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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2014.07.18 20:23:00 -
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Dear CCP, while I know that a designer or few spent many loving hours crafting this it seems to have been forgotten that legebility should be the primary goal coupled with information access. As it is it is something you would need a capsuleer 's implants to filter and extract the information in a timely and rational manner.
A suggestion, you have a community of dedicated, smart (sometimes) creative people.
The creators of DOTLAN might welcome the opportunity to create a useful one to replace it, and the current map can just be a pretty feature to ooh over, (it is pretty) try bribing them with isk, plex and strippers and see how you get on? A little public credit and roohah probably might sweeten the deal.
Give it a go? You know we want you to. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
154
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Posted - 2014.07.18 21:15:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Dear CCP, while I know that a designer or few spent many loving hours crafting this it seems to have been forgotten that legebility should be the primary goal coupled with information access. As it is it is something you would need a capsuleer 's implants to filter and extract the information in a timely and rational manner.
A suggestion, you have a community of dedicated, smart (sometimes) creative people.
The creators of DOTLAN might welcome the opportunity to create a useful one to replace it, and the current map can just be a pretty feature to ooh over, (it is pretty) try bribing them with isk, plex and strippers and see how you get on? A little public credit and roohah probably might sweeten the deal.
Give it a go? You know we want you to. Look for the button that says "Unflatten Map" and view New Eden as it truly is. New Eden is a three dimensional galaxy, and when you view it in that context it does make sense. The flattened map only looks wonky because in order to achieve the effect the map is simply flattened. Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
999
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Posted - 2014.07.18 21:36:00 -
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I personally would love to let the map have it's own window rather than permanently taking the whole screen to use it. |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
538
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:02:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote: Look for the button that says "Unflatten Map" and view New Eden as it truly is. New Eden is a three dimensional galaxy, and when you view it in that context it does make sense. The flattened map only looks wonky because in order to achieve the effect the map is simply flattened.
This. Until you learn to read the map unflattened you don't know how to use it with even a modicum of it's potential. DOTLAN is pretty useless in my opinion, unless you like flow charts...
Unless you have a strong preference for flow charts....
Unless you have an unhealthy obsession with flow charts.... Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
225
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:14:00 -
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Never used Dotlan, I live in a 3 dimensional universe. And I get my info myself. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4105
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:42:00 -
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I would love to see the option to filter down to a region or even constellation so the whole universe is no longer rotating around in the background. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
538
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:51:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I would love to see the option to filter down to a region or even constellation so the whole universe is no longer rotating around in the background.
Having a window and being able to filter by region and constellation would be great.
I think it can't be put in it's own window due to some quirk with the engine though. There's something curious about the fact that it can't keep the map loaded at the same time as you're viewing space. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1823
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Posted - 2014.07.19 02:16:00 -
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Dont use dotlan either, but my gf bought me this. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1463
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Posted - 2014.07.19 06:37:00 -
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Ingame map is fine, it SHOULDNT give alot of information, or be easy to get information with. The ease with which players can get risk/effort free intel ingame, even with a delay like the map, is ridiculous.
So no, the pretty ingame map does not need to be replaced with Dotlan-McFlowchart-Stats |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2189
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Posted - 2014.07.19 06:57:00 -
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In-game map is like in-game fitting window: it sucks in comparison to 3rd party tools.
AFAIR during one of Fanfest talks somebody said something about plans of improving UI and functionality of map. But it was Fanfest so they say anything to avoid being stampeded by hordes of nerdz. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
840
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Posted - 2014.07.19 20:11:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Dear CCP, while I know that a designer or few spent many loving hours crafting this it seems to have been forgotten that legebility should be the primary goal coupled with information access. As it is it is something you would need a capsuleer 's implants to filter and extract the information in a timely and rational manner.
A suggestion, you have a community of dedicated, smart (sometimes) creative people.
The creators of DOTLAN might welcome the opportunity to create a useful one to replace it, and the current map can just be a pretty feature to ooh over, (it is pretty) try bribing them with isk, plex and strippers and see how you get on? A little public credit and roohah probably might sweeten the deal.
Give it a go? You know we want you to. Look for the button that says "Unflatten Map" and view New Eden as it truly is. New Eden is a three dimensional galaxy, and when you view it in that context it does make sense. The flattened map only looks wonky because in order to achieve the effect the map is simply flattened.
I realise that, but thanks, It would be nice to have something, that was better designed, but I created comments and discussion so all is well.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole
392
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Posted - 2014.07.19 20:47:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Dear CCP, while I know that a designer or few spent many loving hours crafting this it seems to have been forgotten that legebility should be the primary goal coupled with information access. As it is it is something you would need a capsuleer 's implants to filter and extract the information in a timely and rational manner.
A suggestion, you have a community of dedicated, smart (sometimes) creative people.
The creators of DOTLAN might welcome the opportunity to create a useful one to replace it, and the current map can just be a pretty feature to ooh over, (it is pretty) try bribing them with isk, plex and strippers and see how you get on? A little public credit and roohah probably might sweeten the deal.
Give it a go? You know we want you to. Look for the button that says "Unflatten Map" and view New Eden as it truly is. New Eden is a three dimensional galaxy, and when you view it in that context it does make sense. The flattened map only looks wonky because in order to achieve the effect the map is simply flattened. I realise that, but thanks, It would be nice to have something, that was better designed, but I created the opportunity for comments and discussion so all is well.
The map is a wonderful tool full of information that lets you make predictions of considerable accuracy. You can view jumps, ship kills, pod kills, sec status, factions, alliances, pilots in space, an a whole slew of other options. All of these statistics and information can be accessed quite easily. You'd be surprised how often I have to pop it open planing routes for logistics operations from a wormhole. So, as a frequent user of the map, don't you dare alter it. It's perfectly informative the way it is. Schrodinger's Hot Dropper - The Fate of Forum Alts - Click me! Click me! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2979
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:00:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Dear CCP, while I know that a designer or few spent many loving hours crafting this it seems to have been forgotten that legebility should be the primary goal coupled with information access. As it is it is something you would need a capsuleer 's implants to filter and extract the information in a timely and rational manner.
A suggestion, you have a community of dedicated, smart (sometimes) creative people.
The creators of DOTLAN might welcome the opportunity to create a useful one to replace it, and the current map can just be a pretty feature to ooh over, (it is pretty) try bribing them with isk, plex and strippers and see how you get on? A little public credit and roohah probably might sweeten the deal.
Give it a go? You know we want you to. Lrn23Dspacialyaware , nothing needs changing. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
484
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:06:00 -
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I only use dotlan to plan jumps.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
937
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:58:00 -
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F11 offers something that it seems people would like. It is primitive though, perhaps it could use a makeover? It would be nice if you could make the background see through, it would also give the appearance of having "floating" 3D maps in space.
All the maps are there, Universe, Region, Constellation, Solar System. All can open up the main map with selected object centralized and zoomed to.
But man they look primitive. Its like a feature that hasn't seen polish in a loooong time...but incredibly useful. |
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