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13 nonames
Jumpbridg
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Posted - 2014.07.20 06:10:00 -
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I would like to see a harder punishment set out for hi sec gankers such as a sec limiter put in place to make it so anyone with a -6 sec may no longer get into hi sec no more criminal driving around hi security space seeing as a so call advanced society would not have wanted criminal walking the street as well as a faster response time for concord and a new sytem put in place that makes it so the concord on your grid will aggress new and old criminals not just faction police |
Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
209
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Posted - 2014.07.20 06:12:00 -
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
755
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Posted - 2014.07.20 06:22:00 -
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13 nonames wrote:rampant stupidity
Sorry, CCP doesn't agree with you.
Maybe you are simply playing the wrong game?
In any event, Star Trek Online is thataway
Oh, by the way, can I have your stuff?
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8033
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Posted - 2014.07.20 06:42:00 -
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I see you're in a player corp.
Not for long, I imagine. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Giuseppe R Raimondo
Lowsey Pirates Inc. Easily Excited
51
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Posted - 2014.07.20 07:31:00 -
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a way to reduce highsec ganking is to remove the option to turn in tags and buy your security status up. Everyone knew it was a stupied idea when introduced, i am supriced its still a thing |
Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
281
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Posted - 2014.07.20 07:43:00 -
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If we were to drink the koolaid here and agree. Then for the sake of balance, once you've passed the 3 month date then everyone must leave hisec.
The fact that the majority of players are in hisec is reflective of it being too easy to eek out a living there. So as a result the gankers move to where the herds are.
Push the fish out of the barrel and people won't have to come there to shoot them. And as a side effect you get stronger bigger fish and better fishermen to catch them. |
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
58
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Posted - 2014.07.20 07:44:00 -
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While I don't necessarily agree with OP, some things about criminals are kinda dumb. Like, "Hey, we know you're a criminal and we will shoot you on sight, but you can dock in our station! Come on in!"
In any event, it's obvious CCP likes ganking and general mischief. If not, it'd be gone. So they wouldn't want to make it any harder to do. |
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
33
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Posted - 2014.07.20 07:55:00 -
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Then how do the pirates make isk? Or do you just want to run around in your officer fit ravens without any worry and making stacks of isk safely EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics -á
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.07.20 07:57:00 -
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After reading this i fancy a bit of ganking myself :D EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics -á
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Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
675
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Posted - 2014.07.20 07:59:00 -
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I think he's trying to state that we must first gank the gankers before they gank the gankees, then by doing so the ganked become the gankers and everyone can untwist their panties. |
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Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Woodchoppers Noir. Mercenary Group
97
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Posted - 2014.07.20 08:17:00 -
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Sure, just grab a ship and start the punitive action! I mean, a -6 sec char is fair game to everyone. Do grab something Amarrian for that extra judgemental flair. If you didn't want them in your hi-sec why didn't you stop them? |
Haaranovor tenn
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
11
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Posted - 2014.07.20 08:27:00 -
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People with very low sec status are shot on sight by CONCORD, and I think there's also a point where players can shoot them at will too. |
Istyn
Freight Club
351
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Posted - 2014.07.20 08:41:00 -
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Haaranovor tenn wrote:People with very low sec status are shot on sight by CONCORD, and I think there's also a point where players can shoot them at will too.
They're shot on sight by faction police, not Concord - and it depends how low their sec status is as to whether they'll be shot in a particular system.
Players can shoot anyone with -5 as they're outlaws.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Security_status#Security_Status_and_Traveling_Restrictions |
Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.07.20 09:15:00 -
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Orca
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8035
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Posted - 2014.07.20 09:17:00 -
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Christian Lionbate wrote:OrcaAll becomes clear
Ah, anti tanking.
OP, you deserved to lose that ship. Next time, fit a proper tank. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Azov Rassau
The Hornets Cartel
62
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Posted - 2014.07.20 09:23:00 -
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OP: So you would like to see CCP make life harder for outlaw gankers in highsec. Let me remind you how difficult life is for them already: These people live in highsec as outlaws. I have never been in that situation yet, but I can fully imagine how annoying it can be .They're already constantly being chased by the faction police. They cannot stay at a given place for too long, hence the necessity to move around a.s.a.p, from bookmark to bookmark at all times before reaching the desired destination or target. Whatever neurosis that drives the ganker to commit his crime is compounded, magnified by flight, by the sounds of that faction police spawn at his heels. This results in constant uneasiness, which becomes paranoia, and paranoia ultimately becomes psychosis. In addition to that, they can be tackled by a white knight at a stargate anytime. But generally speaking, the key to gankers success is that they're willing to die, while most anti-gankers aren't.
I am sorry for your recent loss. CCP has already given you the tools to avoid it. Your Orca wasn't the tankiest and maybe you were even afk and your shield hardeners were probably not on. If you had paid attention, you could notice their warp-in standing on top of you and have enough time to even warp away (assuming their warp-in wasn't clever enough to bump you).
Highsec isn't 100% safe and it's up to You to protect your assets, not CCP. No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1227
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Posted - 2014.07.20 09:44:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:13 nonames wrote:rampant stupidity Sorry, CCP doesn't agree with you. Maybe you are simply playing the wrong game? In any event, Star Trek Online is thataway Oh, by the way, can I have your stuff? Haha, "rampant stupidity".
Among all the other problems with OP's daft idea is that people don't get -10 only from ganking people in highsec. My sec status is dubious at best and I have only ever suicide ganked one miner. Lowsec goodness results in low sec status too. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Haaranovor tenn
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
11
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:20:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Christian Lionbate wrote:OrcaAll becomes clear Ah, anti tanking. OP, you deserved to lose that ship. Next time, fit a proper tank.
They gave it a goddamn ore hold for a reason. Bulkhead and a DCII adds EHP for days. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10871
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:28:00 -
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i, too, need game mechanics to fight my battles for me Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Saar Ynier
Shadowed Industries
10
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:35:00 -
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Giuseppe R Raimondo wrote:a way to reduce highsec ganking is to remove the option to turn in tags and buy your security status up. Everyone knew it was a stupied idea when introduced, i am supriced its still a thing
I kind of have to agree here.
I have taken to sitting sometimes in Josameto and watching the same person in a Vexor over and over gank haulers, then the neutral alt warps to the wreck, scoops it and warps off.
Then once he's done for the week, billions of ISK in loot up, he goes to Jan and repairs his sec ready for the next week with tags to no cost to himself...
Don't get me wrong, ganking is part of this game, but since these tags were introduced there's been far more smaller entities.
I am actually considering creating an alt myself specifically for training drones and a Vexor and doing it myself. There's a lot of ISK to be had from it and no risk to myself. |
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Lily Shahn
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:11:00 -
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As no other Lords members have been through yet, I take it upon myself to make the following proclamation.
13 nonames, for your heresies against highsec, the sandbox that makes Eve the game that it is, and the principle of HTFU, the Lords Of Midnight will be adding another carebear beheading to our Kill-It-Forward queue.
You yourself will not be attacked. You and Lords of Midnight may never cross paths in your time in New Eden. Pray that, should it be otherwise, we do not meet under typical circumstances.
Instead, an innocent carebear will be destroyed through panache, guile and the game mechanics already nerfed by CCP, to prove that not only are the rules of the world reasonable, they are ignored by the people you claim to represent when it suits them.
We will punish the innocent, hypocrites though they are, for your hypocrisy, not theirs. They will know the name of the one who signed their death warrant.
May whatever deity you pray to have mercy on your immortal capsuleer soul.
Lily Shahn, Apprentice and Cutie Pie,
Lords Of Midnight. |
Maichin Civire
New Eden Possibilities
71
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:20:00 -
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You've had nice orca, OP. Shame it was ganked.
HTFU. http://quietrebelwriting.blogspot.com/
- my little blog about one of the worst blogs about EVE Online. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10871
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:21:00 -
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Saar Ynier wrote:Then once he's done for the week, billions of ISK in loot up, he goes to Jan and repairs his sec ready for the next week with tags to no cost to himself...
i didn't know tags were free Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10871
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:23:00 -
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Lily Shahn wrote:As no other Lords members have been through yet, I take it upon myself to make the following proclamation.
13 nonames, for your heresies against highsec, the sandbox that makes Eve the game that it is, and the principle of HTFU, the Lords Of Midnight will be adding another carebear beheading to our Kill-It-Forward queue.
You yourself will not be attacked. You and Lords of Midnight may never cross paths in your time in New Eden. Pray that, should it be otherwise, we do not meet under typical circumstances.
Instead, an innocent carebear will be destroyed through panache, guile and the game mechanics already nerfed by CCP, to prove that not only are the rules of the world reasonable, they are ignored by the people you claim to represent when it suits them.
We will punish the innocent, hypocrites though they are, for your hypocrisy, not theirs. They will know the name of the one who signed their death warrant.
May whatever deity you pray to have mercy on your immortal capsuleer soul.
Lily Shahn, Apprentice and Cutie Pie,
Lords Of Midnight.
does this mean I can post carebear entitlement crap with sockpuppet characters and get some bears blown up Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:38:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:If we were to drink the koolaid here and agree. Then for the sake of balance, once you've passed the 3 month date then everyone must leave hisec.
The fact that the majority of players are in hisec is reflective of it being too easy to eek out a living there. So as a result the gankers move to where the herds are.
Push the fish out of the barrel and people won't have to come there to shoot them. And as a side effect you get stronger bigger fish and better fishermen to catch them. You're as bad as he is, suggesting how you want the game to work is better than anyone else view. If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough. |
Lily Shahn
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:39:00 -
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Andski wrote: does this mean I can post carebear entitlement crap with sockpuppet characters and get some bears blown up
Oh baby, You have but to ask.
We can do it together sometime! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10871
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:41:00 -
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Lily Shahn wrote:Oh baby, You have but to ask.
We can do it together sometime!
i don't think i can gank carebears in highsec when i'm playing CK2 and KSP Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
33
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Posted - 2014.07.20 11:51:00 -
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Saar Ynier wrote:Giuseppe R Raimondo wrote:a way to reduce highsec ganking is to remove the option to turn in tags and buy your security status up. Everyone knew it was a stupied idea when introduced, i am supriced its still a thing I kind of have to agree here. I have taken to sitting sometimes in Josameto and watching the same person in a Vexor over and over gank haulers, then the neutral alt warps to the wreck, scoops it and warps off. Then once he's done for the week, billions of ISK in loot up, he goes to Jan and repairs his sec ready for the next week with tags to no cost to himself... Don't get me wrong, ganking is part of this game, but since these tags were introduced there's been far more smaller entities doing it. I am actually considering creating an alt myself specifically for training drones and a Vexor and doing it myself. There's a lot of ISK to be had from it and no risk to myself.
Because maybe people want to play a pvp game instead of ratting and pve for weeks on end, whats the point paying a subscription for a mmo if your just going to play against npc's
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Mortlake
167
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Posted - 2014.07.20 12:15:00 -
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13 nonames wrote:I would like to see a harder punishment set out for hi sec gankers such as a sec limiter put in place to make it so anyone with a -6 sec may no longer get into hi sec no more criminal driving around hi security space seeing as a so call advanced society would not have wanted criminal walking the street as well as a faster response time for concord and a new sytem put in place that makes it so the concord on your grid will aggress new and old criminals not just faction police
WTS periods. |
Saar Ynier
Shadowed Industries
10
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Posted - 2014.07.20 12:23:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Saar Ynier wrote:Giuseppe R Raimondo wrote:a way to reduce highsec ganking is to remove the option to turn in tags and buy your security status up. Everyone knew it was a stupied idea when introduced, i am supriced its still a thing I kind of have to agree here. I have taken to sitting sometimes in Josameto and watching the same person in a Vexor over and over gank haulers, then the neutral alt warps to the wreck, scoops it and warps off. Then once he's done for the week, billions of ISK in loot up, he goes to Jan and repairs his sec ready for the next week with tags to no cost to himself... Don't get me wrong, ganking is part of this game, but since these tags were introduced there's been far more smaller entities doing it. I am actually considering creating an alt myself specifically for training drones and a Vexor and doing it myself. There's a lot of ISK to be had from it and no risk to myself. Because maybe people want to play a pvp game instead of ratting and pve for weeks on end, whats the point paying a subscription for a mmo if your just going to play against npc's Just because someone plays against NPCs doesnt mean they don't play or interact with others... Besides, how is shooting haulers any better than playing against NPCs most of them are untanked, APing idiots that have about as much to offer as the NPCs.
Andski wrote:Saar Ynier wrote:Then once he's done for the week, billions of ISK in loot up, he goes to Jan and repairs his sec ready for the next week with tags to no cost to himself... i didn't know tags were free They're not, but only one gank pays for them tags. One gank that nullifies the sec status loss of aver 20 ganks...
And please both of you note, I said I didnt have an issue with ganking and considering it myself, but it is far too easy to repair the sec status. |
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