmwand
Repo.
220
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:28:00 -
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I would already be happy if we could unlearn skills at the same pace as we can learn them, i.e. invest a couple of hours to clean up my skill sheet... "Imagine it is war and everybody cloaks." -- Bienator II |
Carmen Electra
722
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:28:00 -
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I come back from lunch and this thread still isn't locked. Today's full of surprises. eve is dying |
Eleanor Wish
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:31:00 -
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Gonna put my money on Tyrozan. Haven't seen him in a while. |
Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
66
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:28:00 -
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I can see it now. People activating old accounts so they can strip the old character of SP and convert to PLEX. Taking said PLEX and RMTing it on EBAY or wherever. I can see no positive things coming from it. CCP already refunded SP of removed/changed skills. Your decision to train a skill should remain forever. Trust me, knowing what I know now, I would have trained myself entirely differently then I did. That is part of Eve though, actions have consequences. |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:44:00 -
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Id rather use plex to redistribute a set amount of sp with a limit of use to 1 time every six months. |
Foxstar Damaskeenus
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
154
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:54:00 -
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Skill point changes.
ABSOLUTELY **** NO! |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
769
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:05:00 -
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- SP for PLEX
- Grind for SP
- Plex for SP to reduce clone costs
- Eliminate clone costs altogether because clones are way to expensive
- Get rid of podding to eliminate loss of costly implants
- Go play SC because EVE is no longer the game it used to be
Remove insurance. |
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