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Fitness Regiment
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.20 21:31:00 -
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Ok so I was contacted by 2 members of goonwaffe recruitment the moment I posted that I had a lot of ISK. I was excited that such a large corp had interest in me and thought they saw a potential future in me.
So he "added" me to the "7 day trial" to join GoonWaffe, told me a ton of stuff about how they control nullsec and know about every fleet and that he'd protect me and fully insure my ships etc.
Then he told me that I should buy this build here:
MACHARIEL
Now after telling me around 100 times I need to buy this ASAP he told me about how he would transport the ship to nullsec with his amazing freighters. Who transport easily trillions every day.
I then did some research and he gave me coordinates to go too VFK-IV.
I found out that there is collateral on transport contracts in order to be safe, I asked him if I could put the ships price or up to 125% as collateral. He told me it would be an insult and that to join I had to trust their trusted amazing pilots.
He tried coaxing me into paying for my own scam hahah.
I then posted this: https://www.google.pl/search?client=opera&q=goons+scam&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
He immediately gave me bad standing and closed conversation.
I was very shocked, disappointed and sad to see that a huge corp like GoonsWaffe has to rely on a guy trying for DAYS to scam 4b out of a newbie.... I see the corp has hit a financial crisis, if any other members of goonswaffe care to chime in would be interesting!
This is the guy: Scammer Guy |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
756
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:28:00 -
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Congratulations, OP, you have passed the EVE IQ test.
You have, unlike many before you, actually did your research and discovered if you pay money/items to 'join' Goons, you done got scammed.
I predict a bright future for you in this game, as you have learned one of the most basic rules, which is Trust No One Except Chribba.
And you need to watch out for him, too.
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3012
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Posted - 2014.07.20 23:01:00 -
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The eve litmus test: give me all your assets and isk. The correct response: lol No. Good job. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3251
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Posted - 2014.07.20 23:16:00 -
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Better luck next time to the recruitment agent. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Fitness Regiment
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.21 05:54:00 -
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Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now. |
Raiz Nhell
Veni Vidi Vici Reloaded
357
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Posted - 2014.07.21 05:59:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now.
This is not going to end well...
Have you considered starting an Alt...
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
758
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Posted - 2014.07.21 06:40:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:..........Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Historically? Themselves, mainly.
Now all you have to do is infiltrate The Swarm, rise high in the leadership thru devious political scheming, blackmail, and goat videos, until you replace The Mittani in ancient GoonFu combat.
And then you can forget to pay the sov bill after you go on vacation.
Good luck!!!
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Winthorp
1923
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:49:00 -
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But they are usually so trust worthy, i find it hard to believe... |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1505
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Posted - 2014.07.21 11:29:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now. Hey, you're entitled to your own goons grr-ing just like anybody else, but why have a grudge towards the entire organisation?
Getting revenge on the guy who tried to scam you makes more sense, imo.
Sadly you already let a good opportunity pass. Instead of exposing him, you could've tried to drive him crazy and waste as much of his time as possible by pretending to be unsure, asking him to involve other members of his corp, etc.
You could also give money to Gevon Goblin if you want, though I doubt he's biting or even nibbling much. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Fitness Regiment
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:28:00 -
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Hah I didn't want to waste my own time, and if GoonsWaffe let's members use their Corp to get other players money, and let members pretend they have positions they don't then I want no part in it. I'd rather quit the game than join a corp that allows and even supports such behaviour.
So of course I have something against it. |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3636
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:56:00 -
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a goonwaffe scam thread... with a surprise ending! |
Fitness Regiment
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:59:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:a goonwaffe scam thread... with a surprise ending!
Glad you enjoyed it! Hah. Hope to see this guy shot down. |
Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
890
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:06:00 -
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Raiz Nhell wrote:
This is not going to end well...
Have you considered starting an Alt...
Why?
Seems it ended fine to me. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
494
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:32:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now. The only current organizations in Eve powerful enough, large enough, and strong enough to take out the Goons are listed below, in alphabetical order: CFC |
Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
66
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:54:00 -
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Congrats on not falling for the scam. You are now ahead on the Eve learning curve :) |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
794
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:22:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:I was very shocked, disappointed and sad to see that a huge corp like GoonsWaffe has to rely on a guy trying for DAYS to scam 4b out of a newbie.... I see the corp has hit a financial crisis, if any other members of goonswaffe care to chime in would be interesting! This is the guy: Scammer Guy
I would not assume that two guys running the classic Goon recruitment scam is any indication of the financial state of the Goon corp, alliance, or coillition. It is just guys trying to scam and fatten their own wallet because they can and people continually fall for it. 4 bil may seem a lot to you and costs a few plexes. However, it is chump change when the sale of one super cap or even the scam of one such sale is worth 20 times that.
Heck, I would be rent from a system or two is more than 4 bil.
By the way, announcing you have piles of isk anywhere is a good way to lose |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
228
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Posted - 2014.07.21 16:59:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now.
Don't let one guys actions sully the reputation of the whole Alliance. They are actually really awesome and if you go through the correct channels, being a member of Goonswarm has many perks. But congratulations on passing the Eve IQ test, you're smarter and wiser than most, well done. Be warned though, not all scamming recruiters are as sloppy and obvious as that guy was.
Seriously though, don't think that just because that one guy tried to scam you they are all bad.
Also their trying to scam you has nothing to do with the financial situation Goonswarm is in (which I'm pretty sure is exaggerated seeing as they do double reimbursement now). Those guys would not have put your 4 billion towards the alliance, they would have kept it. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bayonnefrog
Hedion University Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2014.07.21 17:30:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now.
N3 & Progodlegend, I believe. But I'm no expert. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
497
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Posted - 2014.07.21 17:35:00 -
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Bayonnefrog wrote:Fitness Regiment wrote:Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now. N3 & Progodlegend, I believe. But I'm no expert. N3 (and friends) have gotten the Tina Turner treatment every time they tried. So no, not so much. |
Fitness Regiment
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.07.21 20:08:00 -
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I was kinda kidding about their financial situation, and 4b is change to me too, still don't want to lose it. I got scammed 6b early on, not falling for that again.
I don't think I will be scammed any time soon, since I will not be trading or giving anything to anyone ever, only through the market for large quantities.
I hope to find a corp that I can fight with soon, surprised more goons members aren't posting here flaming or threatening me. |
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Ian Praetorius
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:25:00 -
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Fitness Regiment wrote:I was kinda kidding about their financial situation, and 4b is change to me too, still don't want to lose it. I got scammed 6b early on, not falling for that again.
I don't think I will be scammed any time soon, since I will not be trading or giving anything to anyone ever, only through the market for large quantities.
I hope to find a corp that I can fight with soon, surprised more goons members aren't posting here flaming or threatening me.
This behavior is not condoned by GSF/CFC. On behalf of Recruiterswarm, I apologize for your experience and assure you this is not our modus operandi. Those involved will be punished accordingly.
I hope you don't take away from this experience that Goons/EVE players cannot be trusted, as that approach is sure to leave you sad and space lonely until the end of your days. If you want to talk about your experience, my door is always open. |
Fitness Regiment
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:45:00 -
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Ian Praetorius wrote:Fitness Regiment wrote:I was kinda kidding about their financial situation, and 4b is change to me too, still don't want to lose it. I got scammed 6b early on, not falling for that again.
I don't think I will be scammed any time soon, since I will not be trading or giving anything to anyone ever, only through the market for large quantities.
I hope to find a corp that I can fight with soon, surprised more goons members aren't posting here flaming or threatening me. This behavior is not condoned by GSF/CFC. On behalf of Recruiterswarm, I apologize for your experience and assure you this is not our modus operandi. Those involved will be punished accordingly. I hope you don't take away from this experience that Goons/EVE players cannot be trusted, as that approach is sure to leave you sad and space lonely until the end of your days. If you want to talk about your experience, my door is always open.
Thank you a lot for your answer, my initial statements generalized my "hate" for Goons, but this was just to me being new at getting my trust crushed.
I have a trusting personality but that doesn't make me stupid, what it does sadly mean is I got rather upset finding out that the person I trusted had been trying to take advantage of me for days. I will contact you for sure when I learn more about the game and retrieve any insults towards any corporations, as I am a very new player and just don't have the knowledge to be able to make a general consensus towards any such party.
Thank you guys, and I hope the person at hand gets punished for his/her actions. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3259
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Posted - 2014.07.21 22:58:00 -
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Ian Praetorius wrote:
This behavior is not condoned by GSF/CFC. On behalf of Recruiterswarm, I apologize for your experience and assure you this is not our modus operandi. Those involved will be punished accordingly.
I hope you don't take away from this experience that Goons/EVE players cannot be trusted, as that approach is sure to leave you sad and space lonely until the end of your days. If you want to talk about your experience, my door is always open.
Don't you guys usually discuss things like this on your formal complaints server on Teamspeak? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
143
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:14:00 -
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Bayonnefrog wrote:Fitness Regiment wrote:Hah thanks guys, sadly I don't forgive or forget, so GoonsWaffe is probably going to be one of my enemies when I grow up in EVE. Any way of figuring out who their greatest enemy is?
Since any enemy of GoonsWaffe big enough to bite a chunk into them is a good friend of mine now. N3 & Progodlegend, I believe. But I'm no expert.
This had the potential to be the best troll post of 2014.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
Ian Praetorius
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:41:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Ian Praetorius wrote:
This behavior is not condoned by GSF/CFC. On behalf of Recruiterswarm, I apologize for your experience and assure you this is not our modus operandi. Those involved will be punished accordingly.
I hope you don't take away from this experience that Goons/EVE players cannot be trusted, as that approach is sure to leave you sad and space lonely until the end of your days. If you want to talk about your experience, my door is always open.
Don't you guys usually discuss things like this on your formal complaints server on Teamspeak?
We do have a special court for adjudicating these matters when the situation calls for it. |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
178
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Posted - 2014.07.22 07:11:00 -
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worth a shot lol http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
892
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Posted - 2014.07.22 13:30:00 -
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Ian Praetorius wrote: This behavior is not condoned by GSF/CFC. On behalf of Recruiterswarm, I apologize for your experience and assure you this is not our modus operandi. Those involved will be punished accordingly.
I hope you don't take away from this experience that Goons/EVE players cannot be trusted, as that approach is sure to leave you sad and space lonely until the end of your days. If you want to talk about your experience, my door is always open.
Ahem.
LOL.
LOL.
LOL.
Oh, LOL.
I like the BIG RED LETTERS on the GSF recruitment page that says " IF YOU GAVE ISK TO JOIN GOONSWARM, YOU WERE SCAMMED AND ARE **** OUT OF LUCK".
Makes you wonder why the person who made the page would include that.
You know, unless scamming was commonplace.
Which it is.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |
Heckar Ottig
Task Force Proteus Protean Concept
5
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Posted - 2014.07.22 13:31:00 -
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A Thunderwaffle member tried to do an old vouch code scam on me after I posted a thread in Recruitment forum. I thought that my long story being in Convicted and later in FA and a killboard full of NC. & Co killmails would act as a nice portfolio, but oh well, was worth a shot. Had a nice chat with that guy after exposing his scam and went on to scary warm hole spaces.
Also, do background search on each corp that offer you membership, at least check their killboard and dotlan page.
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Ian Praetorius
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2014.07.22 13:46:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Ian Praetorius wrote: This behavior is not condoned by GSF/CFC. On behalf of Recruiterswarm, I apologize for your experience and assure you this is not our modus operandi. Those involved will be punished accordingly.
I hope you don't take away from this experience that Goons/EVE players cannot be trusted, as that approach is sure to leave you sad and space lonely until the end of your days. If you want to talk about your experience, my door is always open.
Ahem. LOL. LOL. LOL. Oh, LOL. I like the BIG RED LETTERS on the GSF recruitment page that says " IF YOU GAVE ISK TO JOIN GOONSWARM, YOU WERE SCAMMED AND ARE **** OUT OF LUCK". Makes you wonder why the person who made the page would include that. You know, unless scamming was commonplace. Which it is.
That's quite the logical leap, Mr. Thule. All that means is that if you tried to bribe your way in, you're SOL. In the event any ISK changes hands as part of a legitimate offer from a Recruitment Officer/Director, it will always be returned as per the terms explained to the recruit.
This is quite a bit different from someone offering you a seat at our table in return for some paltry sum. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5689
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Posted - 2014.07.22 14:08:00 -
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As an Official Goonwaffe Recruiter I was devastated to hear that you were nearly scammed by someone claiming to be an Official Goonwaffe Recruiter. While we do have a legitimate security deposit policy it is unfortunate that some would take this as an opportunity for short-term personal gain. Please contact me as soon as possible & we shall rectify this unfortunate situation. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
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