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Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:25:00 -
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So here i am arguing with people last night saying i don't care about a 2nd account or whatever
Now i wake up today and go, HEY! i want a 2nd account
what I'm hoping is... My 2nd account, trained in Mining, just mines in the background over and over and over my Main account does exploration and missions and has fun
Hopefully both making enough for at least 1 plex a month
is this possible? do many people do this? do i need to train in just mining or need Refining and stuff swell
Whats the best way i c an make Isk on a 2nd account without really playing it
should i just mine, sell ore OR mine, refine and sell OR mine, refine, build things and sell?
or something else
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Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:34:00 -
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Usually refining gives you more ISK if you have good refining skills.
Mining as a profession is not very profitable and is generally best done as a corp activity or while you watching Netflix. Do not expect to be making a PLEX a month unless you mine nonstop. |
Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:38:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:Usually refining gives you more ISK if you have good refining skills.
Mining as a profession is not very profitable and is generally best done as a corp activity or while you watch Netflix. Do not expect to be making a PLEX a month unless you mine nonstop.
well the plan is to have the account mining non stop while i play and Explore making my 20-30 mil per relic or more and doing missions.
i guess for $9 to get an account it won't hurt to try to see how close i get, but cheers for the heads up |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
89
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:56:00 -
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Doing relics and missions you could PLEX an account. If you're doing one of these buddy account promotions it could be worthwhile, but I wouldn't run a whole account for a PLEX a month just to mine. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2203
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Posted - 2014.07.21 06:22:00 -
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Well, you won't be mining non stop, you will waste cycles, miss cargo getting full, miss rocks popping, miss local getting flashy and d-scan getting full of cats. Making any reasonable money by AFK mining is a myth. And without orca boosts mining is waste of time and pixels.
If ISK is what you are after better train your alt into sentry domi and do semi - AFK L4s with it. 1 BS rat bounty is worth few minutes of mining. Of course if you are after real ISK trading seems to be what you should looking at :) Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.07.21 06:28:00 -
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well then i might have to hold off the whole 2nd Account thing |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2203
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Posted - 2014.07.21 06:52:00 -
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If you really want it don't let me or anybody else tell you otherwise. But remember that we were in your shoes at some point and made same decisions/mistakes.
I, for example got second account when I was poor lowsec pirate 2 years ago and hisec L4s alt was my idea of getting money to continue my derping in lowsec. Now she is my linky and prober and serious BS pilot and almost maxed out miner (although still plenty to train for low/null ores) and Amarr hates her guts which is funny for RP reasons.
And recently I got 3rd account to train into mining initially so I could "swarm" (orca + 2 hulks) ice anoms or belts and crunch crunch crunch :) But in the long run he will be going into BS stuff for all four races to have same possibilities as my current alt.
You see, getting an alt is not a problem, real question is what will you do with it. If you can afford it you might just put it on endless loop of training and sooner or later skills will be good enough for... something. And you can never go wrong with max core/fitting skills. But if you want to have an alt that is capable of doing something useful and be good at it in relatively near future you need to focus a little. It doesn't have to be ultimate goal and strict plan but at least some idea of where you are going will help to get there.
I don't know if all this makes any sense to you, I just wanted to share my... well, not even opinions but rather feelings on subjects of alts and my experience with having few accounts. Others might agree or not, some people have just account dedicated for cyno alts and that's all the purpose an account has. Some train their alts into fully grown mains. Approach varies from person to person, you will need to find your own answers and ways around this whole alt thing. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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voetius
BITB Support Services
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:09:00 -
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My opinion would be to take up trading. I'm not going to write a huge wall of text about trading as it really isn't a subject that you can cover in any short amount of time but there are some general methods that come up often:
Station trading : sit in a hub like Jita or Amarr, set buy orders, get stuff, make sell orders
Inter-hub : Buy at Jita, sell at other hubs
Inter-regional trading : buy in a hub, truck off to somewhere else, e.g. mission hubs or mining systems, sell stuff
There are all sorts of variants on the above and you can mix and match depending on what you prefer. You don't need to haul stuff yourself, get Red Frog or Push Industries to move stuff for you.
It can be as time consuming or as laid back as you like.
If that sounds worth investigating, spend some time reading the stickies in Market Discussions and read all the 'new to trading, need some advice' posts. Read the Evelopedia articles and some of the blogs. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4148
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:49:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Well, you won't be mining non stop, you will waste cycles, miss cargo getting full, miss rocks popping, miss local getting flashy and d-scan getting full of cats. Making any reasonable money by AFK mining is a myth. And without orca boosts mining is waste of time and pixels.
This.
If you think that mining consists off locking and engaging your lasers and be done with it....good luck.
What Schmata said will happen and your yield will suck, if you survive long enough to notice.
The golden rule about a 2nd / 3rd / "x"th account:
If you have no idea what you are going to do with it, you don't need it. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
554
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:59:00 -
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1 hour doing l4 security will net you more then entire day of maxed skilled solo mining. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
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Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:49:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:1 hour doing l4 security will net you more then entire day of maxed skilled solo mining.
I really want that Hood!, 'm guessing it's real money and that makes me sad :( |
Iraga en Quiria
en Quiria Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:56:00 -
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Nope, the hood is an Amarr only feature. Free of charge. |
Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:58:00 -
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Iraga en Quiria wrote:Nope, the hood is an Amarr only feature. Free of charge. oooooo how do i get it!? |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2209
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Posted - 2014.07.21 11:15:00 -
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I'm not sure hood is worth of being Amarr scum. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4148
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Posted - 2014.07.21 11:26:00 -
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Spicy McGee wrote:Iraga en Quiria wrote:Nope, the hood is an Amarr only feature. Free of charge. oooooo how do i get it!?
simple,
Pick an Amarr character and you can use it when create a character. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Archibald Thistlewaite III
491
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Posted - 2014.07.21 11:33:00 -
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To add to the above. There are different 'tucking' options with the hood so you can have it down, up or the pull down over the eyes option. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3032
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:00:00 -
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Real amarr scum are unsettling without a hoodie.
Keep your scanning toon as is, use the other for an assault frigate and go bear flipping "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:06:00 -
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But i am amarr and i cant see it anywhere
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
171
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:15:00 -
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Depending on how long and what you are mining I think you will have a job to PLEX two or even just one account with one unsupported miner. It's going to be a real drag plus with the current ISK prices for PLEX it may not even be possible to PLEX one account. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3033
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:50:00 -
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Spicy McGee wrote:But i am amarr and i cant see it anywhere
It's funny reading this after you found it. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2222
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:54:00 -
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It funny reading what you wrote Ralph and go WTF? and then ctrl+F5 and all is clear. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4150
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Posted - 2014.07.21 19:28:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Spicy McGee wrote:But i am amarr and i cant see it anywhere
It's funny reading this after you found it .
Yeah, maybe he should pull up the hood a little bit more so it doesn't cover his eyes Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:18:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Spicy McGee wrote:But i am amarr and i cant see it anywhere
It's funny reading this after you found it . Yeah, maybe he should pull up the hood a little bit more so it doesn't cover his eyes How dare you make fun of my hood :p |
Areen Sassel
12
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Posted - 2014.07.22 09:58:00 -
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Spicy McGee wrote:Whats the best way i c an make Isk on a 2nd account without really playing it
Bluntly, you can't.
Suppose there's a way to easily fund a PLEX with minimal effort? Why isn't everyone doing it - dropping the value of whatever it produces, or using up the supply of whatever it consumes, until it's not readily profitable?
(Of course, that's not true if there's a high barrier to entry, such as masses of capital, masses of skills, or exceptional technique. But that's not really compatible with "I'd just like to start doing this thing").
If you mine 2 PLEX a month it'll be like a second job; you'd be better off putting in time at a first job... especially because the real money cost of PLEX is not escalating dramatically like the ISK price is. |
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