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LazyDeer
Strategic Industries INC. Unknown Destination
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:43:00 -
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I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around? |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
357
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:48:00 -
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Something something bot aspirancy something something. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
3387
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:51:00 -
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I think it's simple. Autopiloting provides: 1. A long period of time where your ship is slowboating from a warp-in point to a gate 2. At the same time, the player is likely not completely attentive
1 and 2 provide a circumstance where massive damage can be dealt uncontested in a short amount of time.
Now, can you tell me why this is relevant for hisec? .. when everything else is gone .. |
Dhaq
Anonymous Posters
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:51:00 -
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They aren't mad. They are actually happy because it gives them easy targets.
You see the dirt flinging start when someone actually complains about being killed while auto-piloting. On that note, you better put on your flame retardant jacket.
Possibly inb4? |
LazyDeer
Strategic Industries INC. Unknown Destination
7
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:56:00 -
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So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8051
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Posted - 2014.07.21 03:59:00 -
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In some ways, I love autopilot. It's basically a free shot at you, since you have abdicated your own self defense. On the other hand, I despise the entitlement mentality that it represents.
Both are excellent reasons to kill someone for autopiloting. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
648
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:00:00 -
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I think the word you are looking for is
excuse. |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:01:00 -
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I would think much of the EVE community would welcome such targets. The people who criticize probably just want to make themselves feel superior to foolish autopilots.
But, even vets will autopilot sometimes when they're flying a shuttle or cheap ship and want to take out the trash or make dinner or whatever.
In the end, do what you want as long as you can accept the consequences and don't give two craps about bullies. |
General Nusense
Not Posting With My Main
185
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:01:00 -
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I personally dont hate people that auto pilot. I just hate the "make ap goto zero" threads that pop up every two months or so. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12447
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:05:00 -
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Seems the thrasher pilot got mad because your shuttle wasn't full of this seasons fabulous clothing lines. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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LazyDeer
Strategic Industries INC. Unknown Destination
7
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:06:00 -
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See I have no problem with dieing because I auto piloted. None doesn't hurt me at all, just so confused as to why I'm the bad due to auto piloting and is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8051
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:14:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote: is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?
It's called "bot aspirancy". "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Spicy McGee
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:24:00 -
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I auto pilot around Hi-sec if i need to pee or do something But with the expectation that i may die and it's my own fault |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:38:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? With what? His pod?
He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
LazyDeer
Strategic Industries INC. Unknown Destination
7
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:45:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? With what? His pod? He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle. Mr Epeen
I like. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
551
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:51:00 -
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that seems like a strange reason to kill someone. That said I usually don't use it as it seems like a decent way to get killed, and is inefficient. but I think this is the first time I've heard of people hating on people just for using AP. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:52:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?
First of all, the guy who killed you did teach you a valuable lesson: don't autopilot. On the other hand, he was a bit of a knob if he thinks a dead shuttle is butthurt-worthy. Ganking a shuttle is easy, and even easier in a Thrasher.
I don't think anyone hates you for autopiloting, unless they do in which case they have bigger problems than anything that happens in EVE. The reasons I kill things on autopilot, and why you shouldn't autopilot are twofold: 1. it makes you easy to kill, and 2. it's a bad habit to get into, especially in a single-shard game like EVE when there are players everywhere, to not take full, 100% manual control of anything you're flying when you're undocked, and I do like to teach people not to by virtue of showing them the direct consequences.
Autopiloting/AFKing, while it gives you certain benefits (ie you don't have to do anything) is also the riskiest behaviour to take in this game. As long as you understand this risk, then you understand that you choose to take this risk at your own peril. If you die while AKF or on autopilot, and If you DO get butthurt over it, then you must understand that you brought it on yourself. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1237
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:53:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of? The whole point of killing your shuttle was to get to your pod. The smacktalking mail afterwards is just an attempt to convince you, and maybe even himself, that he somehow won after failing to do so. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12371
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Posted - 2014.07.21 05:22:00 -
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Here's an idea... AP turns off if scrambled. Another hobby for griefers to just aggro and scram AP freighters to make them stop...
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
892
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Posted - 2014.07.21 05:23:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:See I have no problem with dieing because I auto piloted. None doesn't hurt me at all, just so confused as to why I'm the bad one due to auto piloting and is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?
Underlined the relevant bit there. Every bully claims provocation. Every mugger, every beloved leader would like to be the good guy reacting reasonably to an offence that cannot be forgiven. Just get out of hisec, soon as possible.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
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Posted - 2014.07.21 05:29:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?
I think you may not see the opportunity as it presents itself. He didn't just blow up a worthless shuttle. He "gave" you a nice little killright with which you can use to hunt him and have some fun.
Set him to red, add him to your watchlist, use a locator agent, and boom goes the dynamite. All in that order.
. They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
274
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Posted - 2014.07.21 06:25:00 -
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So a dude spends his time in h-sec shooting shuttles, launches some BS about autopiloting to "explain" himself and you're the one bad at EVE?
Times change. But since you bought it, guess he was right. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
294
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Posted - 2014.07.21 07:26:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? With what? His pod? He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle. Mr Epeen The Thrasher can be fit for fast lock and will one-volley a shuttle. It is therefore more than possible to pop the pod as well before CONCORD arrives on scene. There are pilots who pipe-stalk between Incursion focuses with the express intent of popping high value pods.
Not that I used to treat shuttles as abalative armour for my pod in that manner... and now use a Jag. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
991
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Posted - 2014.07.21 07:50:00 -
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It's called rationalisation.
They want easy kills but sort of feel all bad about it so the anti AP role play thing lets them kill you without getting the guilts. |
Arknos III
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.21 07:52:00 -
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There are probably a few people out there that actually think auto-piloting is wrong. For the most part though, I think the hate is applied towards people who think they have the right to autopilot in peace.
If you are auto-piloting because :effort: and you fully accept that you should be able to be shot down, I don't think anyone will hate you for it. If they do, then they are hating someone for playing a video game in a manner in which they prefer, which makes them anti-sandbox and therefore non-relevant. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8053
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Posted - 2014.07.21 07:58:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:It's called rationalisation.
They want easy kills but sort of feel all bad about it so the anti AP role play thing lets them kill you without getting the guilts.
I assure you, neither I nor anyone I know "feel bad" about blowing up people in a videogame. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Gorinia Sanford
Big n Large
64
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:00:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?
Mainly because you're not (according to them) playing the sandbox correctly and they're behavior controlists at heart. You know, kind of like the anti-smoking ***** of yesteryear. |
Gorinia Sanford
Big n Large
64
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:04:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Seems the thrasher pilot got mad because your shuttle wasn't full of this seasons fabulous clothing lines.
Or PLEX. Can carry quite a bit of those, even on a shuttle. |
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
313
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:04:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Seems the thrasher pilot got mad because your shuttle wasn't full of this seasons fabulous clothing lines.
Among which was the most exquisite item fashioned by CCP, the monocle. I do envy the capsuleer who now has the opportunity of joining the most exquisite and exclusive club in New Eden. I did hear that their hauler nearly met a very unfortunate end. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23211
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:05:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around? Where in any of that was hate against autopiloting expressed?
No-one hates others for autopiloting. At most, some get annoyed when people who get killed while autopiloting come to the forum and complain and start demanding that their non-playing be made more safe. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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