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Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:08:00 -
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Since it has been a little while since CCP Foxfour removed the NPC kill data would we be able to get an update from CCP how WH space is going in regards to PVP and PVE.
Has the amount of ships lost with a sleeper on the KM increased or decreased?
Has the amount of sleeper sites being run increased or decreased?
Has the amount of people active in Wh's increased or decreased since its removal?
I'm sure i can think of a few more questions TBH but will CCP hide behind breaking immersion or give us some facts from their changes?
Summoning Corbex.... |
Jezza McWaffle
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:19:00 -
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Guarantee you more people are farming and less people are dying since these changes, but after all I guess thats working as intended. C6 Wormhole blog http://holelotofwaffle.wordpress.com/ |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:28:00 -
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Jezza McWaffle wrote:Guarantee you more people are farming and less people are dying since these changes, but after all I guess thats working as intended.
I do think that will be the case, more interested in if its resulted in more people settling in WH space or leaving Wh space. |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:29:00 -
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I smell lots of buthurt. |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:36:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:I smell lots of buthurt.
Not really but buy me a few drinks princess and we can work yours over. |
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:21:00 -
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With lots of people being temporarily inactive because of summer I think it's probably too early to tell.
If the impact of the API's removal had been as huge as many people feared I'd expected a significant drop of kills in WH-Space and rapidly plummeting nanoribbon prices. However, looking at killboards and markets that doesn't seem to have happened.
Having said that, maybe wormholers have yet to be burned out by actually scouting their chains and the nullsec carebears are still in the process of setting up their farming operations
My hope is that CCP will change the discovery scanner mechanics rather sooner than later, so we might never know :> |
Janeway84
Masters Of Destiny Pride Before Fall
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:24:00 -
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more kills on subcaps maybe, feels like i get more fishies caught lately |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:39:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Since it has been a little while since CCP Foxfour removed the NPC kill data would we be able to get an update from CCP how WH space is going in regards to PVP and PVE. Has the amount of ships lost with a sleeper on the KM increased or decreased? Has the amount of sleeper sites being run increased or decreased? Has the amount of people active in Wh's increased or decreased since its removal? I'm sure i can think of a few more questions TBH but will CCP hide behind breaking immersion or give us some facts from their changes? Summoning Corbexx....
I could probably find out, probably won't be able to tell you (which sucks as it only causes people to worry or keep asking the same stuff).
Failing that i guess I could go count caps killed on eve kill before and after, maybe compare it to last year as well (although I'm pretty busy with testing at the moment)
Ab'del Abu wrote:With lots of people being temporarily inactive because of summer I think it's probably too early to tell.
You could compare it to this time last year so summer time probably isn't a issue. Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:50:00 -
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corbexx wrote:I could probably find out, probably won't be able to tell you (which sucks as it only causes people to worry or keep asking the same stuff).
Failing that i guess I could go count caps killed on eve kill before and after, maybe compare it to last year as well (although I'm pretty busy with testing at the moment) .
Fair enough, in all honesty i didnt expect i would ever get a CCP dev coming back with stats to show anything (We have asked way too many times to ever expect that). Was more curious to the affected change to Wh space after they removed it, and well TBH if anyone has bothered to even look at CCP and not just seen it as another job done and on to the next thing. |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
446
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:55:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:corbexx wrote:I could probably find out, probably won't be able to tell you (which sucks as it only causes people to worry or keep asking the same stuff).
Failing that i guess I could go count caps killed on eve kill before and after, maybe compare it to last year as well (although I'm pretty busy with testing at the moment) . Fair enough, in all honesty i didnt expect i would ever get a CCP dev coming back with stats to show anything (We have asked way too many times to ever expect that). Was more curious to the affected change to Wh space after they removed it, and well TBH if anyone has bothered to even look at CCP and not just seen it as another job done and on to the next thing.
Stuff is still being looked at so don't worry there. Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
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Posted - 2014.07.21 11:08:00 -
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corbexx wrote:Ab'del Abu wrote:With lots of people being temporarily inactive because of summer I think it's probably too early to tell.
You could compare it to this time last year so summer time probably isn't a issue.
Well you could do that, but to get a somewhat reliable statement on this matter you'll need a more complex statistical model and a lot more data than 1,5 months of "not a lot happening anyway".
Case and point: Even though BU and QEx were busy trying to evict people in June they still managed to kill plenty escalation farmers. While I personally doubted that the removal of the API would change things significantly and above observation would very much indicate such, unfortunately, it doesn't prove anything -.- |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
449
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:00:00 -
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Hopefully will try and get some info later on it but as others have said not sure just how useful it will be.
I will say CCP Fozzie has sorted some amazing graph **** out for w-space a month or so ago which shows some really interesting stuff.
Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
Winthorp
1926
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:34:00 -
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corbexx wrote:Hopefully will try and get some info later on it but as others have said not sure just how useful it will be.
I will say CCP Fozzie has sorted some amazing graph **** out for w-space a month or so ago which shows some really interesting stuff.
If only we ever got to see it, but immersion is important as **** you know... |
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:00:00 -
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I know that my heart was racing when I did a d-scan with the loot table enabled by accident. Nothing quite like seeing the results table explode to stop you dead in your tracks.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015 T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346 LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing
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Hatshepsut IV
Cascading Failure Un.Bound
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:48:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:I smell lots of buthurt.
Since our usual greeter is on hiatus allow me to present your esteemed NPC alt with a complimentary bag'o'dicks. You too can start failing today! Reddit-áad | Cascading Failure Public Channel | Aspiring Failure
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calaretu
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.07.21 15:09:00 -
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You could do a capital per subcapital killratio per week or month for the last two years. Coupled with the actual killnumbers it should show some indication of activity level that was representable. ~Bringer of happiness
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ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1540
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Posted - 2014.07.21 16:29:00 -
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As this request continues to be seen as a concern, may I recommend that in conjunction with your request on the forums that you submit a "support ticket" regarding this request. As always, it is great to see support by your CSM members, and I've taken the liberty of forwarding this request as well.
This doesn't mean that you will achieve your desired outcome, and patience is requested in working or communicating with CCP staff and volunteers. I ask that as you guys and girls discuss this topic, that you continue to do so in a respectful manner and keep the atmosphere conducive to a healthy sub-forum. Thank you. ISD Cyberdyne Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.07.21 16:53:00 -
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ISD Cyberdyne wrote:As this request continues to be seen as a concern, may I recommend that in conjunction with your request on the forums that you submit a "support ticket" regarding this request. As always, it is great to see support by your CSM members, and I've taken the liberty of forwarding this request as well.
This doesn't mean that you will achieve your desired outcome, and patience is requested in working or communicating with CCP staff and volunteers. I ask that as you guys and girls discuss this topic, that you continue to do so in a respectful manner and keep the atmosphere conducive to a healthy sub-forum. Thank you.
ISD of our hearts, unlike those other ones who just lock all the fun threads... Would you like to stop by the Dusette tower any time soon? I just happen to know the password If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
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Posted - 2014.07.21 19:12:00 -
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Corbexx, you just make sure every dev at CCP understands the "moral" of the major j-space groups and longterm players. Maybe those magic graphs show something else but what I get from every source is "CCP kinda hates us/lets us down". Would be really nice if they took the time to throw us a bone (wormholespawn f.e.). Instead of just love for nullbears and c4+ bears.
Last CSM used every opportunity to remind CCP how important a POS/role rework is for us, now we hopefully get it next year... |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
472
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Posted - 2014.07.21 20:47:00 -
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corbexx wrote:Hopefully will try and get some info later on it but as others have said not sure just how useful it will be.
I will say CCP Fozzie has sorted some amazing graph **** out for w-space a month or so ago which shows some really interesting stuff. Even if you can't share the graph or its results, any chance you could give us some hints on the labels on the axes of said graphs? :) |
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.07.21 22:44:00 -
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Youre asking for stats that are always NDA covered. Personally, I highly doubt there are more poeple running sites but there may be less kills since BU folded since they aparently dont like to actually scout.
The changes make zero difference to people wanting to run sites. No one that wasnt running sites before is going to suddenly go 'oh I should run sites now!'. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:16:00 -
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Meytal wrote:corbexx wrote:Hopefully will try and get some info later on it but as others have said not sure just how useful it will be.
I will say CCP Fozzie has sorted some amazing graph **** out for w-space a month or so ago which shows some really interesting stuff. Even if you can't share the graph or its results, any chance you could give us some hints on the labels on the axes of said graphs? :)
I'll ask to see if they can post something. But keep in mind that a) alot are still on holiday and b) cruis coming out tomorrow alot will be busy making sure that runs smoothly. Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
Winthorp
1927
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:47:00 -
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I agree Jack that it may be NDA'd but in the past year CCP has used a lot more statistics and graphs with a lot more information then we have been used to. The only area of eve they have been hesitant to give statistics is WH space and only due to their perceived issue with immersion.
I can only recall ever seeing one graph with statistics on it about WH space and it was requested and released by Two Step. Im hopeful since its CCP making the dramatic changes they did based on information only they have that they will share with us how that information has changed now. Yes maybe a little too hopeful i know but The worst that can happen is they say no to Corbexx. |
Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:47:00 -
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Not supporting or advocating the change in this post
However this metric taken at this time would have incredibly skewed data considering the summer lull that wormhole pvp entities tends to go through. Especially considering the incredible european summer this year. |
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2014.07.22 02:21:00 -
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blobbers are gonna cry
#wait til cap escalations get nerfed #no more unlimited NPC buy orders for blue loot
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Winthorp
1928
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:11:00 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:blobbers are gonna cry
#wait til cap escalations get nerfed #no more unlimited NPC buy orders for blue loot
I just moved to a C4/4. I can't wait to roll in and RF your pos. |
Alundil
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.22 04:44:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Adriana Nolen wrote:blobbers are gonna cry
#wait til cap escalations get nerfed #no more unlimited NPC buy orders for blue loot
I just moved to a C4/4. I can't wait to roll in and RF your pos. Sounds fun. You have my slightly phallic-shaped fun mobile
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