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Whittorical Quandary
The Asteroid is Depleted Cucarachas Enojadas
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Posted - 2014.07.23 05:29:00 -
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There was an update. The servers restarted at the time that was specified. The servers are still running. The servers aren't crashing. No game ruining exploit so far.
And... the servers are still running...
\o/ Wooooh!!! First mmo i've been in that has ever achieved this!!!! :) A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1000
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Posted - 2014.07.23 05:46:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Zinther Del'Ara wrote:DaReaper wrote: Sigh....
you do realize that eve was made in 2000... and that when it was released in 2003 the tred was for more GHZ. So most if not all of ccp's old code was written to be optimized for single core more ghz units. Then someone got this brillat idea to add more cores to a processor. So CCP's code could not scale. But CCP kept plowing ahead, and made more single core code. Eventually they went 'yea we have to fix this' which is where we are. Changing the industry features is not about milking it for all its worth. Its abut removing old single core code and going to multicore. Also, the way things worked back in 2003 which was the last time industry was looked out, are out dated and old. And some of the reasoning for doing things a certin way no longer make sense/are invalid. So they decided to change it.
If the game doesn't evolve it dies. In order to evolve things needs to change. My guess is, a lot of stuff people are laughing at as lame now will actually tie into the bigger picture once all the pecies are in place. But we will see. If they are working towards a single huge goal, then all the little pieces won't make sense till they are all done.
Wat? How does industry being dumbed down have anything to with how many cores my cpu has? Only thing this patch has boosted is the few big alliances wallets. As they say in the south... "oh bless your heart." your cpu has squat to do with it, the games server cpu however... Each piece of changed code makes the game function better. people ***** about TiDi and then whine that they wasted time dealing with industry, but if industry can now use more then one core then it will boost performance across the board. Thus less tidi. Nothing was dumbed down, things were made less clicky and annoying. Thats a benefit. My wrist thank ccp.
Where do they talk about the new industry interface using a different core ? |
Quit Whining
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.23 05:56:00 -
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OK, So it looks like the show info tab on Blueprints is a little boned, it doesn't take into account any ME/TE reductions, so my initial concern was remedied when actually test-installing an Erebus BPC as a job, parts required drop to the same as before. Panic over....unless you don't like having to pay 2B to install the job :) |
Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:27:00 -
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Daler Farmon wrote:lets rename this patch name and call it crYus))..
Personally I vote for Crapus.
I understand what CCP was trying to do, and yes I even support it, but this is poorly executed except for the new UI. Well the industry one at least, the new UI for module reprocessing looks cool but fails in that you have to mouse over each spot rather than seeing everything in one glance.
I am waiting for the next survey, and the devs are not going to like my response.
50 runs of Scourge Cruise missile, twice the time and a %1500 increase in install cost. This is not an improvement!
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1982
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:10:00 -
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+1 for Spreadsheets update.
EvE needs a Jesus feature. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:33:00 -
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Crius is the culmination of EVE economy changes that I've campaigned for for the last couple of years or so. As such, I feel entirely vindicated in my arguments, and I am confident that these balance changes will result in a better game for those who want to play EVE as an open world competitive PvP-based sandbox experience.
Secondarily, the tear harvest reaped from a demographic of the playerbase, blind to the privilege it has fattened on, obscene in the level of its entitlement, openly contemptuous in their demands to have and retain every possible advantage, has been both highly entertaining and extremely gratifying. I entreat these people to continue making their posts, because this kind of entertainment is both priceless and free.
I passionately hope that Crius represents CCP's acceptance that giving EVE players the easy answers they say they want is to deprive them of the challange and dynamism that they actually need. I can only hope that they carry forward and apply this insight to the upcoming power-projection rebalance. And Sov. And Local. And PvE.
Meanwhile I've liquidated or long term invested most of my assets and dropped both my subscriptions. This has been the best summer in years and I'm going to spend as much as possible of it down at the beach, cycling, BBQing and getting a decent tan for the first time in a damb decade. I greatly look forward to returning to a much improved, more challenging, more dynamic EVE this winter.
If that means an EVE without those people who never wanted to play it in the first place but were just waiting for their WoW-in-Space messiah to come along, then amen, praise God and pass the ammunition.
O God, I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite spaceGÇöwere it not that I have bad dreams.
Love and kisses, you Kings of Infinite Space
Malcanis. |
Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:59:00 -
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This is ccp bravest or most stupid 'expansion' ever. Only time will tell. We all know most eve players are in high sec and have no interest in going into low/null sec except by navigation errors. This expansion reduces their income stream massively, be they mission whores, miners or industrialists. Hopefully ccp have not miscalculated and they will move out of high sec rather then unsub. Truly I would hate for eve to die, but I do know of 2 long term players who claim they wont resub, they just cant be arsed as their income streams have been decimated. |
Amseln deBrabant
Ochsenbruegger
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Posted - 2014.07.23 09:01:00 -
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thanks CCP. WAAAAAAY less clicking, my normal business time (industry, PI) just has halved. And all this time won by no longer stupid clicking same buttoms over and over....good change from UI-perspective. What it all brings to the market? i dont know, but a lil change here and there is always good in a game i assume. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.23 09:33:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Players Online <30k. In a day when important mini expansion go live! 35k, actually, and that's accounting for the fact that patch days generally see lower populations (people are busy updating, don't'cha'know, or waiting to see if there are any game-breaking bugs before committing to a 1GB download), and for the fact that Tuesdays generally are low-pop days to begin with.
Going by recent trends, it's up nearly 1k users from where one might expect it to be.
Gargep Farrow wrote:I am waiting for the next survey, and the devs are not going to like my response.
50 runs of Scourge Cruise missile, twice the time and a %1500 increase in install cost. This is not an improvement!
How so? And what does one have to do with the other? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:41:00 -
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Len Ross wrote:Well I've been playing it for a couple of hours and came to this conclusion
CCP has bowed to the null sec cartels and gankers and with this industry patch pretty much told us hi sec dwellers to go sit on a pole.
roll on elite 4
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Len Ross
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:27:00 -
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Thank you Kind sir.
Well I slept on it and the bitterness hasn't gone away. Gankers in hi sec circumventing rules with -10 payers ganking docking rinse repeat. People continually being told to HTFU when they complain. Hi sec cartels running the show. Being told I HAVE to PVP or go into null sec. Plex prices making it hard to sub. Plex becoming the main way of playing now. Have to buy to fund PVP My style of play has been taken away and I am told not to complain. Its for the better, Yeah better for the null sec cartels.
Eve is no fun anymore. My stuff has been given away Check doom whatever corp. In 24 hours this is bio massed Ill let my sub expire and I wont even check the forums. Time to move on.
Its been a wild 4 years Most of which I have enjoyed. Farewell my eve buddies even the ones I disagreed with wishing you all the best.
BTW check my post history. I don't often complain. This isn't a rage quit, its quitting cos it isn't fun anymore, Fun is what I pay for. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:28:00 -
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Len Ross wrote:Thank you Kind sir.
Well I slept on it and the bitterness hasn't gone away. Gankers in hi sec circumventing rules with -10 payers ganking docking rinse repeat. People continually being told to HTFU when they complain. Hi sec cartels running the show. Being told I HAVE to PVP or go into null sec. Plex prices making it hard to sub. Plex becoming the main way of playing now. Have to buy to fund PVP My style of play has been taken away and I am told not to complain. Its for the better, Yeah better for the null sec cartels.
Eve is no fun anymore. My stuff has been given away Check doom whatever corp. In 24 hours this is bio massed Ill let my sub expire and I wont even check the forums. Time to move on.
Its been a wild 4 years Most of which I have enjoyed. Farewell my eve buddies even the ones I disagreed with wishing you all the best.
Off to pay that -ú100 to Mr Braben to play the BETA of his game where you can crash into asteroids for hours? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
667
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:29:00 -
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Norrin Ellis wrote:Training industry skills to get 100% refining / reprocessing only to have it taken away seems like a punch in the gut.
Yet if CCP don't make changes and shake things up this game becomes stale and boring. Just look at sov/null right now... -// Public Fleets: http://fleet-up.com/Operation/Public //- |
Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:56:00 -
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Len Ross wrote: Gankers already rubbing their hands together waiting to attack POS's for the chance of someone putting in a BPO for research or manufacture.
When did gankers become a term used to cover any general aggression in highsec? |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:57:00 -
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Len Ross wrote:Thank you Kind sir.
Well I slept on it and the bitterness hasn't gone away. Gankers in hi sec circumventing rules with -10 payers ganking docking rinse repeat. People continually being told to HTFU when they complain. Hi sec cartels running the show. Being told I HAVE to PVP or go into null sec. Plex prices making it hard to sub. Plex becoming the main way of playing now. Have to buy to fund PVP My style of play has been taken away and I am told not to complain. Its for the better, Yeah better for the null sec cartels.
Eve is no fun anymore. My stuff has been given away Check doom whatever corp. In 24 hours this is bio massed Ill let my sub expire and I wont even check the forums. Time to move on.
Its been a wild 4 years Most of which I have enjoyed. Farewell my eve buddies even the ones I disagreed with wishing you all the best.
BTW check my post history. I don't often complain. This isn't a rage quit, its quitting cos it isn't fun anymore, Fun is what I pay for.
Len Ross wrote: Hi sec cartels running the show.
This is a new one. |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
265
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:12:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Len Ross wrote:3 years of grinding station in every faction to get 100% all taken away with a patch. Ridiculous manufacturing costs in low and hi sec. Ridiculous BP research prices and nerfed bps. Gankers already rubbing their hands together waiting to attack POS's for the chance of someone putting in a BPO for research or manufacture.
Having to grind grind grind to get less isk than Hi sec industry used to pay. No I will not buy plexes to fund PVP gameplay I see that is the target here.
Null sec seems to have had a buff and none of this affects them. Only hurts us industrialists in HI sec.
Why do I have to be forced to go to null sec? I have no interest in null sec.
I stand by what I said Null sec needs a buff. Clearly you have never lived there, they should not need to import crap from HS.
I never understood this point. Traffic between null and high sec creates content because it leads to conflict. If Null was self sufficient, then there would naturally be less traffic through low to high sec which in turns means less conflict. Moreover, lowsec is especially dependent upon the traffic to and from null for its content. If null was suddenly self sufficient it would be a knee capping to low sec, which really needs more help then null.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
1474
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:26:00 -
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i made 6b yesterday. so far, i love it GRRR Goons |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1376
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:36:00 -
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Len Ross wrote:No appreciation here. 52% refine from 100% which took months of training and grind. Retrievers costing 37 mill to build that are on the market for 27 All scaling's are at 10% EVERYWHERE!! Ive looked in hi/low sec. Bet its awesome in null.
Feels like I've had a solid kick in the slabs.
Slick interface but unfortunately I'm bowing out of the mining/industry business after 4 years. Don't say yay for a new PVP player, the cost ships will become will make it impossible to replace. And no I will NOT buy plexes
Entitled thempark carebears are crying like babies. Their lack of knowledge on sandbox mmo-rpg's is staggering. Please never change. The Tears Must Flow |
Serptimis
Boob Heads Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.07.23 18:11:00 -
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Pheusia wrote:Crius is the culmination of EVE economy changes that I've campaigned for for the last couple of years or so...
Meanwhile I've liquidated or long term invested most of my assets and dropped both my subscriptions. so, in a nutshell..get hazed EVE players? |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
340
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Posted - 2014.07.23 18:20:00 -
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Null sec seems to be the place, the hott spot, the juice box, the upskirt , and the top shot. So some will either die out or head to the dreaded 0.0. what will the future hold? |
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
120
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Posted - 2014.07.23 18:39:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Null sec seems to be the place, the hott spot, the juice box, the upskirt , and the top shot. So some will either die out or head to the dreaded 0.0. what will the future hold?
Hi-sec still retains major advantages for all forms of science and industry. Many hundreds of free invulnerable stations that you can't be locked out of, for one. CONCORD protection for another. Open market hubs for a third.
It's just that the advantages are now not wholly one-sided and overwhelmingly in hi-sec's favour.
In a few weeks the tears will dry up (shame - I'm really enjoying them), the noise will die down and for the large majority of players life will go on much as before, except with with much nicer S&I interface and no more 60-day waiting times for research slots. |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
120
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:13:00 -
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Serptimis wrote:Pheusia wrote:Crius is the culmination of EVE economy changes that I've campaigned for for the last couple of years or so...
Meanwhile I've liquidated or long term invested most of my assets and dropped both my subscriptions. so, in a nutshell..get hazed EVE players?
Yeah pretty much. Gonna be some stormy seas for a while so I've docked up and opened a bottle of rum, so to speak.
Well, literally, actually. Rum is delicious!
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